When it comes to being insulting or offensive, what really matters is what people intend, rather than the specific words they use. Calling someone "black" or "ginger" can be offensive if it's meant in that way.Monxeroth said:Well its really only an insult once both parties intend it to be and takes it as one.MetalMagpie said:I've never really self-identified as being a "nerd"/"geek". During the time I was a socially-awkward teenager I only heard it used as an insult. By the time I started coming across "proud nerd" stuff, I'd gained confidence, lost weight, started taking part in sports and had a boyfriend. So I didn't see myself as fitting that stereotype any more anyway.
I still occasionally get called a "nerd" by friends/family, but only in a teasing way.
Sort of, not entirely but one does have some sort of a minor self responsibility to basically...not be offended so to speak. I mean if you go look for everything that could possibly offend autistic people or for example ones own social challange-condition then yeah you would very easily be offended and become a rather sad individual.
Instead i much more prefer to take it with a pinch of salt and bask in the fact that most people who would use said terms or any degrading term for that matter either has no understanding of knowledge of the definition or merits, and most likely are probably pushing down others to make themselves seem bigger and more powerful and the one winning move is not to play.
WOW! Okay, look I understand the show plays off tropes maybe abit to freely but I really don't understand the hate the internet has for it, hell evan those swanky mother lickers on the Idea Channel don't like it. I get that maybe its a little insincere but its not like they don't do some research and you know what I laughed at that Wil Wheaton episode.A3sir said:As long as you don't make the mistake of associating The Big Bang Theory with nerd culture. TBBT is to nerds as blackface is to African Americans.
Holy crap, someone older than me on the Escapist. I'd heard rumours they existed, but I...I never knew!ZZoMBiE13 said:I don't remember ever being called a nerd, though I can't remember a time when I didn't fit the mold of one.
I was also a metal head and that's where I got most of my jock hate circa 1986-1990.
Fortunately, those really aren't the only two options.M920CAIN said:I'm socially challenged, but I don't see myself as smart, so I guess I'm some kind of nerd hybrid, not fully qualified to be a nerd, but definitely not a jock either.
I've never really come across them as synonymous. There's certainly been some overlap, though.DVS BSTrD said:Wellll I have Asbergers so that's probably true. Kinda thought the two were synonymous already.
To be fair, this video itself points out that the nerd stereotypes that make Sheldon possibly autistic predate the concept of Aspergers as a recognised condition. Not necessarily the use of the word nerd to apply, but the stereotypes that would lead to it. Sheldon strikes me as a lot of nerd stereotypes or tropes kicked up to eleven for comedic effects. The overall effect may be similar to ASD, but that doesn't have to be the intent.Vausch said:Could be a tough call there. Sheldon on TBBT for example fits pretty much all the definitions of what makes somebody a high-functioning autistic or Aspergian (unsure of that's a word, sure I heard it somewhere) but Jim Parsons and Chuck Loore swear they had not heard of it before making the character.
People really need to back off the hyperbole on this one. The ERMHAGERD BLACKFACE thing is really over the top.A3sir said:As long as you don't make the mistake of associating The Big Bang Theory with nerd culture. TBBT is to nerds as blackface is to African Americans.
Those were my high school years whipper snapper.Zachary Amaranth said:Holy crap, someone older than me on the Escapist. I'd heard rumours they existed, but I...I never knew!ZZoMBiE13 said:I don't remember ever being called a nerd, though I can't remember a time when I didn't fit the mold of one.
I was also a metal head and that's where I got most of my jock hate circa 1986-1990.
(for frame of reference, I was barely tying my shoes in 1986...Or 1990, for that matter. It took me a while to get the loop thing down. >.>)
What would be the desired "use" of the term? The only people I've seen who try their damnedest to get an absolute definition on what a "nerd" is are the ones who want the definition solely so they know exactly who to exclude from the group. If having an absolute definition leads to only negative results, I don't see why it's something we should strive for.thisbymaster said:So the label of nerd or geek is on the same level as Art. It is whatever you want it to be. Making it also useless.
I love how you're willing to vilify TBBT for its "offensive" portrayal of nerds and comparing it to racism, while the character of Raj being an actual stereotypical and borderline racist portrayal of an Indian person totally flies under your radar.A3sir said:As long as you don't make the mistake of associating The Big Bang Theory with nerd culture. TBBT is to nerds as blackface is to African Americans.