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KingPiccolOwned

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shadowmagus said:
Great episode. Somethings I'm not entirely sure are feasible, but hey, it's your show so what do I care if I was entertained.

Seriously though, Glen Beck...rocket...moon. Let's make this happen.
I don't know, that could potentially backfire. Like if he gets picked up by some wandering Ferengi vessel, or something.
 

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Father Time said:
BgRdMchne said:
You are never going into space.
You will never own a jet pack.
Your car will never fly.
HIV will not be cured in your lifetime.
Cancer will not be cured in your lifetime.
The common cold will not be cured in your lifetime.
Don't these things bother you?
You don't know these things
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

- Mark Twain

Hope is the denial of reality.

- Margaret Weis
 

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Mantonio said:
The CURRENT problem with cultured meat is that it doesn't taste or feel like meat. Meat CURRENTLY only gets its taste and texture because the creature has had stuff like breathing, blood flow, exercise etc etc. It's be more like meat pudding.

Also, you may have noticed that it needs lab equipment to be made. How the hell are the people in Africa going to get that AS THINGS STAND AT THE MOMENT? And even if we in the first world use it, it won't end up in the massive surplus for the rest due to corporate interests. (See the entirety of the diamond industry)
Corrected this portion of your post...
Finally, it's not going to result in happier cows. Those farm animals are bred to be eaten, that is literally their purpose in life, and they have pretty cushy lives right up until they're slaughtered. If millions of meat and fish farmers were suddenly told '"Yeah, we're not using them anymore, we're growing meat in labs now" you think they'd just shrug and let the animals free? Hell no! They'd just kill them all so they don't lose astronomical amounts of money feeding the (now useless) things, and most will still probably go out of business and lose their homes as their livelihood becomes redundant.
Yes, there not be the need to have as many cows as there are now. There probably be as many as there are Bison still kicking around. Guess what animal rights supporters are fine with that....
 

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I've seen what cultured meet looks like right now. It's technically meat, but it's more of a liquidy extra squishy viscousy substance. It's still a few years away from being hamburgerable.

Also, a hamster the size of a bear would be awesome. Then everyone will see that Minsc wasn't crazy.
 

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As a biologist I think I'll take the cultured meat question.

Of course it is possible to create cultured meat that could be used instead of animals, but at present the technology has not been developed on an industrial scale. Currently the costs involved producing cultured meat are many many times that of producing meat normally.

Secondly the meat produced may look, smell and most crucially taste different from normal meat and just may not be palatable to most people. In addition the whole pointless furore over GM foods demonstrates how resistant people can be to what they see as science 'interfering' with food.
 

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Science was going to feed the world, and take us to space.... But then, Green Peace...
 

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for question one, it is because we had a revolution of information not energy, we can hold thousands of sound and image on a chip the size of a finger nail but cannot power it for more than a couple of hours while not connected to the mains. we still rely on fosul fuel and chemical batters for there to be any way of having a portable power supply for your jet pack. but if we keep working on necluar power maby some day

question 2, you need to ask a biologist

question 3, could work but it would be hard to hide it from private company or observver.

question 4, it would require us to kill all bears of a large size to decress there size over a long period of time, or use a shrink ray but for that we would need that power supply from question one.

there are my answers
 

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I will answer all 3 of these to the best of my knowledge with as few words as possible.

A) Why no Jet packs, Fly Car, and what not.

Answer: We have Jet backs, and we have flying cars (there called planes). See Jet packs are difficult to use as a flying requires much more skill then driving. Air is difficult to navigate and takes lots of skill and training to be able to perform safely. And even after all that, the numerous jet packs, and rocket powered wing suits that exist are still VERY dangerous. One mistake and you are dead, one pocket of thin air and you have a serious accident. Jet propulsion is not an efficient form of mass transit no matter how neat it might sound.

Why not grown meat?

Answer: It's not cost effective. They are working on it but the general issue is that the cost of growing an organ super out weighs the cost of raising cattle. Raising cattle is pretty cheap as they feed them selves, and what they eat is a renewable resource. The whole system is already in place, so why grow them? Its a fine idea if the science can make it cost effective which we are very far from.

Whats up with the human space program?

