I played Morrowind, Oblivion, And Skyrim. Morrowind was the most revolutionary, wierd and difficult game between III IV and V. Oblivion was the most adventurous, had an excellent Main Quest, and the Thieves Guild was incredible, as well as many other aspects of the game (including shivering isles, never played knights of the nine). Skyrim...was very anticipated by myself and others. It was a great game, don't get me wrong, yet it was not the Elder Scrolls game I wanted. If they release an elder scrolls VI, i hope it takes place in Elsweyr or High Rock. That would be incredible. Oh, and i hope it is more of an RPG than a Fantasy Shooter xD
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Morrowind have good atmosphere, guild quests and soundtrack.
Oblivion have good atmosphere, innovation in gameplay -like: you can buy and ride horse, you can buy house, advanced character customization- guild quests is fun and main and side quests are excellent. You can feel adventure while play Oblivion. Discovering new location is fun. Soundtrack is good as Morrowind.
Skyrim is simple game. Like this game made for six years old kids. You can`t create or choose a class. Easy to gettting level. There is a marker showing you where to go, what you must take and who you must kill. Main quests sucks. Some side quest is fun but some side quest sucks like main quest. Being dragornborn is cool but while playing, you can`t feel being a dragornborn is important. Locations is same. Everywhere is standart. But there is not a such thing like Blackreach in other games. Blackreach is most beautiful place in Skyrim. I think, it is only one. Soundtrack are fit to game. Especially, there is one music I love in this game. It is start playing when a dragon shows up. There is so much mod for this game. It`s explain why this game sucks.
The best Elder Scrolls game is Oblivion for me. I think, people like Morrowind more than Oblivion because Morrowind their first The Elder Scrolls game. And this is why people love Skyrim.
Oblivion have good atmosphere, innovation in gameplay -like: you can buy and ride horse, you can buy house, advanced character customization- guild quests is fun and main and side quests are excellent. You can feel adventure while play Oblivion. Discovering new location is fun. Soundtrack is good as Morrowind.
Skyrim is simple game. Like this game made for six years old kids. You can`t create or choose a class. Easy to gettting level. There is a marker showing you where to go, what you must take and who you must kill. Main quests sucks. Some side quest is fun but some side quest sucks like main quest. Being dragornborn is cool but while playing, you can`t feel being a dragornborn is important. Locations is same. Everywhere is standart. But there is not a such thing like Blackreach in other games. Blackreach is most beautiful place in Skyrim. I think, it is only one. Soundtrack are fit to game. Especially, there is one music I love in this game. It is start playing when a dragon shows up. There is so much mod for this game. It`s explain why this game sucks.
The best Elder Scrolls game is Oblivion for me. I think, people like Morrowind more than Oblivion because Morrowind their first The Elder Scrolls game. And this is why people love Skyrim.
You know what, I think it's Morrowind. It's just unfortunate that the graphics have aged so badly.
The reason I think Morrowind rather than Skyrim is the fact that the quest don't patronise you. You aren't following a marker blindly to a destination and so it makes for a more immersive experience.
The next time I play through Skyrim I'm going to add a mod that gives more detailed quest descriptors (already found this) and play it with the marker switched off.
I think it will be more fun that way.
I do love Skyrim but I wish that the Elder Scrolls Team had been a little more constructive with taking what was good from the other games and incorporating them into it.
Oblivion seemed a little bland to me (Cyrodiil pretty much just looks like where I live..) and I hated the Oblivion sections. The Shivering Isles were excellent though.
(I know there are older Elder Scrolls games but I thought I would narrow it down to these three)
The reason I think Morrowind rather than Skyrim is the fact that the quest don't patronise you. You aren't following a marker blindly to a destination and so it makes for a more immersive experience.
The next time I play through Skyrim I'm going to add a mod that gives more detailed quest descriptors (already found this) and play it with the marker switched off.
I think it will be more fun that way.
I do love Skyrim but I wish that the Elder Scrolls Team had been a little more constructive with taking what was good from the other games and incorporating them into it.
