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Geo Da Sponge

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I've noticed that it's been buzzing around for quite a long time that gaming is in a doomed plunge which it will not survive, with game becoming worse and companies hating us and blah blah blah. And, in a bid to create a totally unique thread which has only been done 7 times before, I've decided to ask why. Why do people think games are getting worse? Why are you determined to declare that improved graphics, deeper stories and more exciting gameplay are signs of the coming apocalypse?
 

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I feel that games are constantly improving, and I think most gamers are just looking for stuff to complain about so they can use authorative language in their forum posts. You know, since they never get a chance to use it in real life.
 

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Games are turning to realism, which I think it isn't worth the trouble. In my view, games are turning into movies.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
I've noticed that it's been buzzing around for quite a long time that gaming is in a doomed plunge which it will not survive, with game becoming worse and companies hating us and blah blah blah. And, in a bid to create a totally unique thread which has only been done 7 times before, I've decided to ask why. Why do people think games are getting worse? Why are you determined to declare that improved graphics, deeper stories and more exciting gameplay are signs of the coming apocalypse?
I don't think there is anything wron with gaming at all.
 

not a zaar

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It's just gloom and doom. As a rule of thumb 90% of everything is always crap. Games are no worse now than they were 5 10 or 20 years ago. In fact if anything gaming only continues to improve while those who can't take off the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia can only whine as the medium evolves and transcends them. Of course this only applies to PC gaming. The current generation of consoles is atrocious :p
 

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If you look hard enough everything is a sign of the coming apocalypse.
 

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Everything is always on it's way to it's final, completely conclusive, the last one ever, ENDING. Things have always been that way, and they always will continue to be that way.

Just stop listening to what everyone keeps saying and enjoy your hobbies. They'll have their ups and downs, but an actual end in the existence in any of them? I highly doubt it.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
I've noticed that it's been buzzing around for quite a long time that gaming is in a doomed plunge which it will not survive, with game becoming worse and companies hating us and blah blah blah. And, in a bid to create a totally unique thread which has only been done 7 times before, I've decided to ask why. Why do people think games are getting worse? Why are you determined to declare that improved graphics, deeper stories and more exciting gameplay are signs of the coming apocalypse?
Well you see the problem is very few games have all of those qualities, heck some times were are lucky just to have one of them.
 

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AboveUp said:
Everything is always on it's way to it's final, completely conclusive, the last one ever, ENDING. Things have always been that way, and they always will continue to be that way.

Just stop listening to what everyone keeps saying and enjoy your hobbies. They'll have their ups and downs, but an actual end in the existence in any of them? I highly doubt it.
Firstly, I am well aware of what entropy is thank you very much, so there's no need to patronise.

Secondly, you seem to misunderstand the point entirely. It's not as if the entirety of gaming will be swallowed by a black hole, it's just many people think gaming is in decline with the quality of games being directly disproportionate to the number of gamers. And I don't let these views ruin my hobby, I'd just like to turn the nay sayers to my point of view so that they can actually enjoy something for once.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
Disney's trying to buy EA. If that isn't one of the signs of the apocalypse then I don't know what is.
That's just what we need. Madden wearing Mickey Mouse ears as EA keeps releasing the same game every year.
 

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Sure, there have been a bunch of bad games out recently, but that's the way it's ALWAYS been.

If anything, recent times are plagued by whiney millennials who either want every game to cure cancer, are close-mindedly stuck to a single franchise/console, or both.

Nothing is wrong with gaming now.
Gamers, on the other hand...that's a whole other thread.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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blood77 said:
Well you see the problem is very few games have all of those qualities, heck some times were are lucky just to have one of them.
How about Mass Effect? It had a good story, good graphics (well the character models were nice, okay?) and fun gameplay (especially if you played Vanguard and combined levitation biotics with a high stopping power shotgun). Or Call of Duty 4? Gah, what am I saying! We must hate anything popular just like we must hate anything new!

Richard Groovy Pants said:
Oh and also games are getting shorter and shorter.

Soon you will be paying 60 bucks (or more with the economical crisis) for something that lasts 10 hours. With almost no replay value.

Do you think that's fair?
True, but the greater implementation of online Multiplayer more than makes up for that. Pretty much any game with decent multiplayer can more than make it up to me.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
blood77 said:
Well you see the problem is very few games have all of those qualities, heck some times were are lucky just to have one of them.
How about Mass Effect? It had a good story, good graphics (well the character models were nice, okay?) and fun gameplay (especially if you played Vanguard and combined levitation biotics with a high stopping power shotgun). Or Call of Duty 4? Gah, what am I saying! We must hate anything popular just like we must hate anything new!
Yeah I said few games, not no games. Plus I like a number of the new games to come out, I don't even really see games lacking something even as a problem. Nothing is ever going to be perfect and I think people need to realize that, but then on the other hand there needs to also be a little more for though put into some games.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
Oh and also games are getting shorter and shorter.

Soon you will be paying 60 bucks (or more with the economical crisis) for something that lasts 10 hours. With almost no replay value.

Do you think that's fair?
Sure it's fair, if you payed for it. You should know what you're buying before you buy it. If you think $60 is not a good value for the game you are getting, well nobody is forcing you to buy these products. With all the plethora of reviews, previews, and other sources of information about games these days you have no excuse to not be an informed consumer.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
not a zaar said:
Richard Groovy Pants said:
Oh and also games are getting shorter and shorter.

Soon you will be paying 60 bucks (or more with the economical crisis) for something that lasts 10 hours. With almost no replay value.

Do you think that's fair?
Sure it's fair, if you payed for it. You should know what you're buying before you buy it. If you think $60 is not a good value for the game you are getting, well nobody is forcing you to buy these products. With all the plethora of reviews, previews, and other sources of information about games these days you have no excuse to not be an informed consumer.
Follow me here.

Over priced games -->
Shorter games -->
People get pissed off and stop buying games -->
Companies are forced to push the prices up in order to keep their business -->
People still refuse to buy games -->
Industry dies.

At least until a new generation of gamers comes along with the low standards they have and buy them. That's how it works, this has happened before and it will happen again.

History repeats itself.
Your path is ridiculous, you assume that businesses will drive the price of their products UP to revive demand? Come on now, that's ludicrous. Can you actually give any examples of when this has happened on such a scale as the modern game industry?

At most we may see a decrease in game budgets, hopefully in the graphics and technology departments.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
At least until a new generation of gamers comes along with the low standards they have and buy them. That's how it works, this has happened before and it will happen again.
I believe they're Nintendo's new target market, known quaintly as casual gamers, which always seems to chime a certain note of irony. Of course some of the hate is well deserved, since many think that this easier market has diverted Nintendo from their real fans who would like a decent game every now and then.

I think everyone got really annoyed when the Nintendo presentation at E3 was seemingly aimed at casual gamers, thus misinterpreting the point of the event.