The Atrocities of Your National Heritage... This is a Fun Thread! :D

[Griffolion]

I'm British, where do I begin..?

Oh well, it all boils down to humans being humans. Doing under/in the name of a flag/nation is only to be expected.

 

[Karelwolfpup]

What did Scotland ever do wrong? Yeah, we took part in England's shenanigans but I can't think of anything we did on our own. Anyone care to enlighten me?

murdering the Picts? seriously, can anyone claim to be a Pict today? being balls deep in the slave trade harder than anyone else? then again, the slave trade bit caused Adam Smith to write "Wealth of Nations" and helped the eventual banning of the slave trade. but at least you had fun getting to rape, murder, enslave, steal and generally do those things everyone else did as part of an empire ^w^

 

[ArbelaeZ]

COCAINE, SO MUCH COCAINE!!!

 

[Rikomag132]

Well, I'm no expert on our history, but I think the whole raiding other people and stealing all their stuff around year 1000 was pretty bad. That and doing our best to destroy the Sàmi culture.

 

[VeryOddGamer]

I am Swedish though, so I guess I can yell and shout at you for trying to defeat us at hockey?

Don't bother, I don't give a crap about sports, especially hockey.
That might just be me more or less unintentionally trying to distance myself from the stereotypical Finn.

 

[kinapuffar]

Swedish here, sorry for this:

We kind of went around the known world fucking people's shit up and stealing all of their silver. Not really for any particular reason, just because we could.
In our defence, Christianity was kind of an condescending asshole religion, and you weren't really USING your silver for anything. Also we had nothing better to do during the summers, and we really really wanted your silver. But we totally get that for generations, being the monsters you use to scare your children into submission means we didn't give off a really good impression, even though we weren't really bad people at heart, we just had a different view on life and death that was more "liberal" if you will.
 

Also, we kind of enslaved quite a lot of you, especially the Irish... Our bad...

 

[mike1921]

The latter. Why do you want it when the people who actually live in the nation are against it, from all walks of life.

Because I don't want Ireland to become like Korea and be in some permanent limbo where they are forever divided. I rather go for the brutish(and I do realize that it is brutish) way that the US also took when the Confederacy tried to separate from the Union. I mean do you honestly think that if we waited until NI agreed, would there be a united Ireland in our lifetime?

Wow, you think the situation is like Korea? How ignorant to the situation you are!

The relations between Ireland and NI are absolutely fine and are "getting better" all the time. Seriously, this is getting silly.

What? No, I said I don't ever want them to progress to such a state, not that I think that they are currently in such a state.

But they aren't progressing towards that and there is no indication they ever will. Because of that I ask again, why do you think they should be rejoined?

Relations are fine and the people do not want it. Who are you to say what's best for the nation.

The more I talk to that person the more I'm convinced that what's best for the nation doesn't matter to them, it's all about the fact they're still called Ireland. If all of what they consider to be "Ireland" is one country it doesn't matter to them if Ireland is a little worse off, it's a gain just for all of Ireland to be one country in itself. Which is such a naive and silly notion I wouldn't expect it of a four year old.

 

[triggrhappy94]

Ah, the USA: Destabilizing legitimate governments for longer than it's even had it's own government. At least Britain had the good sense to stop after a couple centuries. we started with the Native Americans, but we never really stopped.

This basically sums it up. Let's not forget we also prop up unpopular governments in a lot of the places we destablize

 

[Ravnican]

The Conquest of the Desert [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert]. I don't even want to think about all the horrible shit we did. And then you have all the military governments we had and what many consider our darkest moment: the Dirty War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War]. Let us live crowned in glory... or let us swear in glory to die.

 

[easternflame]

Um, well, The governments and the narco I guess.

narco?

drug dealers.
I'm sorry it was late, if forget these things.
"Narcotraficante" means drug dealer.
THe mexican government works with them on several states.

 

[StBishop]

Australia has a pretty dark past. It's on par with, in fact I'd say worse than Apartheid. That said my knowledge of Apartheid is limited to a semester of modern history in high scool.

Google Stolen Generation if you want more info, the effects of this are still not fully understood. There was also some incredibly racist legislation until relatively recently.

 

[SpiralDots]

What did Scotland ever do wrong? Yeah, we took part in England's shenanigans but I can't think of anything we did on our own. Anyone care to enlighten me?

We were nice and decided that if we were going to be horrible to people, we'd be horrible to ourselves.

The Highland Clearances were pretty awful.

 

[cahtush]

Sweden had the first race study istitute and tried to swedify our minorities during the 19th and early 20th century, kinda like stolen generation light.

