The closest thing to a Zero Punctuation game is here. A kickass LittleBigPlanet level based on it.

[Weapon_Master_Jedi]

You can not wipe away and ignore hundreds of years of a terrible history because the ramifications upset your delicate sensibilities and ideas of fair. You can argue that is how things should be, but it is not, I'm afraid, how things are in reality, where "fair" and "simple takes" rarely, if ever, actually apply.

So because things are not as they should be, we shouldn't try to make it so? We should ignore the way things ought to be done, just because of a bunch of stupid, ignorant people who took a word, turned it into a belittling racial epithet?

The fact of the matter is, if YOU had done your homework - ****** (and I will use that word because I mean nothing by it, and it is racist of anybody to assume that I'm demeaning any of my friends with a different skin tone than I have) derives from the word niggard. Which means someone who is cheap, or ungenerous. Now, a bunch of stupid people a few hundred years ago decided it was funny to apply this word to black people because it is similar in its pronunciation to the word 'negro,' which is Latin for the color black.

I have white friends who use the word ******, but they don't use it specifically for black people. They use it to demean those who are stupid or ignorant, regardless of their color or ethnic history. So go ahead and rant about how its connotation is demeaning toward Black people. It's your right as an American. I won't stop you. But I WILL say that you need to realize not everyone who uses it thinks about it the same way.

Maybe if we start to understand each other's points of view, we can work together to build a better world for every-- wait, this is sounding a lot like something Yahtzee once said.

What?! Dude, "******" does NOT come from the word "niggard"--the two are completely separate etymologically. "******" comes from the French "negre," which was itself from the Spanish "negro," "black." And was a slur from the get-go in French, since the word for "black" in French is "noir."

"Niggard," on the other hand, is Middle English (originally "nyggard") and from the Scandinavian "nygg," meaning "stingy."

"******" and "niggard" have not been and are not in any way, shape, or form etymologically related to each other. AT ALL. YOU ARE WRONG, and it is in caps so you get it. Go look up both words in a dictionary and read the origins of the word.

There is a lot you need to learn about a lot more than you think.

So because the one source you checked disagrees with me, that makes me wrong? I have looked up both words, and my source disagrees with you. So I guess then that gives me the right to do this. They are related. COMPLETELY. YOU ARE WRONG.

Huh. Somehow I thought that would be satisfying. I guess talking to a self-righteous prick who doesn't have anything better to do than repeatedly disagree with common sense never leads to satisfying results. *shrugs* Oh well. I suppose the big reason I'm not satisfied is that I know that you won't get it. Neither of us is completely right or wrong. The words did derive from the same origins. You just don't check back far enough. 'S the funny thing about etymology. It's hard to look back too terribly far. So ultimately, we'll both end up thinking we're right and the other guy's wrong. It's one of the big things about humanity. We're arrogant.

So instead of continuing to argue this useless point, let's just agree that racism is stupid, and that those who believe in it aren't worth our time.

 

[yeah_so_no]

You can not wipe away and ignore hundreds of years of a terrible history because the ramifications upset your delicate sensibilities and ideas of fair. You can argue that is how things should be, but it is not, I'm afraid, how things are in reality, where "fair" and "simple takes" rarely, if ever, actually apply.

So because things are not as they should be, we shouldn't try to make it so? We should ignore the way things ought to be done, just because of a bunch of stupid, ignorant people who took a word, turned it into a belittling racial epithet?

The fact of the matter is, if YOU had done your homework - ****** (and I will use that word because I mean nothing by it, and it is racist of anybody to assume that I'm demeaning any of my friends with a different skin tone than I have) derives from the word niggard. Which means someone who is cheap, or ungenerous. Now, a bunch of stupid people a few hundred years ago decided it was funny to apply this word to black people because it is similar in its pronunciation to the word 'negro,' which is Latin for the color black.

I have white friends who use the word ******, but they don't use it specifically for black people. They use it to demean those who are stupid or ignorant, regardless of their color or ethnic history. So go ahead and rant about how its connotation is demeaning toward Black people. It's your right as an American. I won't stop you. But I WILL say that you need to realize not everyone who uses it thinks about it the same way.

Maybe if we start to understand each other's points of view, we can work together to build a better world for every-- wait, this is sounding a lot like something Yahtzee once said.

What?! Dude, "******" does NOT come from the word "niggard"--the two are completely separate etymologically. "******" comes from the French "negre," which was itself from the Spanish "negro," "black." And was a slur from the get-go in French, since the word for "black" in French is "noir."

