The Autistic Hacker: is He at Fault?

[Gametek]

Let him suicide. One less psychopath in the world.

This is the fird post where you cry for the death of another man due to some mental problem. I don't know your problem, but this is way over the top, Kiraxa.

I'd be fine with him not dying. As long as hes locked up for life. Along with everyone else who says they have assburgers. Though dying would be cheaper.

Look, Asperger is the "light" form of Autism. Now, if an asperger do so much trouble to you, what do you do when you meet an autist?

 

[Wintermoot]

Excuse me, my question is different. Did he even found anything on the UFO matter?

As for the prison, it's -tecnically- impossible. Gary is british, and last time I checked, US stand for United State. The USA are powerfull, but not to the point of arrest a citizen of another country. And I think that the England government will be all over Gary information, trying to steal any single private file of USA. They will obviusly try to stop, or at least buy some time, to take a look to any single Data in Gary's Harddisks...

maybe the US put INTERPOL on him (hacking into a government database is allot more serious then hacking a game development studio for beta,s)
also I don,t think they would find anything on his HDD,s (assuming the US has information on extraterrestrial life they wouldn't keep it in a obvious place like the Pentagon or wherever he hacked into it would be hidden in something like a porn stash or family photos of a government official)

It's not important the fact that it's UFO Data or not. Any military, social study, spy location, future war plane, etc. is of vital interest for another state government. It's for this reason that organization like CIA and MK5 have born. The fact that he had steal even only a giga of their data can turn out in an hundred of reserved information.

what good is military data if he,s looking for UFO information?
we aren't talking about a terrorist it,s just some guy looking for UFO information.

 

[Maze1125]

Society doesn't tolerate any form of psychopathy other than autistic psychopathy,

Congrats on not knowing what you're talking about in the slightest, as psychopaths are tolerated every day.

Psychopathy is a clinical lack of empathy. There's nothing intrinsically intolerable about that, there are many jobs where it's even useful or outright desired. Psychopaths are tolerated until they do something intolerable, which isn't very often. They may not have empathy, but they mostly have the sense to not do things which would get them sent to jail.

You know that guy who enjoys hurting wild animals? He's likely a psychopath.
You know that guy who laughs at other's misfortunes, the worse they are, the funnier he finds them, even if he has the sense not to show it? He's likely a psychopath.
You know that guy who thinks the world would be a better place if a whole group of people were shot in the head, regardless of their circumstances and how each member of that group is different from the others? He's likely a psychopath.

None of those things are intolerable to our society, we let psychopaths live their lives until they do something criminal, just like everyone else.

Should someone get off of a crime because they have Asperger's Syndrome? No, we shouldn't. That doesn't mean everyone with Asperger's deserves to die though, that's just irrational.

 

[Alkaline]

Let him suicide. One less psychopath in the world.

This is the fird post where you cry for the death of another man due to some mental problem. I don't know your problem, but this is way over the top, Kiraxa.

I'd be fine with him not dying. As long as hes locked up for life. Along with everyone else who says they have assburgers. Though dying would be cheaper.

Look, Asperger is the "light" form of Autism. Now, if an asperger do so much trouble to you, what do you do when you meet an autist?

Ignore them like I ignore dogs. Since they're the same thing.

Kiraxa confirmed for psychopath.

 

[Wintermoot]

Frankly, yes, he should still be charged.

I don't care if you have ADHD or autism or Asperger's Syndrome, that should not be a free pass for anything at all. None of those conditions are untreatable, nor are they even remotely difficult to treat. We as a culture need to stop feeling bad for these sorts of people with extremely minor mental disorders, and stop letting them use it as an excuse or scapegoat.

Schizophrenia, maybe, would be another story. But certainly not Asperger's.

actually ADHD and Aspergers are untreatable (Ritalin only combat,s the "symptoms")
but I agree people should stop using scape goats when they do stuff.

huh funny people keep telling me that I need to tell MORE people I have ADD because I I am constantly not catching things in classes and dazing off in lectures so I miss important things and end up failing assignments but I guess your right its my fault...

that,s something different but more like using it to scape goat stuff like breaking the law or skipping work.
you can,t do anything about dozing off but let,s say you stop doing homework or other class assignments and blaming it on your ADD is something entirely different
(excuse my shitty grammar)

 

[Neonit]

if he understands that what he did was wrong he deserves punishment because he still decided to do it.

if he doesnt realize that what he has done was wrong, then he should be locked up for his and other's protection.

so, imho in both cases he should be locked up. only difference should be "in which fine institute"


then again, im no expert.

