The Big Picture: Boy's Own Adventure

[Mr. Q]

I've only seen the previews for Shezow and my first thoughts were "Ah, fuck! This is gonna be something the GOP/Fox News/anti-gay & lesbian pack of retards will ***** and moan about, isn't it?!" It never fails. Every time something intrudes into their little bullshit fantasy world, they start fussing and whining like an infant with a soiled diaper. Seriously, if there was ever a group of people that needed to be committed to the mental asylums for the rest of their lives, its them. In fact, I'd like to see each one of these idiots castrated and lobotomized, if only to spare the human gene pool any further pollution.

It's the 21st century, ladies and germs. We may not have jet-packs or flying cars yet, but we're slowly but surely trying to make things better for all aspects of humanity. Either get on board the train towards Progress City or you can ride the short bus off a fucking cliff.

EDIT: I completely forgot about Ranma 1/2 and surprised that the "old farts on their porch" are screaming this too. Then again, unless its something current in our mass media world or it goes viral like overnight, a manga from the late 1980s is not gonna pop up on their radar. If it does, then my thoughts and prayers go out to the Anime/Manga fan base that get caught up in the shit storm. ^^;

 

[hentropy]

Back when the Secret World of Arietty came out, Fox News got worked up over the idea of "borrowing" (as in The Borrowers) as some kind of evil socialist plot. I'm not even making this up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RuFcWkFJZgk

Fox News is basically paid to be outraged about something all the time, it ultimately won't matter in a week. Especially since this form of crossdressing is completely innocuous, but I think even with that it'll be more a show for girls than boys who want to be girls. Crossdressing has been a theme in fiction for a very long time, stretching back to those bad old days of patriarchy, so long as the crossdressing isn't done because the boy actually wants to be a girl, but because of some other circumstance.

 

[shadowmagus]

I'm totally with you on the "Fox news is over-exaggerating about a cartoon" bit. Its a cartoon.

That said, you lost me at "Connected to men= good; independent=evil". Your white knight is showing.

Again.

Stop it.

 

[Sir Shockwave]

...Are you sure nobody's stuck the whole "gay agenda" thing on the Ponies yet? Or is that just the Internet?

Also - The Hub for me is not the channel to watch Ponies. It's the Channel to go watch Transformers X3

 

[jaymiechan]

Bob kinda glossed over the fact that LGBT issues, especially these days, tends to leave the B and T behind, as well as the concerns for LGBT youth, focusing purely on assimilation theory and gay marriage.

I hate to be....*that guy* advancing the flamewar, but would Bi groups need special attention? If they have a partner of the opposite gender, that's already socially accepted. It would only be if they tried to have a same-sex partner that they'd face any kind of discrimination, and that's what the 'L' and 'G' sections of the 'LGBT' movement are focusing on.

Having said that, Trans groups are pretty darn under-represented and could use a little more positive exposure [footnote]No, not like that you sick bastards....[/footnote].

Sure, it seems like that, but factor in that there is a rather large (and surprising) amount of biphobia/anti-bi-bias in both the gay and straight communities. LG people see bi folks as 'undecided gay people', both sides see bi people as automatically poly or unloyal or a slut who will sleep with anyone...

EDIT: oh, and SheZow seems to both ridicule the tropes of Golden Age female comics....while also utilizing aspects of Drag Queen culture (one bit i saw made much use of the term Glamazon, which IIRC was a term coined by RuPaul, to the point of it being a song/album by that person).

 

[Easton Dark]

Spoiler: No one was this upset when, on the same channel, Spike became Rainbow Dash

Why's everything an agenda? Even if the show was aimed at promoting stuff like crossdressing, it's not making children do it.

 

[Bindal]

Well, at least I can say that I might give the show a shot once it is on YT (as I don't live in the US, I can't get Hub. Plus, I don't think I used my TV to watch... well, TV with it for at least two years. Only movies and games.)

 

[Trishbot]

Meanwhile, in the 40s...

And 50s...

And 60s...

And 70s...

And 80s...

And the 90s...

And over at Japan...

And THIS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlH71V1LpNw

 

[luvd1]

A kid dressed as a girl is subversive? Kids cross dress as toddlers all the time, it doesn't mean anything. How ironic that the adults are acting like immature children. Grow up and stop acting silly.