"Niggard," on the other hand, is Middle English (originally "nyggard") and from the Scandinavian "nygg," meaning "stingy."

"******" and "niggard" have not been and are not in any way, shape, or form etymologically related to each other. AT ALL. YOU ARE WRONG, and it is in caps so you get it. Go look up both words in a dictionary and read the origins of the word.

There is a lot you need to learn about a lot more than you think.

So because the one source you checked disagrees with me, that makes me wrong? I have looked up both words, and my source disagrees with you. So I guess then that gives me the right to do this. They are related. COMPLETELY. YOU ARE WRONG.

Huh. Somehow I thought that would be satisfying. I guess talking to a self-righteous prick who doesn't have anything better to do than repeatedly disagree with common sense never leads to satisfying results. *shrugs* Oh well. I suppose the big reason I'm not satisfied is that I know that you won't get it. Neither of us is completely right or wrong. The words did derive from the same origins. You just don't check back far enough. 'S the funny thing about etymology. It's hard to look back too terribly far. So ultimately, we'll both end up thinking we're right and the other guy's wrong. It's one of the big things about humanity. We're arrogant.

So instead of continuing to argue this useless point, let's just agree that racism is stupid, and that those who believe in it aren't worth our time.

I want your sources. Back your 'sources' up, because I have not seen a single one that agrees with you. EVER.

Here are my online ones:
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-nig1.htm <--I think a guy working for the BBC with published dictionary and who has published on word origins and disappearing words would count as an expert, m'self.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/******.htm <--first chapter on a book about the word, "******: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word"
http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=niggard&search=search <--note the many, many dictionaries it pulls from, including, most importantly, the Online Etymology Dictionary
http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=******&search=search
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggard <--word origin plus controversies because people mistakenly thought the words were related
http://www.amazon.com/reader/0547053495?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_dp_pt#reader <--page 10 of the book "The N Word"

Racism is stupid, but ignoring facts because they don't agree with what you've decided on is as well. But go on, continue to be loud and wrong and belabor your point.

 

[Aris Katsaris]

IF I called your daughter princess, or wife darling, it might be innapropriate. But would I lose my job, be labeled a racist, and maybe be tried for hate crimes? No?

Yes, actually, you might end up losing your job for sexual harassment - and in a perfect world you would lose it for being demeaning/insulting towards coworkers anyways. As for "tried for hate crimes" nobody is putting you on trial here, and nobody was tried for hate crimes for the mere fact of insulting someone else. Perhaps you despise the fact that if you MURDER black people while calling them racial epithets you might be thought to be hating them racially, for some bizarre reason.

In short you're arguing in favor of the privilege of being a racist ass anonymously in the Internet, just because you feel your race doesn't have enough privilege anymore in America to be racist openly. That fails to get that much sympathy from me.

Right now, people don't have equal rights. I am not just talking about whites above blacks, but blacks above everyone.

The relative societal standing of the races can be determined relatively easily by both financial and political measurements. White people still have 8 out 9 seats in the Supreme Court. There are 3 Hispanic and 0 black senators. Oprah is the only black billionaire out there it seems. So forth, so forth.

Personally I find it a valid and helpful term - I use it to describe the sort of black-guy who not only encourages negative racial stereotypes against black people, but seems to thrive in it.

You remind me of one of the Freakonomics chapters which recorded a crack-dealer saying to (a likewise black) researcher from a university. "I'm not black. I'm not African-American, either, you idiot. I'm a n-----".

You may like the idea of using shorthands to describe living negative stereotypes -- but how is that really "helpful", if nobody understands what you mean except the people that know you already? Words are supposed to be about communication, communication is about meaning, meaning is about context. And right now the contextual meaning of the word "******" when a white person is using it tends to be not so much "he's referring to someone who's a walking negative stereotype of his race" and more "he's attacking all black people".

This whole thread seems to me more like what I read someone else describe it: Kids getting a perverse enjoyment out of using a "forbidden word" - but all the kids here use different justifications: you as a useful shorthand to describe particular negative stereotypes. Halfbreed: out of anger at perceived inequality against whites. Weapon_master_jedi is attempting to make a bizarre (and utterly false) etymological argument in order to apply the word against people of all races.

 

[Halfbreed13]

IF I called your daughter princess, or wife darling, it might be innapropriate. But would I lose my job, be labeled a racist, and maybe be tried for hate crimes? No?

