The Big Picture: Junk Drawer Rises
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You never bothered to watch Young Justice or Teen Titans did you? Or perhaps any of the DC animated movies to come out in the last 7 years. They're generally not very well advertised, but you can easily pick them up in stores when they come out or on Amazon and they are almost always excellent.The Great JT said:
Glad I'm not the only one getting a little stunad with Batman. Me, I always preferred Superman, but even if you forced me to watch some Batman, I prefer Terry McGinnis over Bruce Wayne. At least Terry has more personality than a bag of dirt. He's hilarious. He's like Spiderman with all of Batman's gadgets.
As for the Mario vs. CoD debate, I agree with Bob here. Yeah, Mario games are always platformers, just like CoD is always an FPS series. The thing is, though, that every Mario game does something different with the platformer formula and just uses the basic Mario mechanics as a jumping-off point. CoD has been the same damn game for the last five years, and this is from someone who actually liked MW2 but thought WaW blew. At least Black Ops II looks to mix up the formula somewhat and has been the first one I've been genuinely excited about since CoD3, and I never even ended up playing CoD3.
You know why I think people see it the other way, though? Because FPSes are currently the genre. When someone says "it's an FPS," people'll ask "What kind of FPS?" If someone says "it's a platformer" these days, you'll hear shouts of "God, another one?" The current gaming culture is in FPSes, so people'll look closer than surface-deep. Since platformers are currently "one of those other genres," people'll see a platformer and won't care or wish to know anything other than "platformer." Especially Mario games. Yeah, goombas, koopas, ?-blocks, whatever. You wouldn't want a Half-Life game without headcrabs or a crowbar.
Point is: do a little research, people. NSMB2 is a score-attack game based on getting a whole lot of coins and all the mechanics have been retooled around having as many ways to get those coins as possible. NSMBU looks to trying to have the most dynamic, detailed environments in a 2D Mario since Yoshi's Island, plus we've got the whole GamePad implementation for asymmetric gameplay and speed-runs, as well as the return of the multiplayer focus from NSMBWii.
And as for the Zangief thing, I don't care. The fact that they're actually caring to get all these licenses in the first place is awesome. They could've just stopped at Bowser and Eggman, but they're doing characters from games even I'm not that knowledgeable about. I eagerly await Wreck-It Ralph, because it looks positively awesome. Plus you've got the guy who did Steve Brule from Tim & Eric as the main character and a character played by Sarah Silverman, so what's not to like?
As for the Mario vs. CoD debate, I agree with Bob here. Yeah, Mario games are always platformers, just like CoD is always an FPS series. The thing is, though, that every Mario game does something different with the platformer formula and just uses the basic Mario mechanics as a jumping-off point. CoD has been the same damn game for the last five years, and this is from someone who actually liked MW2 but thought WaW blew. At least Black Ops II looks to mix up the formula somewhat and has been the first one I've been genuinely excited about since CoD3, and I never even ended up playing CoD3.
You know why I think people see it the other way, though? Because FPSes are currently the genre. When someone says "it's an FPS," people'll ask "What kind of FPS?" If someone says "it's a platformer" these days, you'll hear shouts of "God, another one?" The current gaming culture is in FPSes, so people'll look closer than surface-deep. Since platformers are currently "one of those other genres," people'll see a platformer and won't care or wish to know anything other than "platformer." Especially Mario games. Yeah, goombas, koopas, ?-blocks, whatever. You wouldn't want a Half-Life game without headcrabs or a crowbar.
Point is: do a little research, people. NSMB2 is a score-attack game based on getting a whole lot of coins and all the mechanics have been retooled around having as many ways to get those coins as possible. NSMBU looks to trying to have the most dynamic, detailed environments in a 2D Mario since Yoshi's Island, plus we've got the whole GamePad implementation for asymmetric gameplay and speed-runs, as well as the return of the multiplayer focus from NSMBWii.
And as for the Zangief thing, I don't care. The fact that they're actually caring to get all these licenses in the first place is awesome. They could've just stopped at Bowser and Eggman, but they're doing characters from games even I'm not that knowledgeable about. I eagerly await Wreck-It Ralph, because it looks positively awesome. Plus you've got the guy who did Steve Brule from Tim & Eric as the main character and a character played by Sarah Silverman, so what's not to like?
This was taken from the wiki on Kryptonite where it says "Superman is shown to have become immune to the effects of green Kryptonite due to either repeated non-fatal exposure, continuous long-term absorption of solar radiation, or extremely high short-term exposure to the sun.Spot1990 said:
So Mario gets to exist for ages in marginally different games, but Batman, existing across several different media is enough, you must be joking 
(disclaimer, I am actually nto really excited for the new movie, but the point remains).
I also don't understand the hype for Wreck it Ralph, from what I can tell it looks to be an uninspired, standard story, but the 'twist' is it has some video game cameos? I'll wait before getting excited if you don't mind.