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

Correct good sir. Assburgers is what happens when you have an "intelligent" autistic mixed with psychopathy. By definition. "Autistischen Psychopathen" is the name of it. Of course no one calls it that because they'd rather hide under the name of the doctor who outlined it.

Err... couple of things...

While Aspergers and Psycopathy are both mental disorders, they are about as far apart as a male and female. Sure they are both human, but you'd be making a grave mistake mixing the two. Difficulty in understanding social cues and the limited devotion to certain aspects of life are far cries from the inability to feel basic human emotions like psycopaths.

Someone suffering from Aspergers could easily feel remorse for mistaking a social cue, while a psycopath is simply incapable of said emotion to begin with.

I prefer study to social sanctioned death personally.

 

[Thamian]

Excuse me, my question is different. Did he even found anything on the UFO matter?

As for the prison, it's -tecnically- impossible. Gary is british, and last time I checked, US stand for United State. The USA are powerfull, but not to the point of arrest a citizen of another country. And I think that the England government will be all over Gary information, trying to steal any single private file of USA. They will obviusly try to stop, or at least buy some time, to take a look to any single Data in Gary's Harddisks...

Firstly, they can. It's called extradition. Look at one of my previous posts in this thread to ascertain the rest of the info you need on that one.

Second, if they were going to do that with the hard drives, they'd have done it by now, this tale is several years old now. And frankly, they probably already had them, they have got much better cracker's on the payroll (mainly because it's more gainful to employ them than punishment when you ctach 'em, provided that you do it quietly and so can not look like you're rewarding criminal activity).

 

[Gametek]

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what good is military data if he,s looking for UFO information?
we aren't talking about a terrorist it,s just some guy looking for UFO information.

It's not him. It's any government in this word want an acces to the secret data of USA. As he is british born, I do see how the GB would love to protect him enough time to take a look to is HD. Do you have even an idea of how much it's worth any secret information of the USA government?

 

[Alexlion]

Should he be charged yes, should be be extradited NO. Why? America still has the death penalty thats not a decent justice system in my book. Also in the entire history of britains extradition treaty with the US they have denied every request to extradite a criminal to here (UK) so they can taste their own medicine.

 

[Maze1125]

Society doesn't tolerate any form of psychopathy other than autistic psychopathy,

Congrats on not knowing what you're talking about in the slightest, as psychopaths are tolerated every day.

Psychopathy is a clinical lack of empathy. There's nothing intrinsically intolerable about that, there are many jobs where it's even useful or outright desired. Psychopaths are tolerated until they do something intolerable, which isn't very often. They may not have empathy, but they mostly have the sense to not do things which would get them sent to jail.

You know that guy who enjoys hurting wild animals? He's likely a psychopath.
You know that guy who laughs at other's misfortunes, the worse they are, the funnier he finds them, even if he has the sense not to show it? He's likely a psychopath.
You know that guy who thinks the world would be a better place if a whole group of people were shot in the head, regardless of their circumstances and how each member of that group is different from the others? He's likely a psychopath.

None of those things are intolerable to our society, we let psychopaths live their lives until they do something criminal, just like everyone else.

Should someone get off of a crime because they have Asperger's Syndrome? No, we shouldn't. That doesn't mean everyone with Asperger's deserves to die though, that's just irrational.

Congrats on not knowing what YOU'RE talking about. all those definitions other than the first officially ended in the 1980s. #2 and #3 is now known as sociopathy. I AM a sociopath. A Psychopath is someone who acts on their sociopathy in a society harming manner.

And when was the term "autistic psychopathy" chosen?

 

[Macgyvercas]

assburgers people are just a bunch of attention-whoring dickshits. The proper term for their "illness" is Autistic Psychopathy. Any other group of psychopaths are locked up for the good of mankind, but assburgers have convinced the world they're special. Lock him up for life. And then pass a law that requires euthanization of anyone who uses assburgers as an excuse.

I have aspergers and some of us are attention whores but so are "normal" people (for example: Charlie Sheen or Paris Hilton)
and unlike Chris Chandler most of us are mentally stable and form no threat to the society.

