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Anarchemitis

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[sub]I know better than to start this post with "Back in mah day" to get immediately written off as some complainy user that has spent far too long on a Gaming forum.Yet somehow I will be immediately assumed to be just as condescending, silently.[/sub]
The Escapist Magazine Forum is a Community. Maybe some of the frequenters have felt this sense of association between its users and the opinions they convey, maybe not. Or perhaps individuals feel that the Escapist is just another forum, or soon to become another wretched hive of trolls and lollery. How it used to be, was a smaller and quieter time. The real question however, is whether or not the exchange time has traded, was worth it; In the Earlier Days, The Escapist was a tight-knit group of users probably numbering less than two hundred. Ever since the large surges of popularity that the Summers since 2007 (due to Zero Punctuation[footnote]Zero Punctuation, first episode "Heavenly Sword and Other Stuff", August 2007 [Link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1-Heavenly-Sword-and-Other-Stuff]][/footnote]), that community has grown, until it was unrecognizable as of probably late 2009, due to those users and their posts becoming so dilute in the incomprehensibly large population that now frequents the forums and site. However the broadened gates of users going in and out of the site made it less Elitist and more accessible for the average internet goer while still maintaining the significantly higher standard of posting.[img_inline caption="An aside, I consider Ben Croshaw to be more of an entertainer or comedian than a reviewer or critic. " width=300]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/12/zero-punctuation-assassins-.jpg[/img_inline]
The question is, which could be thought of as 'better' (if either)- the smaller but more intimate community of users, verses the more readily accessible but larger group of frequenters, which relegated closer friendship as it used to be, to the confines of Groups or private chats outside the realm of the forum?

I joined, like many people, out of curiosity of a peculiar cartoon character on a yellow background saying funny things about games I had not played. It did not take long for me to find my place among many other people which I was pleased to discover were mostly my age, and liked video games. While obviously this is largely the assumption de facto of most given internet users, it was a big new world for me, and I was very delighted with the polite, rational and... akin to sophisticated atmosphere. Egotists came off as pretending to be Supervillains, Fanboys could be associated with and were quite friendly, even if a bit zealous regarding their preferred devices, and most trolls ended up having to erect a fisade resembling the Upper Class Twit-of-the-Year in order to not become banned within a few minutes, due to the eloquent and always delightfully malicious lone moderator the Escapist had, Joe[footnote]Before the summer of 2008, the Escapist Forums had Joe as the only moderator, until Wilsonscrazybed and Nilcipher.[/footnote]. One could describe the best of days as in and around the Fall of 2008 when the chemistry of the Escapist was most agreeable for the amount of users which had influxed of the summer of that year, and the community which still managed to thrive. The Escapist community had grown from probably 200 to about 2000 common frequenters, bringing all sorts of interesting and large scale engagements of its members. I recall events such as The First Escapist Presidential Election[footnote]The President of the Escapist Election formed two threads: The Original (No Longer Accessible) and the Ballot Box [Link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/362.69158]]. Also a Role-play [Link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/362.71342]].[/footnote], won by former President Darth Mobius[footnote]Darth Mobius was permanently banned...[/footnote], or the rather scherzo-addled division of opinions regarding the initiation of the Holiday Council[footnote]The Holiday Council can still be accessed. [Link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.79496]][/footnote], headed by Xitel.
Personally, I would like to instate the axiom of the history of The Escapist before I too shuffle off my usage of this modest user account, and the wonderful days of yesteryear disapear from all memory. Personally, the Escapist as a close community was an important component of my development as a person regarding how I thought and conversed. This site due to those days truly is the best site I've ever been on and doubt any website will ever surpass the meaningful and fun conversations I had in the past here.

TL;DR footnote complaints aside, as of late, the Escapist has been thriving in terms of usage and the ability to find and share ideas between many people has expanded greatly, but I really ask, at what cost. Feel free to consider such a dysjunction, Small but relationally tangible pools of people to converse with, compared to large, unencapsulatable social groups which can come and go as they please?