Yes, actually, you might end up losing your job for sexual harassment - and in a perfect world you would lose it for being demeaning/insulting towards coworkers anyways. As for "tried for hate crimes" nobody is putting you on trial here, and nobody was tried for hate crimes for the mere fact of insulting someone else. Perhaps you despise the fact that if you MURDER black people while calling them racial epithets you might be thought to be hating them racially, for some bizarre reason.

In short you're arguing in favor of the privilege of being a racist ass anonymously in the Internet, just because you feel your race doesn't have enough privilege anymore in America to be racist openly. That fails to get that much sympathy from me.

Right now, people don't have equal rights. I am not just talking about whites above blacks, but blacks above everyone.

The relative societal standing of the races can be determined relatively easily by both financial and political measurements. White people still have 8 out 9 seats in the Supreme Court. There are 3 Hispanic and 0 black senators. Oprah is the only black billionaire out there it seems. So forth, so forth.

Yet you have Black History Month. You have Afriican American only beauty pagents. YOu have tons of separation still, but what if whites went back to having white only competitions?
I am not saying that Black people are going to enslave us whiteys now. I am saying that it sure isn't.

 

[Mackinator]

For what it's worth, I muted you around the "doing sexual things to children" part.

He starts talking about loving killing black people, that video should be banned.

 

[beethy]

For what it's worth, I muted you around the "doing sexual things to children" part.

He starts talking about loving killing black people, that video should be banned.

I just came home from a long night to see this right away. I let out a tired little giggle.
Jokes dude. I do nothing but joke.
If you'd meet me in real life you'd find me to be pretty nice guy.
I enjoy hanging out with anyone from any background.
I just like poking fun at subjects which are sensitive to people.
No harm intended.

 

[Aris Katsaris]

Yet you have Black History Month.

I don't, actually, I'm a white Greek guy. And what about "black history month"? White Americans have Columbus Day about a white guy discovering the natives, and Independence Day, which is about some white people fighting some other white people, while keeping black people in chains. All your money has white presidents on it,

You have African American only beauty pagents. You have tons of separation still, but what if whites went back to having white only competitions?

Minorities, not only in America but everywhere -- Arabs in France, and Turks in Germany and Albanians in Greece -- also have reactionary segregationist elements themselves. I'll never deny that.

But there's a difference between a majority being segregationist, and a minority being segregationist. The difference is this: The segregationist majority mainly hurts the minority. The segrationist minority MAINLY HURTS ITSELF.

You can see easily how that works via analogy. If my white family has a huge mansion, and your black family has a tiny one-room apartment -- and there's the integrationist idea floating that both families should have access to both buildings.

If my white family opposes this, it loses only the black family's tiny apartment.
If the black family opposes this, it loses the white family's mansion.

So, yeah, black racism does exist. BUT IT MAINLY HURTS BLACK PEOPLE.

There's the basic difference between white racism and black racism.

 

[Mackinator]

No harm intended.

Thats alright then.

 

[Overlord_Dave]

I know this has already been posted a hundred times, but that bloke just wasn't funny.

 

[smithy1234]

How in hell did this turn into a discussion on race issues in the modern era???

 

[Aris Katsaris]

In short? In his video review, guy pretended to be racist pedophiliac that wondered how fun it'd be to kill "niggers". Discussion kinda grew from there.

 

[Weapon_Master_Jedi]

No. I don't think I will. You'll continue to shout your own opinion and claim that just because your information features sources that aren't incorrect, that means that no other information can be correct.

But remember this. Both French and Middle English do have similar influences, being so very close, geologically speaking, and both having once been occupied by the Roman Empire.

 

[shadow skill]

That is pretty neat.

 

[Darkblaven]

If only I had a PS3 to play LBP.

 

[True Nero]

few things.

1. i had to turn off the audio after about one minute.

2. the level looks very nice none the less

3. someone has either a) waaaaaaaay to much free time on their hands. or b) no social life what-so-ever

 

[beethy]

few things.

1. i had to turn off the audio after about one minute.

2. the level looks very nice none the less

3. someone has either a) waaaaaaaay to much free time on their hands. or b) no social life what-so-ever

your name is true nero

 

[hooooooch]

I personally really enjoyed the vid, including the commentary. Some things were a bit dark but I guess it requires a certain sense of humour to fully enjoy it. I will watch some other of your reviews soon beethy.

Great job!

-hooch

 

[ssgt splatter]

Cool level, annoying person.