THE EARTH IS ROUND!!!

[Zack Alklazaris]

Since there are so many threads aggressively stating the obvious like sexism or rape is bad, I thought I would start my own.

The Earth is spherical you bastards! Read a book!

Bullshit the Earth is flat.

The internet says its flat so it must be true
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

 

[Fasckira]

I think you are mistaken.

The world is circular but flat, carried on the heads of Elephants riding on the back of a Tortoise.

Turtle. A giant star turtle or, to be posh, "chelys galactica". Possibly male.

I'm delighted however to see such a post however - +1 internets to you, sir.

 

[MetalMagpie]

Please let a flat-earther appear. Please let a flat-earther appear. Please let a flat-earther appear.

I hear if you say their name three times while standing in front of a mirror, then turn off the light...


Moving on.

The world is resting on the back of a giant turtle, who is in turn resting on the back of another turtle, and then it's turtles all the way down.

 

[Smeatza]

The earth isn't a true oblate spheroid, hehe.

I have some discussion value, actually.

It involves Issac Asimov and evolution.

Some have asserted that, since science has been wrong before (say, about physics, like with Issac Newton), that science will continue to be wrong, and as such should not trust science when it shows that evolution exists and is happening right this second.


Tl;dr version, though I really do suggest watching the video, because it's fantastic: Issac refutes this with an analogy about the Earth being round. Science first thought that the Earth was flat. It then found that the Earth was round, so science was, strictly-speaking, 'wrong' at first. It was then found that the Earth was not truly round, but actually an oblate spheroid. Again, science was wrong, technically, but it was *less-wrong.* It was refined to be closer to the truth.

Later, it was found that the Earth as a whole wasn't actually an oblate spheroid, and that, by a very tiny amount, the Earth is wider in the bottom half than it is on the top half, making it very slightly pear-shaped. The science wasn't so much 'wrong' as it was 'incomplete,' and so while science may have some small errors in its understanding of evolution, we know enough now that there will almost-certainly never be something that overturns it, but simply refines it.

Actually it's a fallacy that there was once common thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

 

[Turiski]

No, dammit, the world is a cube [http://www.timecube.com/]. If you're going to state the obvious, at least get your facts right! Sheesh.

[small]Disclaimer: by clicking on that link, you agree not to accuse this poster of damaging your sanity, IQ, brain, eyes, forehead, walls or whatever other damage you or your surroundings suffer due to the contents of the link.[/small]

Oh, you think it's SO FUNNY, don't you.

Well let Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human, school you hard. You say the earth is round? Then how do you respond to this? "The eyes of the flounder fish were relocated, why were yours relocated? you think Education is for primary purpose Subject matter? You are educated singularity stupid by academic bastards. To ignore the 4 days is EVIL. Americans are so dumb, educated stupid and evil, they have snot for brain."

You might think you're one of the big ole boys that make the world go round. But rest assured, the Time Cube Principle will continue.

Who's funny now, a*****e?

For full effect, you have to read it out loud. It's like poetry.

EDIT: This man, for one, understands the beauty of Time Cube. The words of Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human are indeed poetic. Almost lyrical, really.

 

[Altorin]

the earth isn't spherical. It's actually very slightly pear shaped. No joke. It's cause of its rotation and the tidal forces of the moon

 

[Xaio30]

No, dammit, the world is a cube [http://www.timecube.com/]. If you're going to state the obvious, at least get your facts right! Sheesh.

[small]Disclaimer: by clicking on that link, you agree not to accuse this poster of damaging your sanity, IQ, brain, eyes, forehead, walls or whatever other damage you or your surroundings suffer due to the contents of the link.[/small]

Seriously WTF? I've heard of Time Cube before but I didn't realise it was so mental

It is said that if you stare intently at those words, turn off the music and other sounds, then listen closely...you can hear yourself screaming for mercy.

I think my neighbors heard me scream for mercy.
Pages like that is why we can't have nice things.