Special Thanks go to Irridium, The Monopoly Guy and Jumplion for assisting me in the recollection of the Older Days.
Very Special Thanks go to all the users who contributed in making The Escapist more than just a place to talk about stuff, but truly an energetic and synergistic place to escape to. Whoever, and wherever they may be.
NewClassic, The_Root_of_All_Evil, TheNecroswanson, Neonbob, MaxTheReaper, John Galt, Fire Daemon, Danny Ocean, Ivory Agent, J-e-f-f-e-r-s, Fish Food Carl, Jamanticus, Berethond, Lord Krunk, GenHellSpawn, Darth Mobius, The Iron Ninja, The Monopoly Guy, Poodonkis, Joe, Hey Joe, Ultrajoe, Eviljoe, The Sorrow, The Prophet, Shapsters, milskidasith,x434343, Larenxis, Lord Harrab, Higurashi,Portkins, mshcherbatskaya, rogueshadows, El Arab De Magnifico, Generally Mostly Electrified Steel, RAKtheUndead, Taxi Driver, Dastardos, Copter400, Gigantor, Conqueror Kenny, PedroSteckecilo, PurpleRain, Combined, Shivari, Spartan Bannana, stompy, Nivag, Xitel, Spinwhiz, Vanguard1219, Abako, TheBobMaster,
and the eternally tireless efforts all the Escapist Moderator, Tech and Administrative Staff, who were here since before the beginning.
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Phlakes

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I've been a fan of the site since mid '07, but I was never really into forums back then. Now I'm wishing I had joined that early.
 

Xpwn3ntial

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I would be lying if I said I lurked long before I joined back in late 2008, but I try to keep that time (2008) alive with me.
 

Erana

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Fall 08' was good times for the 'Scapist....

And yes, Xi and his Holiday Council was awesome. Everyone used to dress up their avatar. And its what initiated me into a 'Scapist inner-circle.
Changed my life, really, considering that I've been a regular patron of the 'Scapist for years now. (Though you wouldn't guess from my post count...)

Still, I don't think the 'Scapist is necessarily that loosely-knit now, its just that the closeness has been lost in the forums. I didn't like the idea of user groups, and still never use them much, but I am aware of a lot of little groups of 'Scapist communities here and there. Like the Roleplayers, the forum gamers, the IRC peeps, et cetera.

And don't forget Labyrinth, Anarchemitis! She's been around here long than you. And has a temper. And a banmop.
... I wouldn't mess with her.
 

likalaruku

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I came here in 2008 for Zero Punctuation & Unforgotten Realms. There's lots of good stuff here, but this is the best forum on the net.
 

The Rockerfly

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I can't remember when I came here but I remember watching Yahtzees Bioshock review on the day I came here. I had another account but that was on a different e-mail address and a password I could never remember

I feel the new rules are a big problem being that they are too unspecific which would be much easier to moderate and understand when you have broken the rules. There are many people who have been put on probation and suspended for just saying a video series isn't any good.

Along with the new rules I have always hated the user groups, making memes on this site, people responding to threads with stupid unfunny injokes and increasing the post count is really annoying too. But the last one is more of an ego thing than an actual problem I have against user groups. Weirdly enough I feel less close to people now because of them while when I was with the escapists in 09 I had a lot of friends who are now banned and gone :/

The Escapist is good, always has been good but not as good as it used to be but that's my opinion
 

Anarchemitis

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The Rockerfly said:
Along with the new rules I have always hated the user groups, making memes on this site, people responding to threads with stupid unfunny injokes and increasing the post count is really annoying too.
I recall before badges or groups. The only way to increase your post count was to comment on stuff, so everyone increased their post count at the same rate, relatively speaking (variance for how much you actually were on the site) and therefore the post count was a relatively effective and reliable metric for measuring how long the person had been a member of the site, and how often they visited. Now the only indicator of that is the moderation badges, or ones which bear beer steins. Except I've never gotten the Morpheous badge because of the changing criterion for "Staying out of of Trouble" as well as how many moderators have come and gone.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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Good to hear, by the time I joined I could tell things were getting busier and changing, but they still had that small community feel somewhere in there and it was nice. I'm hoping the influx in new users slows down enough for everyone to get acquainted with how things are around here.
 

zen5887

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Good times!!

