The Emperor's Motivation.

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Andothul

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I think even though he is evil and twisted, palpatine actually in his mind believes that his way and the sith way of ruling is the right way to rule the galaxy. He believes the republic is weak and in his view the weak don't deserve to leave only the strong should succeed.

I'm not saying hes not evil, corrupt, and a meglomaniac i am just describing how Sith rationalize it all.
 

firedfns13

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To kill the reapers.
Or take over the other galaxies.

Why is every science fiction series tied into only 1 galaxy?
Star Wars, Mass Effect, and Star Trek (as far as I know, which is nil) all take place in only 1 galaxy. There are thousands more out there!
 

Andothul

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firedfns13 said:
To kill the reapers.
Or take over the other galaxies.

Why is every science fiction series tied into only 1 galaxy?
Star Wars, Mass Effect, and Star Trek (as far as I know, which is nil) all take place in only 1 galaxy. There are thousands more out there!
Because we only know about one galaxy in the universe and thats the milky way. We know of other galaxies in the universe but all we know is that they are there and how they are shaped and to a very small degree how many star are in them. It is likely that we will always know little about them. Even with faster than light travel going to another galaxy would be like trying to get to china in the 1700s in a rowboat.

The thing is in Star wars At least there are several species in canon that do actually come from other galaxies, namely the yuuzhan Vong
 

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firedfns13 said:
To kill the reapers.
Or take over the other galaxies.

Why is every science fiction series tied into only 1 galaxy?
Star Wars, Mass Effect, and Star Trek (as far as I know, which is nil) all take place in only 1 galaxy. There are thousands more out there!
Yeah, but the distance between them is so great, no one could survive the trip. They literally have another scale to measure intergalatic distances.

Even Stargate Atlantis, which is the only Science Fiction Show that I know of that stretches beyond one galaxy, goes to one of the closest galaxies to the Milky Way.
 

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The Gentleman said:
firedfns13 said:
To kill the reapers.
Or take over the other galaxies.

Why is every science fiction series tied into only 1 galaxy?
Star Wars, Mass Effect, and Star Trek (as far as I know, which is nil) all take place in only 1 galaxy. There are thousands more out there!
Yeah, but the distance between them is so great, no one could survive the trip. They literally have another scale to measure intergalatic distances.

Even Stargate Atlantis, which is the only Science Fiction Show that I know of that stretches beyond one galaxy, goes to one of the closest galaxies to the Milky Way.
To refute that, at least in the Mass Effect universe, they could just have another relay between them since they propel things across distances nobody would survive already.

Ooh I did not know that Stargate went to a close one. Nice.
 

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CJ1145 said:
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The87Italians said:
If he has power he can induce fear into every organism he so chooses, and thus rule the galaxy with an iron fist. Isn't that what everyone wants in life?
Yes, everyone wants power. But power is a means, not an end. So why?

Let me ask it this way. If you had ultimate power, what would you do? Would you just say "i have ultimate power. Sweet." and then do nothing? No, you'd use it for something. A nice house, cars, your own personal Island, women, drugs. You'd use power to get what you want.

So what does the Emperor want? What is he going to use "Unlimited Power!!!" for?
Why can power not be an end? If I had the chance to gain unlimited power, I'd go through a lot to get it. I'd probably do shit with it once I gained it, but power was my original goal, was it not?
Power can't be an end because its insubstantial. Its only worth is in what it allows you to do.

Why would you build a more powerful bomb? To blow up bigger things, or scare people more. You wouldn't build it... just to... have it.

You say you'd do things if you got unlimited power right? What would you do? Things that you can do without unlimited power? Probably not. What would be the point of having the power if you never use it or need it?

A better example is money. Money for the sake of money is never the goal. People want to buy things, donate to charities, and or get some tail. Means to an end my friend, means to an end.
 

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Since when is power a means and not the end? I think if you look at Emperors and people that conquered or atleast tried to conquer whole continents, it's pretty clear that power is somthing that people strife after and presumably the more you have, the more you want.It's like a drug.
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...you know what? I've never seen Star Wars Original Trilogy. I'd just be talking out my ass.
You've got some catching up to do, and yeah that chocobo hitting the can is the best avatar I've seen in a long time. Awesome reference.
 

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The Gentleman said:
Vivaldi said:
Ultra_Caboose said:
How did Alfred say it...?

"Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
This, and sort of "fur teh lulz", *coughs* sorry, I just threw up a little bit of 4chan, excuse me.
I'm actually inclined to disagree. There is very little in terms of distruction and chaos during the Empire, not like in the last days of the Republic. The largest threat they faced was a rag-tag terrorist group with some government connections. In the end, the combined fleet of the "Rebelion" would have been completely slaughtered had it not been for the sheer luck that the shield station was disabled (and I always found the relative ease by which that happened to be just a little bit of a plot hole).

On that note, am I the only one who thinks that the moment after the Emperor died, everything went to hell? I mean, he was the Emperor of the Galaxy, and you'd think that there would be somekind of back-up plan in the event that he were to, for some reason, be incapacitated. I mean, he couldn't exactly be dealing with every nitty-gritty detail of running the f--king galaxy. There has to be an established bureaucracy for any government to run.

And, also, why were people outside the rebelion celebrating his demise? I really can't stress enough the fact that he was the emperor for nearly 30 years. And, while some aspects of the Imperial Military were a little brutal, wouldn't the majority of galatic citizens feel at least some sense of loyalty to the leader which guided them through a civil war and kept the Empire together in a period of peace and relative calm? And wouldn't they be outraged over his assasination by his protoge (or, if the press came out differently and make Luke to be the assasin, a boy who "he was giving a chance to return to the side of law and order")?

Am I the only one here who is noticing these kinda important points for after the death of the Empire?
 

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Of all the characters in Star Wars, Palpatine may the closest to one of pure, unrestrained evil, far overshadowing any character in the Expanded Universe, even the Yuuzhan Vong. The man is simply egotism personified, possibly owing to immersing himself in two seperate careers both notorious for corroding a person's moral center (Sithdom and Politics). He's never had his background or training under his master elaborated on very much, and in some ways that makes him more intimidating, if unrealistically evil (ironically, he's born on Naboo. Scarred for life by Gungans, perhaps?).

One novel has a suboordinate imagining a future wherein Palpatine is able to extend his control to every being in the Galaxy, and consume them one by one like food, with his and Vader's reward 'to be devoured last'. The more recent Force Unleashed novelization had Galen Marek trying to figure out what the hell he wants the Death Star for, if not to kill everything in the Galaxy except for him.

Oh, and he never would have to step down due to age. Even before his death he had clones of himself ready to go and had learned the Force technique to transfer his mind into one.
 

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He wants to own everything. I mean who doesn't want to control every planet, alien, and star know to the universe? Ultimate greed my friend. Also, he's a shallow character (yeah, that's right I said it!) that is more about being generically evil then having good motivations.
 

Brad Shepard

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he wanted power, like all villans, ill admit, i had to read a few books to get this, but eh, reading is fun.