Oblivion seemed a little bland to me (Cyrodiil pretty much just looks like where I live..) and I hated the Oblivion sections. The Shivering Isles were excellent though.
(I know there are older Elder Scrolls games but I thought I would narrow it down to these three)
Oblivion, AND SCREW EVERYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE. RAWRAWRAW.
Seriously though I've only played Oblivion and Skyrim so I obviously can't judge what the best game of the Elder Scrolls series is, but Oblivion is by far my favourite out of the two. While Skyrim is a great, fun game in its own way, it's just not RPG-y enough for my tastes, I find the landscape of Skyrim dull and the game takes itself way too seriously. Nostalgia most likely clouds my view a bit in this too, but the majority of my opinion on the matter stems from the departure in atmosphere from Oblivion to Skyrim.
Seriously though I've only played Oblivion and Skyrim so I obviously can't judge what the best game of the Elder Scrolls series is, but Oblivion is by far my favourite out of the two. While Skyrim is a great, fun game in its own way, it's just not RPG-y enough for my tastes, I find the landscape of Skyrim dull and the game takes itself way too seriously. Nostalgia most likely clouds my view a bit in this too, but the majority of my opinion on the matter stems from the departure in atmosphere from Oblivion to Skyrim.
I have to agree with you. Daggerfall is one of the very few games that I've played where I enjoyed dungeoun crawling. I remember desperately trying to find a safe place to rest, but 90% of the time you can always here something scuttling around down the hall from you, so the game won't let you sleep. Made the dungeons very tense.teh_Canape said:
Also, Daggerfall had the best character creation process out of the Elder Scrolls games that I haves played (I haven't played Arena, Battlespire, or Skyrim, so I can't comment on those). Daggerfall was also a great game for fucking around. You could take a huge loan out from a bank, then by a boat from the same bank and sail off to another kingdom, never to repay your bank loan.
So, I'm going to say Daggerfall is my favorite Elderscrolls RPG (although I haven't played all of the games, so that is tentative).
I also have to give credit to Redguard. While it isn't an RPG, and has some very awkward gameplay elements that should by all rights make the game irritating to play, I for some reason loved it back in the day. The confrontation with Nafalilaargas (or however you spell that) shaped my conception of what confronting a dragon should be like. The quest to learn and perform a propper burial ritual for that one lady's son was a great moment for building up Tamriel's lore, and N'gasta was a neat character.
Going to the realm of a Deadra lord and finding it to be a colorful place inhabited by a demon that looked and sounded like a little boy was a neat moment too. Especially his explanation for his name.
And there are a bunch of other quests that I loved in that game, but I'm not going to list them all since that would be boring as hell, and I've already rambled for too long. Basically, I wanted to mention how much I loved Redguard since no one else has mentioned it.
Having only played Oblivion and Skyrim, I'm gonna have to go with Skyrim. Oblivion was boring, bland, lifeless, and both melee and magic combat mechanics sucked. Skyrim at least tries not to be as bland and lifeless, and the magic combat mechanics are much improved. Melee still needs (a lot of) work though.
I've only played Oblivion and Skyrim, and it's tough to say between the two. I sank way more hours into Oblivion, and it was some of the most fun I've had with any video game. But there's no question Skyrim is a more polished, better feeling game. The combat was vastly improved, the environment had an awesome amount of variation, and it was immersive enough to allow me to lose myself to the game's world.
If I tried to go back and play Oblivion, I don't think I could handle the boring-ish combat and somewhat dead world, comparatively at least. Because of that, I'll say Skyrim.
If I tried to go back and play Oblivion, I don't think I could handle the boring-ish combat and somewhat dead world, comparatively at least. Because of that, I'll say Skyrim.
