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FallToYourDeath

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Leorex said:
Kiereek said:
Leorex said:
we americans would, in the event of a zombie out break, would wait to see if you guys could handle it, then when you cant. we would come in to save the day. as evidenced in ww2

by the way zombies are getting old.
pretty sure you entered when the war was already turning around.....and the Soviets totally won WWII. the casulties show who did most of the fighing. USA 400,000. USSR 20,000,000
that just shows who was better at the war.
You are so wrong....
 

Supernaut565

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Really the Queen doesn't really have any power anymore so I doubt she could force us to do anything but yeah I think we would help each other if a war broke out. Also about the zombies there is a good chance there won't be anything bad happening to us Canadians because nothing bad ever happens to us. I always laugh when in disaster movies it shows all these land marks or city's being destroyed around the world by Zombies or Aliens or meteors Canada is always fine.
 

Therumancer

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The Madman said:
Therumancer said:
Oh, pretty much having Canadians make snide anti-American comments every time the door is even remotely opened. In general Americans don't go around bashing Canada for the sake of bashing Canada, but Canadians do it to America. I also very much understand the idea of teasing.
I wasn't planning on commenting here, but whaaaaaaa? Seriously?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKlFT58Zwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFQs9sVvujE

That's the largest American broadcasting network. Not just that either, read the comments on those, the related video's, everything.

The differance of course being in the "little details" like Canada basically deciding to withdraw from The War On Terror simply because it was becoming a strain. OMG war isn't pleasant, and puts a strain on the countries involved. What a news flash.

Yes they were being sarcastic, but think about it. The basic facts are true and not unreasonable.

In comparison a lot of the US bashing "caused by Bush" is totally misinformed down to the basic premise, and ultimatly rooted in selfishness. Basically the equivilent of peturbed children being upset with their parents for making them do the right thing, or scolding
them.

Hence my points about the illegal trade.

Take the Kiwis (New Zealanders) as an example. They are all POed because the War On Terror has made the region more dangerous for them, and interfered with their trade. At least they are more or less honest about it though. To use my child analogy, I think a spanking might be in order there (Lol).

Canada has a lot of the same kinds of issues when you get down to it, they just try and not be as overt. This touches on other subjects like earlier discussions about Canada being added to an international piracy watch list. "We take whatever we want, and pay whatever we feel like for it", not to mention some of their trade with China and how it all works out (which is what I think the piracy watch list was actually about).

In keeping with their "whatever is good for Canada in the short term" motif, Canada doubtlessly wants to pull out of The Middle East both for the benefit of their other allies who want to go back to trading in the region irregardless of policies, and also so hopefully they will be viewed better when/if they start trading. Basically the idea being to abandon the US since the going is paticularly rough/unpleasant on that front in pursuit of short term gains.

So of course Canada going "meh, we'd like to cut and run" isn't going to lead to a lot of popularity.

Is Canada still an ally, of course, but that doesn't mean we have to approve of their current behavior, and given what they are doing (or trying to do) it only makes sense that we consider them considerably less reliable and thus treat them with less favortism.

Attacking America seems to be sort of a reaction born of trying to justify Canada's actions.


At any rate, this has gone on for a while, and we're mostly just retreading Canada while going far afield of the original subject due to one line I wrote with a smiley due to pointing out I have been picking back at Canada in other posts. This shall be my last post on the subject. I'm sure we'll wind up argueing/debating/discussing in other threads, perhaps on the same subject eventually.

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Mychas

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Do you guys think that we could get this topic back on track?

ANYWAY, since I didn't put my opinions in the original post(so it would seem more professional)
I believe that the countries would aid each other in some way, even if it wasn't by actually going to war, I would at least expect the others to accept refugees and whatnot, as well as trying not to help the enemy.
 

BlackHat

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The queen is the equilivent of the american "commander and chief" (a term they nicked from us but nm) if she wants to go to war she goes to war and i'm almost certain she would shes as tuff as iron when she wants to be

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
 

Mychas

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BlackHat said:
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Amen to that, but can I be the next queen king please...

Anyway, seems this thread has died since the whole WW2 thing stopped, what do you people not want to share you opinion on this matter. I thought that it would generate some interesting conversation.
 

