The difference between Wii & PS2 graphics?

[baseracer]

I thought wii games looked bad because a lot of games are rushed pieces of shit trying to hope a 40 year old mom will buy it.

Brawl looks great because there was actual time put into the game, same with Super Mario Galaxy.

 

[300lb. Samoan]

The Wii is essentially a repackaged Game-Cube, including the same graphics system. Granted, it's an excellent repackaging incorporating lots of excellent features, but graphical updates weren't in the deck when the Wii was developed. Graphically, the Wii was never intended to be 'next-gen', so it makes sense that it would be comparable to the PS2.

This is false. As I stated above, the Wii is about twice as powerful as the GCN.

It's just that the GCN was more powerful than people expected.

Twilight Princess was developed on and for GCN.

According to this source [http://wii.ign.com/articles/699/699118p1.html], the Wii's Hollywood GPU is clocked approximately twice as fast as the Flipper GPU from GCN, but does not include any additional shader support. So it seems it is a similar graphics system with enhanced performance, and streamlined as part of a multi-chip module. From the screen shot comparisons I've seen (none directly equivalent) the Wii's games only benefit from improvements in software engine technology and games making use of the additional horsepower. In short, it's a souped up Game-Cube. But not the kind of 'next-gen' advancement you'd find between iterations of XBox or Playstation, because that was never Nintendo's intent.

It's valid to note that the source refers to pre-release information about the "Revolution" (Wii's development code name), but the information came from pre-release software developers so the information most likely reflects what is available in the current product.

 

[300lb. Samoan]

:snippedy snip:

Wow, that is some marked improvement, but mostly it's the result of higher output resolution. The higher clock-rate and more powerful CPU would also allow for the hi-rez textures, which look really nice. And Mario on the Wii looks like he has a touch of SSAO! Impressive stuff, very nice looking!

For my money, I always prefer that developers pay more attention to good texturing and lighting than coating everything in exaggerated normal-maps. And for that matter, I'll take great game play over good graphics any day of the week.

 

[Bloody Crimson]

I have to formally disagree. The games I've got for PS2 are equal to or lesser than the Wii.
Examples:
SSBB has some very nice or at least decent graphics.
Super Mario Galaxy has tremendous graphics.

I'm not saying that the PS2 has terrible graphics or that it sucks, I'm just saying there are reasons the Wii is a next-gen console, one of them is improved grahpics.

See, if you said PS2 to GameCube I'd understand.

 

[dont_blink]

wii was aimed at children
doesnt need good graphics

look at the ghostbusters game if you want proof...

 

[reg42]

I think the idea was to go for cheaper hardware, to appeal to a bigger audience. It seems to have worked thus far. That's just what I'm lead to believe, I don't actually own a Wii.

 

[Hiphophippo]

Is this how we judge games? On graphical merit?

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Gamecube had more graphical power for most types of games than the PS2. If you can't see why something like Mario Galaxy or Zack & Wiki couldn't be done the same way on the PS2 then, to be frank, you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[NickCaligo42]

:snippedy snip:

Wow, that is some marked improvement, but mostly it's the result of higher output resolution. The higher clock-rate and more powerful CPU would also allow for the hi-rez textures, which look really nice. And Mario on the Wii looks like he has a touch of SSAO! Impressive stuff, very nice looking!

For my money, I always prefer that developers pay more attention to good texturing and lighting than coating everything in exaggerated normal-maps. And for that matter, I'll take great game play over good graphics any day of the week.

Oh, for sure. RE4 on the Wii may be a port, but I didn't feel like it needed to look any better anyway; good-looking games have less to do with the technology and more to do with how you use it, and both sides of the technological divide have wonderful-looking titles. I was just trying to answer the questions at hand.

 

[Tharwen]

The way I think of it is that Nintendo developed sideways (more features) and Sony and Microsoft developed upwards (better graphics and power) in an increasingly spectacular muscle competition. This is why Wii exclusives are better than ports from other consoles. The Wii exclusives are designed with the Wii's features integrated into the game, and the Wii can't take the graphics on the ports, so these games lose their primary appeal.

 

[pwnzerstick]

Wait, so only now after several years people are noticing?

 

[DustyDrB]

The graphics look fine to me. I've never had a problem reading words on the Wii. Can't say that with my 360.

 

[Jazoni89]

lets break it down to some tech specs

Ps2
Graphics: 147 MHz
CPU: 295 MHz (launch model) 299 MHz (slim model)

Wii
Graphics: 243 MHz
CPU: 729 MHz

Well the wii is the clear winner it blows the ps2 proccesing speed clear out of the water and has almost 100MHz more GPU than ps2. But compare it to say ps3 however is a much different story

Ps3
Graphics: 550 MHz
CPU: 3.2 GHz

The ps3 has more than double the graphic power and has three times more proccesing speed than that of the Wii. Making the wii seems like pretty ancient tech in comparison.

Now comparing the wii to the gamecube makes it ring true about it being a gamecube with a little extra power

Gamecube
Graphics: 162 MHz
CPU: 486 MHz

I think you can tell alot about a console with the tech specs.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I actually think that the PS2 has better graphics. I mean...

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is undeniably better than

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[CaptainCliche]

Nintendo go through a cycle of Innovate then improve. eg.

NES-Innovate.
SNES-Improve.
N64-Innovate.
Gamecube-improve.
Wii-Innovate.
???-Improve.

Same can be said for their hand held consoles.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

Wii does look slightly better.
But I'd say overall the PS2 was the better console (at least during its time.)

 

[Altorin]

The Wii's Graphics are a stepup from the Gamecube, so that's all that really matters. Nintendo's already proven they don't have to compete with the "big boys" to beat their asses.