(disclaimer, I am actually nto really excited for the new movie, but the point remains).I also don't understand the hype for Wreck it Ralph, from what I can tell it looks to be an uninspired, standard story, but the 'twist' is it has some video game cameos? I'll wait before getting excited if you don't mind.
I do watch Young Justice, I used to watch Teen Titans and no, I haven't been paying too much attention to the various DC animated movies over the years. Mostly out of sheer laziness. I mean yes, there's something insanely awesome about Justice League: New Frontier, but I just never seem to scrounge up the coin for them. I think what I meant was that Justice League Unlimited was the last time something dealt solely with the day-to-day of the Justice League itself.shintakie10 said:
2D Mario games used to have a lot of variety back in the NES and SNES days. Now Nintendo is content with just releasing the same game over and over again. Once Nintendo actually does something different with Mario then I'll consider buying a WiiU.
The way I would put it is that DC focuses on "characters as symbols" while Marvel focuses on "characters as people", and whichever you prefer really just has to do with what you want to get out of your comic reading. I made the original post to illustrate that it's not the type or quality of characters that are the difference between the two worlds, though I will admit, that I find the symbolism to be one of the big advantages of comics, so I tend to prefer it. And of "characters as people" stories, Top 10 would probably be my favorite.Navvan said:
Zangief is generally played more as the gentle giant in the canonical Street Fighter when he isn't fighting.
Street Fighter Alpha 3 and in Street Fighter 2 he was sent in by Russia to stop Bison and the Shadaloo, which is actually heroic.
After SF2 he becomes a popular wrestler and joins the tournament in 4 to show his fans wrestling is just as badass as martial arts. Which is silly, but no villanous...
Not a villain in any way really...
Street Fighter Alpha 3 and in Street Fighter 2 he was sent in by Russia to stop Bison and the Shadaloo, which is actually heroic.
After SF2 he becomes a popular wrestler and joins the tournament in 4 to show his fans wrestling is just as badass as martial arts. Which is silly, but no villanous...
Not a villain in any way really...
1. I never played Street Fighter, so I don't care that Zangief is a "bad guy". I'm just amazed at all the cameos!
2. I'm with Bob on this one: at least the Mario games are (mostly) innovative, war shooters and sports games are the same damned thing over and over and over and over again!
3. Django Unchained: it may be controversial, but as a cynical white girl who despises the very notion of slavery, I'd watch it in a heartbeat, as weird as that sounds.
4. As much as I like Batman... I think he might need to take a break from movies/cartoons/games for a while, let's let someone else get the spotlight.
...And that's all I got.
2. I'm with Bob on this one: at least the Mario games are (mostly) innovative, war shooters and sports games are the same damned thing over and over and over and over again!
3. Django Unchained: it may be controversial, but as a cynical white girl who despises the very notion of slavery, I'd watch it in a heartbeat, as weird as that sounds.
4. As much as I like Batman... I think he might need to take a break from movies/cartoons/games for a while, let's let someone else get the spotlight.
...And that's all I got.
The reason the market is ever-saturated with Batman content is because NO-ONE has done it right yet...the closest we have ever come is Tim Burton's two attempts at the franchise, the first two seasons of The Animated Series, Arkham Asylum, and Sword of Azrael (in ascending order of Holy-Shit-Now-THAT-Is-Batman-ness...or, HSNTIBn). Until they get it right, the need to see more Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Gotham City will bubble under the surface and keep people buying.saintdane05 said:
(Notice I did NOT say Robin, Knightwing, or any of those other doozers)
.......ImmortalDrifter said:Gaz was cooler.Grimh said:Nobody ever brings up the greatest failing and betrayal of the Modern Warfare franchise.
They.Fucking.Killed.GHOST.
[sub]You will be remembered...[/sub]
I just can't bring myself to play another MW game after that...
The pain... It's just too much...
Damn you Infinity Ward... [small]Damn you...[/small]
That's your opinion and I respect that. But by god, I will sit here and stare at you disapprovingly for having it.
But.. But.. he's from Russia!The Deadpool said:
Seriously though, totally dead on.
Nit picking would be saying things like his shorts are the wrong shade of red, his chest hair doesn't have the right shape or he's left handed in the trailer but he's right handed in game. That's nit picking.
I somehow doubt the opinion expressed by Bob in this video would be the same if it was a similar situation in a Villains Anonymous type meeting set in a comic book universe movie. You've got Lex Luther, The Joker, Thanos, Loki and Galactus sitting around in a circle with our protagnist .. and the guy who gets the major speaking role in the scene is Batman. Or even, lets say, a more morally ambiguous character like Catwoman. Would it be nitpicking then to say that, just maybe, one of the major actually villainous characters they bothered to put in the scene should probably be the one speaking.. assuming you even accept that Batman or Catwoman should be there in the first place?
