The Elder Scrolls Online Fails - Working as Intended

[mjharper]

Also, on the supposed humour of this article, if it's meant to be funny, it fails. 'I fell through the world lol' is not humour, and neither is it a humorous bug. Cows falling from, or disappearing into, the sky, as they did in Skyrim at times, is humorous. The response to that is along the lines of 'WTF did I just see?' The response to falling through the world? 'Sigh.'

I remember falling through the world on DAoC and finding it pretty humourous;
"VALHALLA! I'M COMING! LIGHT OF ODIN GUIDE ME!"

What you mean is that you didn't find it humourous, which is fine humour isn't a universal thing, but you really seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this.

You know what? If I seem to have a chip my shoulder about this because its I keep being told that I am WRONG. Not that I have a different opinion, but that I am simply mistaken, or worse (in the case of Gilbert Estrada). But I will not continue to post in this thread, and will try to remove the chip

I do want to address one final thing though, and that is the matter of insults.

You seem to be laboring under the impression that the Escapist is supposed to be hard-hitting, cold, factual reporting site where humor is verboten. I would suggest you take advantage of your premium membership and read more of the site.. you'll find that there's humor just about everywhere you look, though I can understand that it might not seem that funny when someone is taking the piss out of a property which you may be sentimentally attached to.

There are at least two insults here. First, that my 'impression' of The Escapist is simply false; 'your premium membership'; 'humor just about everywhere you look'. I find this insulting because it implies that I am unfamiliar with the site, that my critique of this article is based on a misinformed understanding of the site. I apparently think The Escapist should be about cold hard facts, and I have not used my premium membership to educate myself otherwise. This is, like it or not, an argument ad hominem, because it is attacking my competence, and credibility, rather than the arguments I made.

Similarly, 'taking the piss out of a property which you may be sentimentally attached to' is also an attack on me, accusing my objections to the article of being clouded by bias.

So much for the first quotation; you used two different ad hominem arguments, which by their nature are insulting to the person making the argument. But then you continue.

You may have an elevated sense of self-importance if you think anything I wrote was even remotely an insult.

As I stated above, the insults of you first reply were due to the the ad hominem nature of your response; yet here you accuse me of simple arrogance. Rather than asking yourself whether what you wrote was insulting, you add another insult to the pile.

It's also possible that you may not be a very sophisticated reader

...and another.

if you assume that not explicitly naming the title means the idea behind it was never addressed (see the parts about humor for clarification).

It was never addressed - addressed explicitly - because your response amounted to ad homimen attacks. Undermining the credibility of the person making the argument does not address the argument.

My point is not to be vindictive here. I am done with this thread. But your posts contained a number of attacks on my character and intelligence, and perhaps you should be more aware of what you write before you accuse others of a lack of sophistication.

 

[Lightknight]

They had to pursue Mojang because they used the term scrolls. A failure to defend their namesake would have allowed any company after Mojang to use the term and site Bethesda's failure to protect their IP as them losing rights to it. Why a failure of the general population to understand law equates to a kerfuffle is beyond me.

It was even better than that. Mojang are the ones who started it by trying to get a trademark on Scrolls. Bethesda definitely had to respond to that. If Mojang hadn't filed for the trademark, Bethesda wouldn't really have had to get involved in order to protect their mark. Either way, the safest business decision for both sides would be for lawyers to work things out, which is exactly what happened. It was all just standard business procedures. The whole Mojang/Bethesda was just another non-story turned into a big kerfuffle because trademark laws aren't well understood and it generates a lot of comments.

So, having that dig against Zenimax/Bethesda for no good reason in a story that already seems to have a negative slant against them is a bit uncool.

I think the dig was merely misinformed if it's a dig at all. Right or not the internet did make a big stink about it. I just don't think a stink made out of ignorance should continue to be acknowledged without also being explained. Had Mojang gotten the rights to "Scrolls" as a trademark then no elder scrolls game could be made again under the same franchise name. That's pretty damn worth the legal paperwork.