 

[chadachada123]

Actually it's a fallacy that there was once common thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Ah, but the myth is only that they thought that the Earth was flat during Columbus's time, which is not at all what I said.

I didn't specify when humans discovered that the Earth was round, but I absolutely knew it was during ancient Greek times, well before the Middle Ages. I committed no fallacy, though I should have clarified that I meant far-ancient times for any uneducated posters that would have thought I was talking about medieval times.

 

[GundamSentinel]

I know the discussion value must be around here somewhere but I just can't find it! :O

I've got it...

He wants us to disagree with him... somehow...

OK, OP, you're wrong, the planet Earth is not spherical, it's an oblate spheroid... you read a book... -_-

You'd better re-read that book. The shape of the Earth approximates an oblate spheroid. It isn't really.

(Sorry, I felt like being pedantic.)

 

[Smeatza]

Actually it's a fallacy that there was once common thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Ah, but the myth is only that they thought that the Earth was flat during Columbus's time, which is not at all what I said.

I didn't specify when humans discovered that the Earth was round, but I absolutely knew it was during ancient Greek times, well before the Middle Ages. I committed no fallacy, though I should have clarified that I meant far-ancient times for any uneducated posters that would have thought I was talking about medieval times.

I'm uneducated because you failed to specify?

And you are clearly wrong. The ancient greeks widely believed the earth was round and not flat. Even before there was never a common belief the world was flat.

Are you trolling?

 

[Gabanuka]

The Earth is spherical you bastards!

But in all seriousness you're right, however whose to say we live on the outside of the sphere?

 

[chadachada123]

Actually it's a fallacy that there was once common thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Ah, but the myth is only that they thought that the Earth was flat during Columbus's time, which is not at all what I said.

I didn't specify when humans discovered that the Earth was round, but I absolutely knew it was during ancient Greek times, well before the Middle Ages. I committed no fallacy, though I should have clarified that I meant far-ancient times for any uneducated posters that would have thought I was talking about medieval times.

I'm uneducated because you failed to specify?

And you are clearly wrong. The ancient greeks widely believed the earth was round and not flat. Even before there was never a common belief the world was flat.

Are you trolling?

I was going to ask you the same thing, because I never said you were uneducated. I said that people that believed the myth you posted were uneducated. Edit: However, it's clear that you know little about the ancient Greeks or their culture.

According to the video I posted, linking to an essay by Issac Asimov, the ancient Greeks figured out that the Earth was round sometime near 300 BC.

A quick look at Wikipedia states that it was Pythagoras that first claimed that the Earth was round in the 6th century BC, and that it was by 500 BC that no reputable source in Greece claimed that the Earth was flat, with sources backing it up. It wasn't until the time of Eratosthenes that Earth's curvature was actually measured, in the 3rd century BC (like the video claimed).

The Ancient Greeks, as a whole, did not 'widely believe' the Earth was round. They believed it philosophically, but the common Greek was definitely not a philosopher, nor did they believe it in a scientific sense until at least Aristotle's time when actual evidence was brought forth for a round earth (like constellations moving when traveling southward).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

Did you even watch the damn video?

 

[Smeatza]

Actually it's a fallacy that there was once common thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Ah, but the myth is only that they thought that the Earth was flat during Columbus's time, which is not at all what I said.

I didn't specify when humans discovered that the Earth was round, but I absolutely knew it was during ancient Greek times, well before the Middle Ages. I committed no fallacy, though I should have clarified that I meant far-ancient times for any uneducated posters that would have thought I was talking about medieval times.

I'm uneducated because you failed to specify?

And you are clearly wrong. The ancient greeks widely believed the earth was round and not flat. Even before there was never a common belief the world was flat.

Are you trolling?

I was going to ask you the same thing, because I never said you were uneducated. I said that people that believed the myth you posted were uneducated. Edit: However, it's clear that you know little about the ancient Greeks or their culture.