Now that I've finally played Morrowind, I have to say that it does far outpace Skyrim in terms of writing, and I actually kind of enjoyed not having quest markers pointing me to every little thing once I got used to it. I would have preferred just a little more direction for some quests, but at least there's a detailed journal, and you can usually ask characters for more information on where you have to go. Skyrim has much better gameplay, though. I'll give up all the spears, super-jumping, and levitation spells in the world just to be able to shoot a bear with an arrow at point-blank range without a 50% chance of it "missing" even though it clearly hit the thing. I also like being able to wear shoes as a Khajiit, and being able to walk 30 feet without being swarmed by cliff racers.
So, it's a tie between Morrowind and Skyrim, I guess. Morrowind has better writing, has more options, and finishing quests is more rewarding, but Skyrim is more fun, more polished, and less frustrating to actually play.
So, it's a tie between Morrowind and Skyrim, I guess. Morrowind has better writing, has more options, and finishing quests is more rewarding, but Skyrim is more fun, more polished, and less frustrating to actually play.
Agreed, the map is 4000 times the size of Skyrim. I loved Daggerfall bugs and all, I know I've never forgiven Morrowind for being minuscule. I'm enjoying Skyrim despite it being particularly bland when it comes to the races/genders. I'm sure there are mods to fix that though.Rawne1980 said:
Oh and Oblivion has the worst looking characters in all of the Elder Scrolls, ugh the horror of the potato people and Shrek orcs.
I played Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, and I choose Morrowind. Morrowind's setting, geography, and quests were way better for me, but I really didn't like the combat because of how hard it made the beginning. That game had a whole bunch of stuff to do and lots of spells, weapons, and armors that you can mix and match. It's just a great game if you can get into it.
Morrowind may be a better RPG in terms of the amount of effects and freedom you have, but Skyrim is a much better game. Morrowind got the 'Role-Playing' part right, but forgot 'Game'. The gameplay in Morrowind is awful, with attacks missing and spells failing for no apparent reason and obscenely slow walking. Skyrim may be easier and all playstyles are supported, but how does that make it bad? Who wants to play for 30 hours and then find that their class is completely gimped for the rest of the game?
Oblivion is closest to the best of both worlds. It has both deep class options and accessible gameplay, but it's let down by its asinine NPCs with no personalities and horribly broken level scaling.
Skyrim is the best out of these three for me. I haven't played the first two Elder Scrolls games so I can't pass judgement on them.
Oblivion is closest to the best of both worlds. It has both deep class options and accessible gameplay, but it's let down by its asinine NPCs with no personalities and horribly broken level scaling.
Skyrim is the best out of these three for me. I haven't played the first two Elder Scrolls games so I can't pass judgement on them.
I'm going to have to go with Morrowind as my favorite. Oblivion was ok, not the greatest RPG but it had some good action, and some of the DLC and expansions really improved it. I just disliked the beginning of the "dumbing down" of the game. Bethesda took too many of the things I liked out of the game for Oblivion (seriously, no levitate, no throwing weapons, no spears? WTF?) Daggerfall was good, but Morrowind was really where story, gameplay and graphics started to come together in a cohesive whole.
Skyrim is a very close second. While it is still missing a lot of the favorite things that Bethesda took out for Oblivion, it adds some neat features and has a great story. I also like the way they do leveling in Skyrim over the leveling in all of the other games. What I don't like was the removal of the stats, that bothered me. Adding more perks, that was nice though.
I can't say that I hated any of the Elder Scrolls games, there were just some I liked a bit more than others.
Skyrim is a very close second. While it is still missing a lot of the favorite things that Bethesda took out for Oblivion, it adds some neat features and has a great story. I also like the way they do leveling in Skyrim over the leveling in all of the other games. What I don't like was the removal of the stats, that bothered me. Adding more perks, that was nice though.
I can't say that I hated any of the Elder Scrolls games, there were just some I liked a bit more than others.
Morrowind is just magical. I've never been as immersed in a world as I was in Morrowind. It can't really be sufficiently explained to someone who hasn't experienced the difference between Morrowind and the later games for themselves.