I remember hanging out with PurpleRain while he told me about this wonderful place on the Internet. Its crazy to think what happened to that dude because of this site!
 

Erana

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Zekksta said:
I feel like I should bump this just because of the amount of effort that went into the post does not equal the amount of views it's had.
In the olden days, that was the size OPs were expected to be! Blarg, golden days, WW2, Model T, blah! :V *shakes her cane at the youngster*
The Rockerfly said:
I can't remember when I came here but I remember watching Yahtzees Bioshock review on the day I came here. I had another account but that was on a different e-mail address and a password I could never remember

I feel the new rules are a big problem being that they are too unspecific which would be much easier to moderate and understand when you have broken the rules. There are many people who have been put on probation and suspended for just saying a video series isn't any good.

Along with the new rules I have always hated the user groups, making memes on this site, people responding to threads with stupid unfunny injokes and increasing the post count is really annoying too. But the last one is more of an ego thing than an actual problem I have against user groups. Weirdly enough I feel less close to people now because of them while when I was with the escapists in 09 I had a lot of friends who are now banned and gone :/

The Escapist is good, always has been good but not as good as it used to be but that's my opinion
The Escapist staff look to promote a community of people who don't need rules to dictate their behavior. Just because the rules have been rewritten doesn't mean any of the mods have changed their modding behaviors- rather, its retrofitted to match their philosiphy.
 

The Rockerfly

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Anarchemitis said:
I recall before badges or groups. The only way to increase your post count was to comment on stuff, so everyone increased their post count at the same rate, relatively speaking (variance for how much you actually were on the site) and therefore the post count was a relatively effective and reliable metric for measuring how long the person had been a member of the site, and how often they visited. Now the only indicator of that is the moderation badges, or ones which bear beer steins. Except I've never gotten the Morpheous badge because of the changing criterion for "Staying out of of Trouble" as well as how many moderators have come and gone.
Exactly and now people who have been on the site for a month can get 10k of posts by just posting random crap on the user groups and it's quite annoying. Especially since none of those posts are moderated

Yeah I'm never going to get my Neo badge, got put on probation on 4500 posts. It took me almost 2 years to get that many posts and it was for stating my honest opinion, not attacking anyone, just for disagreeing with the fundamental idea of religion

I raged

Erana said:
The Escapist staff look to promote a community of people who don't need rules to dictate their behavior. Just because the rules have been rewritten doesn't mean any of the mods have changed their modding behaviors- rather, its retrofitted to match their philosiphy.
I have even little faith in some of the people on this site, many agree with anti mainstream gaming views (for the sake of being indie), agreeing with incest and as many users are about 15, I'd rather not have them moderating me.

Also that's a downright lie, they love rules, the mods do and so do the staff. The new rules just gives them a free pass to ban people for whatever they want such as, disagreeing with them, any negative feedback or posts they don't like and just generally not liking users.
 

Anarchemitis

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The Rockerfly said:
Yeah I'm never going to get my Neo badge, got put on probation on 4500 posts. It took me almost 2 years to get that many posts and it was for stating my honest opinion, not attacking anyone, just for disagreeing with the fundamental idea of religion
I raged
"delightfully malicious" is an understatement when describing how Joe was.
Suspensions and Prohibitions have only been around for about a year and a half. Before then, either you were banned (for a period of time) or you weren't. No warnings apart from Private Messages, and you only got one.

I was banned seven days for saying "No." to a guy's request for assistance in making a Zero Punctuation wiki. The justification for said ban was "Don't be a dick."