Answer: It's useless. And I'm serious, it's completely fucking useless. The only use is to mine asteroids which might be a profitable venture, which can be done by robots. Robots can handle all of our space travel needs at a fraction of the cost.
Now why is it useless? Because people in space is unnecessary and will always be unnecessary. Robots and AI are the key tools to space exploration, when it comes to deep space exploration we will first be sending robots who can do things like survive absolute zero, and 1000 year journeys to the nearest life harnessing planet. As far as physics is concerned faster then Light speed travel is impossible. So we have so pretty insane treks to the nearest life habitable star.
Tell me who was better for scientists, Spirit and Opportunity or Neil Armstrong? Spirit and Opportunity killed the human space program.

Why no small genetically altered bear pets.

Well we could, but we just don't. You could without fancy genetic experimentation, Down breed bears into small cute domesticated pets. But the issues that stand in the way are things like Bears being protected a species, and it not being cost effective. And the number of generations it would take would be quite staggering. See dogs have been domesticated over many years and they are ready to breed within a year of birth. Which makes domestication quite simple. That and wolves don't attack people, bears do.


Past that we have better things to solve before we can start on deep space exploration, like developing long lasting and reliable sources of energy, using genes to super evolve our species into something far beyond anything we could imagine, and continue to develop computer technologies so we can better facilitate every last aspect of our existence.
 

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I'm a bit confused now, could someone help me out here?
This episode was an ironic jab at all the people who have no idea what they're talking about demanding "science" (as if there's some sort of homogenous group of "scientists") to do completely uneconomic, wasteful and downright unreasonable things, yes? This wasn't actually serious, yes? Because I'm not too sure anymore.
 

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rhizhim said:
KingPiccolOwned said:
Nicolaus99 said:
Google "Frankenfood". Good luck marketing THAT to people or convincing a grocery store to stock it. You think "Corn Sugar" creates a backlash? Wait till you wheel out the vat meat. Never mind the cost per pound to produce vat meat vs the same for real meat.
He already did, and made a video about it. I suggest that you check his archives.
yes but he didn't really do a proper research why people are scared about it and how it affects farmers..

you dont have a jetpack because it is ridiculously resource consuming. you waste 30 litres of liquid hydrogen-liquid oxygen only to be able to 'fly' for 30 seconds. and we don't have big enough and strong tanks that could compress huge ammounts of fuel. we are juststarting to find new ways to propell an object. and btw its like driving on a rock.

a proper meat alternative would not be meat from the tank (played to much project eden, eh?)
it would be grinded insects compressed to blocks like tofu.
and about the animal rights groups. 70% of them are scams or just hot air (peta)

and about the space program. it would be good to have some spaceships on our lawn just to scare off to other species that might try to invade.
but people just want to waste resources on new Cellphones and TV's.

also this is how people view science today:


help humanity by experimenting and observing for long periods of time with the risk that you might find out that your lifes work was to prove your own theory wrong.

OR

get a huge ammount of cash by being a dick on tv, getting constantly laid and be remembered as the dude that totally laid so much chicks and filmed it on his new cell phone that some nerd (who cares) invented.

and newsfash: science takes time and is hard to do. so please respect our scientist (well just the serious ones) and say thank you once in a while whenever you can plug a micro usb cord in your cellphone to recharge it. they speeded up since 1900 and they are not the ones that made false promisses.
... All I said was that he made a video about it, not that it was necessarily right.
 

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Gluzzbung said:
Hate to say it, but the reason we're still on Earth is because any type of bacteria on another planet would kill everyone it touched, most likely.
no its not, not at all. think space suit. and then think about getting to those planets. and rethink what you just said.
 

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I went into that thinking you'd finally done another big picture, literally figuratively, and oh how glad I am I was wrong. That was hilarious, thank you. Also, loved the oil idea, they should really get on that!
Oh, and Bob (and everyone else), you're welcome:
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Mantonio said:
The problem with cultured meat is that it doesn't taste or feel like meat. Meat only gets its taste and texture because the creature has had stuff like breathing, blood flow, exercise etc etc. It's be more like meat pudding.
Yep, that's also what I've heard (biotech BSc student). Cultured meat is basically an artificial tumor, its not very nice to eat. So that's why we don't have it yet. Yet. We'll get there soon.
 

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While the video was humorous to someone who pretty much knows the answers to most of your questions I feel like it might give 'Those People' the wrong idea about who is at fault when it comes to scientific research and discovery.

All science research these days comes down to funding and funding comes from greedy jerkbags who want to get rich on science discovery. Want to know who to blame? People with money and people who administer money; Not scientists. Ask your federal government WTF they pulled funding from NASA and why a mission to Mars is not important.

Better yet perhaps we should ask why basic logic and reasoning is not a course kids take in grade 1.