The illogic of this statement is almost palpable... but I have to agreeTaintedSaint said:
I replayed Morrowind earlier this year, with mods to update the graphics. It's still a great game. What I love most about it is, it doesn't hold your hand. Want to find something? Follow the directions an NPC gives you, look for landmarks, get lost, explore, find something unexpected. The complexity and variety of Morrowind has never been equalled in an open-world game. Plus, the faction system is fantastic. There are factions you don't even know about overtly, groups you'll never get to join, but the choices you've made will still affect how they feel about you and what you can do.
Best of all, Morrowind lets you screw up. It even lets you kill essential NPCs although it will give you a message to tell you that the chain of prophecy has been broken. It lets you wander into areas you're not ready for yet and get killed. It doesn't fill your map with quest markers or force you down a predetermined path.
I love Morrowind. It's in my all-time top 10. Skyrim and Oblivion, whilst they're fine games, never quite reached that high water mark.
Best of all, Morrowind lets you screw up. It even lets you kill essential NPCs although it will give you a message to tell you that the chain of prophecy has been broken. It lets you wander into areas you're not ready for yet and get killed. It doesn't fill your map with quest markers or force you down a predetermined path.
I love Morrowind. It's in my all-time top 10. Skyrim and Oblivion, whilst they're fine games, never quite reached that high water mark.
I think they all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
I could never really get in Daggerfall myself, the huge world really appealed to me but I found various aspects really confusing if not badly designed. Like many other games it also suffered from being made in that awkward early 3D era.
Morrowind obviously has very dated combat, but the story and setting are awesome in my opinion. My first few days in Morrowind were some of the most immersive and memorable I've ever had in a game.
Oblivion? I honestly enjoyed it but I think it's the weakest in the series post-Daggerfall (which I haven't played enough to really judge). Off the top of my head, the only thing that stands out are the beautiful forests and soothing music. Everything else is better done in either Morrowind or Skyrim. I guess it could have a certain appeal as being the "middle of the road" game, but it didn't do it for me in the long run.
Skyrim is, I think, almost as much fun as Morrowind to explore but the storylines and quests are severly lacking. I also don't like the linear dungeon design.
If I had to pick one, it would be a toss between Morrowind and Skyrim. My heart says Morrowind but my brain says Skyrim.
I could never really get in Daggerfall myself, the huge world really appealed to me but I found various aspects really confusing if not badly designed. Like many other games it also suffered from being made in that awkward early 3D era.
Morrowind obviously has very dated combat, but the story and setting are awesome in my opinion. My first few days in Morrowind were some of the most immersive and memorable I've ever had in a game.
Oblivion? I honestly enjoyed it but I think it's the weakest in the series post-Daggerfall (which I haven't played enough to really judge). Off the top of my head, the only thing that stands out are the beautiful forests and soothing music. Everything else is better done in either Morrowind or Skyrim. I guess it could have a certain appeal as being the "middle of the road" game, but it didn't do it for me in the long run.
Skyrim is, I think, almost as much fun as Morrowind to explore but the storylines and quests are severly lacking. I also don't like the linear dungeon design.
If I had to pick one, it would be a toss between Morrowind and Skyrim. My heart says Morrowind but my brain says Skyrim.
Honestly, Skyrim is my least favorite Elder Scrolls Games, and by far the most over-rated of the series. I can't believe people would pit the best of the best like Morrowind against Skyrim, which only lasted about 9 hours to me. Story was horrible, gameplay was rehashed Fallout 3 with those finishers, no skill involved accept when aiming things, and the RPG elements were just terrible. I'm dumbfounded that Skyrim got as much praise at it did, but enough ranting for one comment.
Morrowind wins this by a long shot in my opinion. Meh combat doesn't break a game that just is that insanely addictive immersive and interesting. If you've made it this far in the thread, you obviously already know the rest of Morrowins Pros, so I'll shut up now.
Morrowind wins this by a long shot in my opinion. Meh combat doesn't break a game that just is that insanely addictive immersive and interesting. If you've made it this far in the thread, you obviously already know the rest of Morrowins Pros, so I'll shut up now.