Eloquence and Justice were the key words of the day, if it wasn't apparent.
 

The Rockerfly

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Anarchemitis said:
"delightfully malicious" is an understatement when describing how Joe was.
Suspensions and Prohibitions have only been around for about a year and a half. Before then, either you were banned (for a period of time) or you weren't. No warnings apart from Private Messages, and you only got one.

I was banned seven days for saying "No." to a guy's request for assistance in making a Zero Punctuation wiki. The justification for said ban was "Don't be a dick."

Eloquence and Justice were the key words of the day, if it wasn't apparent.
Oh the days of ultra joe were funny, sometimes he'd ban people for his and everyone elses amusement. If you weren't his friend then chances are he'd ban you for stepping a foot out of line

The annoying thing now is you can complain and appeal your ban but no one ever responds, it makes the function almost completely useless. Unless you privately message a mod or staff they will never give you any feedback
 

Anarchemitis

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zen5887 said:
Good times!!

I remember hanging out with PurpleRain while he told me about this wonderful place on the Internet. Its crazy to think what happened to that dude because of this site!
I remember when you had a pink avatar of a person with glasses.
The Rockerfly said:
Oh the days of ultra joe were funny, sometimes he'd ban people for his and everyone elses amusement. If you weren't his friend then chances are he'd ban you for stepping a foot out of line

The annoying thing now is you can complain and appeal your ban but no one ever responds, it makes the function almost completely useless. Unless you privately message a mod or staff they will never give you any feedback
Ultrajoe doesn't moderate anymore because it stopped being it's own reward, he told me once.
 

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I remember back when I joined up, I think I just caught the last of the small community mind-set before things just took off and the site grew. I remember the threads back then compared to ones today were always a lot friendlier, more open for debates and the like without the words "Troll", "Fanboy" and whatever insult you can think of being thrown around like a hot potato, unlike some threads today. There was also some more memorable moments then, many of them involving MaxtheReaper and No More Sanity, before their bannings. There is a certain something missing from the forums today that was't missing when I joined. What it is though, I'm not sure. Hopefully it shall be rediscovered soon and tempt me out of the little community in Forum Games a little more often.

And I shall be honest, I clicked on this thread, very much expecting a "BACK IN MAH DAY, WE HAD THIS, THAT, BLAH BLAH, PEOPLE RESPECTED US!" sort of post, like we had at this point last year from the user who was never found out. So I was glad to find out it wasn't that kind of a thread, although I'm probably seen amongst some of the older members as some sort of Anti-christ. :p
 

Omikron009

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I've been here for over a year now, and I'm beginning to realize how samey the vast majority of threads are. I didn't post for quite a month or so because of it, but I've started up again. Another thing I've noticed is that despite my (relatively) high post count, I've never made any effort to integrate myself into the community, and still consider myself to be something of an outsider.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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I've been following ZP here since 2007. I am really mad at myself for never making an account back then...

Nice thread, a glimpse at the community before I joined it is always nice :)

Sassafrass said:
Dwelling in Forum games does make things easier :)

[sub]I too miss the days when one could get into heated debates. I never got into them but I watched with interest.[/sub]
 

sheic99

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I wasn't expecting to be listed, but I'm still a little disappointed. I have to ask though, what brought this on all of a sudden?
 

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Phlakes said:
I've been a fan of the site since mid '07, but I was never really into forums back then. Now I'm wishing I had joined that early.
Same. seems like there was alot more going on back then.
 

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The day I realized something was horribly wrong was when I say a two page vs. thread and there wasn't a single response calling them out on it. That may be because of the new rules, but it still made me die a bit inside. Also even though I'm a native speaker of English lurking here helped me improve my grammar (and annoyed all my teacher because I adopted the British way of spelling colour), and I just don't see the same quality anymore. I preferred it more when this site was full of elitist and grammar Nazis who believed in using proper English on the internet.