 

[SwimmingRock]

And yet when Beast Boy or Ben Ten turns into different SPECIES nobody could gives a fuck.

Considering how often the rhetoric goes:"If we allow gay marriage, people will start marrying their dogs next" it honestly wouldn't surprise me if this becomes an issue someday. And that makes me very sad.

Also, I think Bob was joking when he claimed the gay agenda is communism, but I've had somebody tell me to my face and without the slightest hint of sarcasm that teaching children homosexuality is okay is socialism. I tried explaining to him that socialism has literally nothing to do with anyones sexual orientation, but it was a lost cause. So, yeah, you might actually be right, Bob.

I need a fucking drink now.

 

[Ukomba]

It's a funny premise, and I consider myself a brony so I'm hardly a hardliner on gender specific things... but then I look as Sweden. Poor F***ing Sweden.

- Side note: Villains are cooler anyways, especially in DC. Guys love a bad girl , and who doesn't love a good villain songs?

 

[Grabehn]

Sadly I kind of already knew about the character before it reach to the HUB network (the whole premise is such a easy target for the dark side of the internet much to my scaring eyes).

THIS Indeed, And there I was thinking it was some kind of character created by some guy from the internet... My eyes have seen way to much of this character to even be funny anymore...

Also, I think Bob was joking when he claimed the gay agenda is communism, but I've had somebody tell me to my face and without the slightest hint of sarcasm that teaching children homosexuality is okay is socialism. I tried explaining to him that socialism has literally nothing to do with anyones sexual orientation, but it was a lost cause. So, yeah, you might actually be right, Bob.

I need a fucking drink now.

He was, but reading that doesn't surprise me either, once I raised my hand when a teacher asked who was an atheist and overheard a girl saying (scared shitless btw)to the girl next to her that she was told atheists ate babies, funny anough another guy was raising his hand, but slowly started to lower it down. Oh boy was I surprised that people that stupid were even at a university, you know, where they're supposed to think a little, especially since it was a literature class, but that was another of my debunked thoughts.

 

[jaymiechan]

And THIS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlH71V1LpNw

Meanwhile, non-comedy positive trans* characters? i think Wandering Son is about it?

 

[Wil213]

Bring it to the UK, I'd watch that show! It sounds/looks brilliant!

Although the UK anti-gay [LGBT more generally]is a lot less vicious then in the US. From what I've seen anyway. We only get CNN here, least that the only news channel I know of that is in the UK. Not to say that we don't have homophobic people here 'cos we have a few.

That's my 2p anyway.

 

[Falseprophet]

Bob kinda glossed over the fact that LGBT issues, especially these days, tends to leave the B and T behind, as well as the concerns for LGBT youth, focusing purely on assimilation theory and gay marriage.

I hate to be....*that guy* advancing the flamewar, but would Bi groups need special attention? If they have a partner of the opposite gender, that's already socially accepted. It would only be if they tried to have a same-sex partner that they'd face any kind of discrimination, and that's what the 'L' and 'G' sections of the 'LGBT' movement are focusing on.

Within the QUILTBAG [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/QUILTBAG] community, many bisexuals feel they aren't considered a "true" orientation by their gay and lesbian brethren, e.g. the accusations that bi-men are actually gay men unwilling to admit they're actually gay, or that bi-women only exhibit bi-curious behaviour to appeal to men. Like most things involving human society, it's probably complicated: there probably are gay men and straight women who pretend to be bi, but that doesn't necessarily mean there aren't actual bisexuals.

I assume Bob left this out because to explain the issue with any justice would probably require a Big Picture episode to itself. His focus here was on the common enemy of QUILTBAG rights, the so-called "social conservatives", not the movement's internal issues. If you have 5 minutes to explain World War II, you'll probably focus on Axis vs. Allies. You probably wouldn't bring up, for examples, all the strife between Winston Churchill and Charles De Gaulle.

 

[kailus13]

Isn't Catwoman connected to Batman? Most of her character development seems to be to do with their relationship. I haven't actually heard of most of the other villains.

 

[Ukomba]

And yet when Beast Boy or Ben Ten turns into different SPECIES nobody could gives a fuck.

Have you not run into Anti-Furry stuff on the internet yet?

 

[RTR]

To be fair, The Hub is also a source for reruns of Animaniacs and Batman TAS. How can I say no to that?