 

[AlwaystheUnlucky]

Us filipinos have no problem screwing over the lower class(as in people who are lower then us on the socio-economic rung). Also, we can be terribly racist. And look at all these children addicted to shoe glue!

 

[Cheesepower5]

Swedish here, sorry for this:

We kind of went around the known world fucking people's shit up and stealing all of their silver. Not really for any particular reason, just because we could.
In our defence, Christianity was kind of an condescending asshole religion, and you weren't really USING your silver for anything. Also we had nothing better to do during the summers, and we really really wanted your silver. But we totally get that for generations, being the monsters you use to scare your children into submission means we didn't give off a really good impression, even though we weren't really bad people at heart, we just had a different view on life and death that was more "liberal" if you will.
 

Also, we kind of enslaved quite a lot of you, especially the Irish... Our bad...

Did you get that image from the Mount & Blade mod "Brytenwalda"? It was pretty awesome. And if not, where, I'm curious, is it from?

 

[Lonan]

Mass Effect 3 Ending

That was just revenge for putting an innocent Canadian creation like Superman into a particular atrocity of an N64 game.

I'm German, so my answer should be obvious.

For anyone who still doesn't get it, yes, I am talking about this stuff; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauerkraut.

Absolutely atrocious. I'll never forgive my ancestors for popularizing this disgusting stuff.

You think that's bad?

Spoiler

I'm surprised we're not on trial for crimes against humanity.

You people disgust me. We Americans brought you hotdogs and you give us this horrendous shit!

Coming from the guys who made burger in a can.

Spoiler

You guys should go first

I think you just made me barf in my mouth a little.

Oh, it gets better.

Spoiler

Good luck sleeping tonight

Where do you find this shit!? Do you actively look for the most repulsive meals on the planet!?

Strawman!

Don't draw attention away from your heinous crimes against food!

New York and Chicago style pizza! Check mate mother fucker! >

Maple Syrup. Canadian Bacon. Poutine. Name one thing we've done wrong ************.

CLEARLY MY PEOPLE ARE SAINTS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!

Some of your country speak French as a first language.


I win >

Curses, foiled again!

Bah, only one of the two Superman creators were Canadian! Besides, the Jews claimed responsibility for creating Superman long ago!

Oh yeah, blame the Jews. Typical American.

But I... but they... what!?

D:

As a Canadian who is currently behind on my government mandated 10,000 apologies per year quota, I must apologise with sincerity of the highest order for my countrymen's crass behaviour.

Whew, only 7943 more to go.

Excuse me sir, but I find your usage of the term "crass" to be dishonest and slanderous, and would humbly request that you take it back and apologize immediately. However, if you find something of offense in this message then I am sincerely sorry and would not wish to extend these grievances further.

Good day.

I did find "typical Americans" to be generalising an entire country in an insulting fashion, however, I may have misunderstood because we are communicating merely by text, and may have misread the atmosphere. If you did not intend to be malicious with that comment, I do apologise for calling it crass, and for any offence you may have taken.

 

[Anudeep Ravi]

Um, well, The governments and the narco I guess.

narco?

drug dealers.
I'm sorry it was late, if forget these things.
"Narcotraficante" means drug dealer.
THe mexican government works with them on several states.

no dude. India as in India in south Asia.we don't do drug stuff.

 

[Colour Scientist]

As for wanting it to happen, my friends gave me the impression that Irish Catholics in the mainland do want it to happen.

Based on the opinions of how many people? From what I gather, most people here are just glad that relations are good. Would they object if the North wanted to peacefully become part of the Republic? Probably not. That isn't the case though so I think most people are happy to keep improving relations and to keep crossing the border at Christmas time because everything is cheaper.

It was a huge mess that has only just started to finally go away so I don't think throwing around largely misinformed statements like you have helps the situation. As you can see, it's still a pretty hot topic for a lot of people and I think it's best that you either learn more about it (rather than basing your entire opinion on a romanticised view of Bobby Sands) or just don't comment on it.

 

[Cheesepower5]

Mass Effect 3 Ending

That was just revenge for putting an innocent Canadian creation like Superman into a particular atrocity of an N64 game.

I'm German, so my answer should be obvious.

For anyone who still doesn't get it, yes, I am talking about this stuff; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauerkraut.

Absolutely atrocious. I'll never forgive my ancestors for popularizing this disgusting stuff.

You think that's bad?

Spoiler

I'm surprised we're not on trial for crimes against humanity.

You people disgust me. We Americans brought you hotdogs and you give us this horrendous shit!

Coming from the guys who made burger in a can.

