coolkirb said:
Super Toast said:
Certain people (read: idiots) in my country refer to anything they don't like as "Un-Australian"
Yeah but isnt Australia a fairly xenophobic country?
Unfortunately I don't have a link but I know that there was a study published relatively recently that said that Australia was actually one of the lest racist/xenophobic countries, and I think that if you look at our immigration and asylum programs, they're among the most generous in the entire world on a percentage basis. I think the reason why Australia gets a bad rap is because Australian racists are usually a lot more shameless than say, American racists, who're more likely to pay lip service to equality while they're out in public but then in the privacy of their own homes will talk about the blacks and Mexicans ruining the country, and so on.
SuperVegas said:
Thats a statement that kinda gets thrown around a lot.
Theres a few issues with that, Australia is a fairly big place, and distance between areas is absolutely massive.
I live in Melbourne, i hear up north (and i don't mean to offend) that Queensland has a bit of reputation for that kind of more closed off sort of mentality (I wouldn't know first hand, just a stereotype)
Here in Melbourne, it is an absolute massive mixed bag of nationality, and despite all the jokes we make (because that's Australian!) I think we do a pretty awesome job at getting along.
We're just a whole lot less PC about it.
For example, i come from a Greek background (first generation here). At first during primary school and the like, i was teased for it and used to get really angry. I found once i stopped getting angry that i wasn't really getting teased for it, that people were just fucking around.
I eventually joined in throwing inaccurate and wild racial slurs to my 'attackers' with a smile on my face, and found that that was the cure for it all.
Any other Melbourne guys/Australians have any thoughts on that?
Rather than a state vs. state problem, I very much believe that racism is a city vs. country problem. Brisbane is less racist than Sydney, for example (and again I'm real sorry that I don't have the study on me), but I think it's because Queensland is the only state in the country where people who live in the capital city don't outnumber the rest of the state that the whole state is perceived as being backwards and redneck. It's also easier in Queensland to pass discriminatory laws because Queensland's parliament has no upper house and rural Queensland is overrepresented.
But anyway, back to the OP, I have heard un-Australian being used a lot and in a similar way as un-American, and I don't remember ever noticing another country using un-[X country] in the same way.
Un-Australian makes a lot less sense than un-American too if you ask me, America has such a strong culture of liberty that it's pretty understandable that when someone says X law is "un-American" it almost always refers to a law passed that curtails civil liberties. Un-Australian on the other hand can mean absolutely anything anyone wants it to because Australia's culture is a lot harder to define.