The Avengers Gets First Rotten Review

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Yes Im sorry, but to me, I see that as being much worse and more illogical. Basically that sort of grading structure puts 50% or better as passable. Really in what area of life do you want someone who was only able to complete or comprehend half of what they were taught? When I went to school, a C Started at 75, but they lowered it because the general population is in fact (despite what this generation wants to convince you of) getting dumber. 75 makes more sense, Being able to comprehend 3/4ths of what you have been taught as being passable is much more reassuring than 50%

A-Levels aren't marked based solely on knowledge though, at least mine aren't. For my history course you need to know what you're talking about to get an E (lowest grade) and you need to be able to write a convincing essay with absolutely no narrative. There's indicative content that we need to cover for all areas of grades then we have to hit the essay writing abilities to get anything worth putting into UCAS. Aside from the marking system we have to do a massive jump from GCSEs to essentially university level syllabus. If you do biology at A-level you've essentially completed part of the course for university because it's just repeated. To ask any student for 75% of a university course straight after winging their GCSEs (which is entirely possible, most of my grades were Bs without revision) would be madness, especially when the only purpose is to prove you're capable of going to uni, I imagine an American test is entirely knowledge based and not quite as difficult as an A-level but I couldn't know that without trying both out. Look at me trying to validate myself, I feel like I'm 14 again.

 

[repeating integers]

I love how the review has 147 comments. When The Dark Knight got its first negative review, there were at least 500 comments on it, most of them telling the reviewer to never review again, their taste was shit, and that they should kill themselves LOL.

I still fondly remember "THIS REVIEWER HAS NO CREDIBILITY AND SHOULD DIE!!"

 

[Mayhaps]

Sorry for being slightly off topic, but I'd just like to complain a bit.
It seems like they're only releasing it in 3D (in theaters) in my country, how shitty is that.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

If I got 60% that would be a C. I'd get a U (English A-level equivalent of an F) if I got less than less than 40%. Your test system is botched as fuck dude. That said, our grade depends on the overall performance curve so there's a decent spread of fuck ups and smart people, regardless of how well you actually do.

Yes Im sorry, but to me, I see that as being much worse and more illogical. Basically that sort of grading structure puts 50% or better as passable. Really in what area of life do you want someone who was only able to complete or comprehend half of what they were taught? When I went to school, a C Started at 75, but they lowered it because the general population is in fact (despite what this generation wants to convince you of) getting dumber. 75 makes more sense, Being able to comprehend 3/4ths of what you have been taught as being passable is much more reassuring than 50%

Because in Ireland the UK test are completely different. Also just because it is done one way somewhere it doesn't have to be done all ways everywhere as there are different standards for different countries. As what is a 75% in one American school could only be a 55% in an Irish school. Still the same grade though.

OT: That is not something I would ever call a negative review.

 

[AgentNein]

I love all of this talk on the number grade being positive or negative by equating it to grades in school. Really? Is this really a conversation worth having? Read the review. It's fairly positive. There we go. Mystery solved. You're welcome. One more small sentence. Okay I'm done.

 

[For.I.Am.Mad]

Fuck rottentomatoes.

 

[Eric Morales]

I admit a very small part of me that thrives entirely on schadenfreude wants the Avengers to be terrible if only to teach MovieBob a lesson in complacency.

 

[Something Amyss]

Heh, yeah. This movie is pretty much meant for people who saw all the others. It isn't really a standalone and I don't see a problem with that. Might as well complain that The Return of the King makes no sense without watching the previous two. Not quite the same, but close enough I think. Movies that require others for context aren't something new, this one's just somewhat different.

Alas, I didn't get Kingdoms of Amalur. I might try it though. Was tempted to.

Star Wars may be the better parallel, since it's still technically "epic," but it's also sort of a B-movie deal. Closest sort of thing I can come to a comic book movie. I mean, without context, Jedi seems a bit flat.

Technically, any trilogy will work. This isn't a trilogy per se, but the same rules of build up should apply.

Personally, I feel a bit insulted by how much TV shows recap at the beginning of episodes. It started with crucial info or stuff from way back, but now it's "Hey guys, we know you have the attention span of a goldfish, so here's the last four seasons in a nutshell."

Not everything needs a recap. Not everything needs to be absolutely casual friendly. And I think this is one of them. I can't imagine people going into this movie not having watched the other Marvel movies. At least not in a significant number.