Quoted for truth. It's people like the guy you quoted that really tick me off (Aspergers as well, diagnosed at age 6).

OT: In regards to the hacker, this guy's post sums up my thoughts.

Was he fully aware that what he was doing was illegal?
Yes, so he should be punished like any other hacker.

If a person without Aspergers or Autism hacked into a system and their excuse was "But I was REALLY curious!" it wouldn't help their defence.

 

[Gametek]

Let him suicide. One less psychopath in the world.

This is the fird post where you cry for the death of another man due to some mental problem. I don't know your problem, but this is way over the top, Kiraxa.

I'd be fine with him not dying. As long as hes locked up for life. Along with everyone else who says they have assburgers. Though dying would be cheaper.

Look, Asperger is the "light" form of Autism. Now, if an asperger do so much trouble to you, what do you do when you meet an autist?

Ignore them like I ignore dogs. Since they're the same thing.

Kiraxa confirmed for psychopath.

Kiraxa confirmed for sociopath.

That is not exactly a good thing, you know. Actually, is kind of bad.

 

[daltonlaffs]

Frankly, yes, he should still be charged.

I don't care if you have ADHD or autism or Asperger's Syndrome, that should not be a free pass for anything at all. None of those conditions are untreatable, nor are they even remotely difficult to treat. We as a culture need to stop feeling bad for these sorts of people with extremely minor mental disorders, and stop letting them use it as an excuse or scapegoat.

Schizophrenia, maybe, would be another story. But certainly not Asperger's.

actually ADHD and Aspergers are untreatable (Ritalin only combat,s the "symptoms")
but I agree people should stop using scape goats when they do stuff.

huh funny people keep telling me that I need to tell MORE people I have ADD because I I am constantly not catching things in classes and dazing off in lectures so I miss important things and end up failing assignments but I guess your right its my fault...

Not necessarily your fault, but I would say it's completely under your control if you would make an effort to improve. ADD makes it more difficult to focus, but not anywhere near impossible. And if you really can't help yourself, maybe you should get help in the form of medicine or therapy.

 

[Dirkie]

Ignore them like I ignore dogs. Since they're the same thing.

I do wonder, what has happened that makes you dislike or even hate people because of this?

 

[Mathak]

Let him suicide. One less psychopath in the world.

This is the fird post where you cry for the death of another man due to some mental problem. I don't know your problem, but this is way over the top, Kiraxa.

I'd be fine with him not dying. As long as hes locked up for life. Along with everyone else who says they have assburgers. Though dying would be cheaper.

Look, Asperger is the "light" form of Autism. Now, if an asperger do so much trouble to you, what do you do when you meet an autist?

Ignore them like I ignore dogs. Since they're the same thing.

Kiraxa confirmed for psychopath.

Kiraxa confirmed for sociopath.

kk guys. Queue the SS death squad and have him and his family rounded up. Let's purge that gene pool.

 

[TakerFoxx]

Uh, Kiraxa? You do realize that the Escapist has several members who have Asperger's Syndrome, right? Just checking.

 

[Gametek]

Let him suicide. One less psychopath in the world.

This is the fird post where you cry for the death of another man due to some mental problem. I don't know your problem, but this is way over the top, Kiraxa.

I'd be fine with him not dying. As long as hes locked up for life. Along with everyone else who says they have assburgers. Though dying would be cheaper.

Look, Asperger is the "light" form of Autism. Now, if an asperger do so much trouble to you, what do you do when you meet an autist?

Ignore them like I ignore dogs. Since they're the same thing.

Kiraxa confirmed for psychopath.

Kiraxa confirmed for sociopath.

That is not exactly a good thing, you know. Actually, is kind of bad.

I live in USA, where being a sociopath is considered one of the best attributes you can possibly have by the upper echelons of the country.

Never heard about that. It's still a bad thing, as I really kind find any social reason way lack of empathy and wishing another man dead is good.

 

[Maze1125]

Every assburger harms society with their presence.

Well that's a completely irrational and unprovable claim.

 

[Wintermoot]

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to be fair most people,s experience with autistic people is Chris Chandler and he doesn't really doing a job of putting us in a positive light. (I personally think he doesn't have Autism and is just mentally/socially challenged)
also I don,t defend this troll or ignorant user.