According to the video I posted, linking to an essay by Issac Asimov, the ancient Greeks figured out that the Earth was round sometime near 300 BC.

A quick look at Wikipedia states that it was Pythagoras that first claimed that the Earth was round in the 6th century BC, and that it was by 500 BC that no reputable source in Greece claimed that the Earth was flat, with sources backing it up. It wasn't until the time of Eratosthenes that Earth's curvature was actually measured, in the 3rd century BC (like the video claimed).

The Ancient Greeks, as a whole, did not 'widely believe' the Earth was round. They believed it philosophically, but the common Greek was definitely not a philosopher, nor did they believe it in a scientific sense until at least Aristotle's time when actual evidence was brought forth for a round earth (like constellations moving when traveling southward).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

Did you even watch the damn video?

I did watch the video which is why it seems you are trolling.

It's nice that you're agreeing with me and all.

But it's irrelevant as you were claiming there was once a common consensus the world was flat, and that is not the case. It seems that everyone had their own theory on the shape of the world, before the consensus became a round one.

 

[Theminimanx]

I think you are mistaken.

The world is circular but flat, carried on the heads of Elephants riding on the back of a Tortoise.

I know I heard that one somewhere before, what's it from?

 

[Wintermoot]

bulllshit!
the earth is flat!

 

[Wintermoot]

I think you are mistaken.

The world is circular but flat, carried on the heads of Elephants riding on the back of a Tortoise.

I know I heard that one somewhere before, what's it from?

it,s from Discworld

 

[chadachada123]

I did watch the video which is why it seems you are trolling.

It's nice that you're agreeing with me and all.

But it's irrelevant as you were claiming there was once a common consensus the world was flat, and that is not the case. It seems that everyone had their own theory on the shape of the world, before the consensus became a round one.

*Sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth

Most ancient cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies.

Clearly you didn't watch the video, because the video says, and I quote, "Once, people believed the Earth was flat, and they were wrong ... [the curvature of the Earth being] the kind of measurements the ancients weren't capable of ... After some rather brilliant observation by great scientists such as Aristotle, the basic idea of a spherical Earth was advanced, and measured a century later by the Greek philosopher Eratosthenes."

In short, I've been saying the same thing the whole time, you accused me of being fallacious, so I posted more to show that I wasn't (and also to prove you wrong about the Greeks), and then you try to claim that I'm now agreeing with YOU.

You're either trolling or having a hard time comprehending this 'logic' and 'debate' stuff.

 

[Smeatza]

I did watch the video which is why it seems you are trolling.

It's nice that you're agreeing with me and all.

But it's irrelevant as you were claiming there was once a common consensus the world was flat, and that is not the case. It seems that everyone had their own theory on the shape of the world, before the consensus became a round one.

*Sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth

Most ancient cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies.

Clearly you didn't watch the video, because the video says, and I quote, "Once, people believed the Earth was flat, and they were wrong ... [the curvature of the Earth being] the kind of measurements the ancients weren't capable of ... After some rather brilliant observation by great scientists such as Aristotle, the basic idea of a spherical Earth was advanced, and measured a century later by the Greek philosopher Eratosthenes."

In short, I've been saying the same thing the whole time, you accused me of being fallacious, so I posted more to show that I wasn't (and also to prove you wrong about the Greeks), and then you try to claim that I'm now agreeing with YOU.

You're either trolling or having a hard time comprehending this 'logic' and 'debate' stuff.

Conceptions are not the same as a common consensus, especially a common scientific consensus. You yourself said that previous conceptions were philosophy based.
Modern scientific method wasn't properly established till about a thousand years ago, so if we're really going to get nitpicky we can say there weren't any legitimate scientific consensus' till then.

To be honest I don't really care, I was just intending to go off on an interesting side-bar and you had to go and get all belligerent and condescending on me.

I'm dissapointed in both of us for turning this thread, of all threads, into an argument.