Spoiler

You guys should go first

I think you just made me barf in my mouth a little.

Oh, it gets better.

Spoiler

Good luck sleeping tonight

Where do you find this shit!? Do you actively look for the most repulsive meals on the planet!?

Strawman!

Don't draw attention away from your heinous crimes against food!

New York and Chicago style pizza! Check mate mother fucker! >

Maple Syrup. Canadian Bacon. Poutine. Name one thing we've done wrong ************.

CLEARLY MY PEOPLE ARE SAINTS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!

Some of your country speak French as a first language.


I win >

Curses, foiled again!

Bah, only one of the two Superman creators were Canadian! Besides, the Jews claimed responsibility for creating Superman long ago!

Oh yeah, blame the Jews. Typical American.

But I... but they... what!?

D:

As a Canadian who is currently behind on my government mandated 10,000 apologies per year quota, I must apologise with sincerity of the highest order for my countrymen's crass behaviour.

Whew, only 7943 more to go.

Excuse me sir, but I find your usage of the term "crass" to be dishonest and slanderous, and would humbly request that you take it back and apologize immediately. However, if you find something of offense in this message then I am sincerely sorry and would not wish to extend these grievances further.

Good day.

I did find "typical Americans" to be generalising an entire country in an insulting fashion, however, I may have misunderstood because we are communicating merely by text, and may have misread the atmosphere. If you did not intend to be malicious with that comment, I do apologise for calling it crass, and for any offence you may have taken.

Then it would seem to be that we have both been the unfortunate victims of a misunderstanding. I would humbly accept your apologies and extend my own for not being clear in my use of sarcasm. Hopefully we can forget this whole fiasco and move on with our lives.

(And speak normally again, I'm starting to miss that)

 

[Muspelheim]

Swedish here, sorry for this:

We kind of went around the known world fucking people's shit up and stealing all of their silver. Not really for any particular reason, just because we could.
In our defence, Christianity was kind of an condescending asshole religion, and you weren't really USING your silver for anything. Also we had nothing better to do during the summers, and we really really wanted your silver. But we totally get that for generations, being the monsters you use to scare your children into submission means we didn't give off a really good impression, even though we weren't really bad people at heart, we just had a different view on life and death that was more "liberal" if you will.
 

Also, we kind of enslaved quite a lot of you, especially the Irish... Our bad...

Also, we were a bit of an expansionist dictatorship once we actually got a nation up and running. Our main contribution is propably the Swedish intervention in the 30 Years War, in a time where the last thing what-is-now-Germany needed was another swarm of soldiers wandering about looting and killing willy-nilly.
We also did operate a slave fort in Africa briefly. It was a pretty small operation, but it was still a contribution to the slave triangle, buying captured slaves off the local tribes that had conquered them and then selling them on to the British.

We did have a colony going in Delaware, but the dutch came and stole it before any Indian genocide action could commence.
We were also probably not very nice to either the Danish or the Russians on the many occasions we got a'brawling, but I think that the main victims of Dictatorship-era Sweden probably was other Swedes. Skåne, the southmost tip of modern Sweden was acquired from Denmark during the 17'th century (in the truce of Roskilde, I think it was called) and went through a long, horribly brutal campaign to bring the population into the fold.

But then, Karl XII got himself royally buttfucked in Ukraine and we sort of gave up on the world conquest, and things got ever so slightly less horridly brutal. However, one interesting thing of note is that in the 1840's, several European nations as well as the United States, wrote an official protest to the king where they complained about the backwards dictatorship, citing amongst other things that the religious persecution (It was "Lutherian or GTFO" back then, more or less) was unacceptable.
It certainly puts things into perspective, doesn't it?

And we did sort of leave the Finns to fend for themselves in the winter war, but honestly. A soviet bomber "got lost" and accidentally bombed Stockholm, just to show off what they could do. I think our contribution would have been less than useful. Plus, we did leave Raoul Wallenberg to rot, didn't we...

About the only recent thing I can remember is the sneaky, under-the-table sort of support the government gave the Iraq war, in spite of what the citizens thought of it. I do think the army lent their artillery guidance systems to the British forces in Basra, for instance. Little things like that.

Phew... At least with all those tussles with the Danes and Russians, we never had time to steal some country in Africa to ruin. Always something.

EDIT: Fun fact; we're currently holding one of Europe's largest collection of war trophies and other pillaged guff. It's not a huge collection, but apparently, we've just been very good at holding on to what we stole.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/178/140/1316916365002.png

All things aside, we've been too busy lovingly ruining each other's shit (and hooking back up again, kiss) in the North to branch out in the world very much.