The Madman

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Therumancer said:
The differance of course being in the "little details" like Canada basically deciding to withdraw from The War On Terror simply because it was becoming a strain. OMG war isn't pleasant, and puts a strain on the countries involved. What a news flash.

Yes they were being sarcastic, but think about it. The basic facts are true and not unreasonable.

In comparison a lot of the US bashing "caused by Bush" is totally misinformed down to the basic premise, and ultimatly rooted in selfishness. Basically the equivilent of peturbed children being upset with their parents for making them do the right thing, or scolding
them.

Hence my points about the illegal trade.

Take the Kiwis (New Zealanders) as an example. They are all POed because the War On Terror has made the region more dangerous for them, and interfered with their trade. At least they are more or less honest about it though. To use my child analogy, I think a spanking might be in order there (Lol).

Canada has a lot of the same kinds of issues when you get down to it, they just try and not be as overt. This touches on other subjects like earlier discussions about Canada being added to an international piracy watch list. "We take whatever we want, and pay whatever we feel like for it", not to mention some of their trade with China and how it all works out (which is what I think the piracy watch list was actually about).

In keeping with their "whatever is good for Canada in the short term" motif, Canada doubtlessly wants to pull out of The Middle East both for the benefit of their other allies who want to go back to trading in the region irregardless of policies, and also so hopefully they will be viewed better when/if they start trading. Basically the idea being to abandon the US since the going is paticularly rough/unpleasant on that front in pursuit of short term gains.

So of course Canada going "meh, we'd like to cut and run" isn't going to lead to a lot of popularity.

Is Canada still an ally, of course, but that doesn't mean we have to approve of their current behavior, and given what they are doing (or trying to do) it only makes sense that we consider them considerably less reliable and thus treat them with less favortism.

Attacking America seems to be sort of a reaction born of trying to justify Canada's actions.

At any rate, this has gone on for a while, and we're mostly just retreading Canada while going far afield of the original subject due to one line I wrote with a smiley due to pointing out I have been picking back at Canada in other posts. This shall be my last post on the subject. I'm sure we'll wind up argueing/debating/discussing in other threads, perhaps on the same subject eventually.
Canada isn't pulling its military out at all, you are clearly misinformed. Not terribly surprising, but depressing none the less since I had you picked for more intelligent than that.

Canada has actually extended its mission in Afghanistan until at the least 2011 and has been deploying more troops than ever, with over a hundred casualties now. The controversy those bumbling twits I linked to were talking about was a debate in the Canadian government where many leaders wanted to pull out because they felt Canada was bearing too much of the military burden in Afghanistan with Canada being one of the few nations to put its full military into high-risk combat roles, as opposed to many other nations who's contributions were only under the agreement their soldiers would be used for low risk scenario in relatively secure areas. Yeah, you read that right! However Canada's request was granted when the US put more military into action in Afghanistan and because of that, Canada is extending it's role in Afghanistan.

The 'controversy' you and your FOX friends are babbling about was an offhand recommendation by a Canadian general which was dismissed by the Canadian government as impossible, for for some reason found its way into American media where for some unknown reason they took it as fact. Don't believe me?

http://www.afghanistan.gc.ca/canada-afghanistan/index.aspx?lang=en

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_role_in_the_invasion_of_Afghanistan

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/02/10/f-afghanistan.html

Educate yourself. Be smart.

And what the blazes does any of this have to do with 'illegal trade'? You ARE aware that Canada is America's biggest trade partner and so forth? Always has been. Both our economy are completely dependent on one another. Or is this about the software piracy thing, because that has nothing to do with anything and also another bit of misinformation in the US. Selling copies of media is still just as illegal here as anywhere else. However the court decided that pursuing a course where everyone who downloads a song for personal use is classified as a crime would be a waste of police resources and a general waste of time since it would be an impossible law to enforce anyway. Distribution? Illegal. Personal use? Immoral, but not worth wasting the polices time with.

I'm sorry, but your entire post is filled with such misinformation that I'm forced to reply. Learn more and maybe you can help break the stereotype of 'ignorant Americans'. Doesn't matter if you reply or not, but at least read this and learn.