A tangent, but the Simpsons parodied this sort of stuff like, fifteen years ago. It's funny how it's sort of come true.

 

[Danzavare]

Looking at the 96% on rotten tomatoes, I don't think it's worth taking issue with her review. Not that I would, I'm approaching the film with a healthy dose of Skepticism.

 

[Toaster Hunter]

Its hard to judge a review, which is someone's personal opinion, especially if I haven't actually seen the movie myself. I always take reviews with a grain or two of salt.

 

[viranimus]

Spoiler: Attempt to diffuse derailment, slotted for quote response.

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Ok this is what my point is. The current US system is
100-90= A
89-80 = B
79-70 = C
69-60 = D
59-0 = F

This is the over all grade structure in the US from K- masters. There are certain variations that start to come into play post HS, but for the most part this is the structure with the exception of rare pass/fail courses (though those tend to use this structure too to determine P/F)

Thats the point of this and the reason I bring this up. This is incredibly simple, and easy to tabulate. You can have first grade kids comprehending this. The cut off line is D for passing (though some classes might require a C to pass but again that typically does not occur till post high school)

Seriously. 20 questions on a test. Multiple choice test, student misses 5 out of 20. that is 75% of the questions answered right. That is a C.

What does not make sense is tabulation, variables, and other students performance on your test scores (IE the curve) that makes grading much more subjective and opens up a huge can of problems. I mean The Unworthy Gentleman sort of suggests this is the case by indicating that having to validate oneself is sort of common trope during HS level education.

Anyway, no. It does not have to be done the same way in different places. Hell its a logical thing that it wouldnt be. It makes sense for the US system to be much more simplified considering it is applicable to 85 million students vs what might need more specialization in the UK being applicable to only 11 million. And take this as a stupid American joke if you wish but yes we need a much more simple grading structure.

On topic: Why exactly is this film world premiered an entire month before the US release for a US made film? Is this a secret plot to undermine Joss Whedon by ensuring that the US box office will tank by high quality copies being "leaked" via overseas torrents before its even released in the US thus not having to work with him in the future?

 

[DeadFOAM]

How is 3/5 a negative?

That's over half.

Well if I got 60% on a test that would be considered an F.

Edit: I'd get a D. 59% and less is an F. My mistake. Not a large one, but I dislike spreading misinformation.

Really? Wow, at my old high school a 69 was an F, we had no D grade. That mentality has stuck with me to this day.

Well I'm not in high school, I'm in university. And it's a tad more flexible, but a D grade does exist.

But personally I view less than a C as a failure for me. And a C makes me unhappy anyway.

I'm in college as well. I'm just saying that the mindset has stuck with me to this day because of high school.

 

[Laughing Man]

Hmmm, well let's look at it this way. I am no comic book fan, 6 years ago I couldn't tell you what an Iron Man was or even one of the folk that makes up the Avengers. Then Iron Man came along, well I think Hulk did but the first one is meant to suck so saying you enjoyed it is some sort of criminal offence. Anyway went and saw Iron Man and loved it, then went on to watch all the lead up movies and have enjoyed all of them.

I am looking forward to The Avengers movie hugely, if all the movies leading up to it were enjoyable how the hell can a movie that has ALL the characters in it be worse? I think maths proves that that is not physically possible.

Iron + Hulk + Captain America + Thor + Scarlett Johansson in a skin tight cat suit = pure awesome.

See told ya!

 

[Something Amyss]

Urgh, yeah. That thing bugs me because I always wanted it to get to the show, not waste time over things I already know.

Especially when something major is promised.

Oddly enough, I always liked the season finale recaps on Supernatural. Could be because of the song. I hated the fact that they did a recap in pretty much every other episode, though/

And yeah, this is definitely one of the things that needn't be casual friendly. Besides, pretty sure anyone seeing it ought to know there were several movies leading up to it. It's not as if it goes without a bit of a warning.

since they've been hyping this since before it was a thing? Yeah. I should hope so. I was always afraid it would never come to fruition. I'm going to be annoyed if lack of recaps actually harms this movie or the concept. I want to see other supergroup movies. Not counting the X-Men, because that started as a supergroup movie.

I was a bit too young to notice that kind of commentary 15 years ago, sadly. Been too long since I saw much of the Simpsons to recall. XP

God, you kids and your lack of appreciation for the classics! Get off my lawn!

>.>

The thing I had in mind is they had several instances where someone would recap after a segue, and someone would comment on how weird it was that they were restating what everyone already knows.