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ranger19 said:
I wanted to chime in here, too. I don't mind when the Escapist reports a study or claim horribly biased against video games and then tears it apart; that's fine. But the stuff I bolded above I particularly agree with - no self-respecting news article blatantly inserts its opinions at the end of a news article. I know the Escapist aspires to be a high quality site about games, and this quirk is one thing that's always bothered me. You can't be, I don't know, "the New York Times" of video game journalism when you write opinionated remarks at the end of an article. Opinions are fine; just save them for the opinions and editorials sections.
Well, I would like to say that I do mind when the Escapist tears apart anti-video game studies and yet puts the pro-game studies on a pedestal. That's not to say that the studies are not bunk, but when you get horribly biased articles like the one I linked it doesn't matter whether it's pro- or anti-game. It's great that we're scrutinizing those "anti-game" studies, but we hardly do that to any "pro-game" studies whatsoever, and as such it leads to horribly one-sided debates on the subject.
 

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does anyone else think the ps3 hacker kid looks like a high teenage Quentin Tarantino?
 

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You say these are highlight from 2011, but the Plants vs Zombies thing was from 2010.
Did I completely miss something?
 

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Jumplion said:
Well, I would like to say that I do mind when the Escapist tears apart anti-video game studies and yet puts the pro-game studies on a pedestal. That's not to say that the studies are not bunk, but when you get horribly biased articles like the one I linked it doesn't matter whether it's pro- or anti-game. It's great that we're scrutinizing those "anti-game" studies, but we hardly do that to any "pro-game" studies whatsoever, and as such it leads to horribly one-sided debates on the subject.
Fair enough. Promoting biased articles is never something I would condone.. it just what wasn't what was on my mind at the moment. But I agree, the Escapist should pick apart shoddy studies no matter what, and promote good ones either way.
 

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Going to wait and see where this is going, but I really liked the old format and the weekly articles. You guys always managed to tackle interesting issues in a compelling way.

Anyway, I have confidence in the Escapist and I'm not going to troll until *after* the new format sets in :p
 

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That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
Wait what? I'm a little confused now. The Editorial Russ Pitts put up seems to say the opposite of what that statement says.

Are you guys lumping all the daily content into the "once-a-week" big issue; or spreading out the Feature articles to come out freely at any time, like how the reviews work? Wha'd I miss here?
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
Wait what? I'm a little confused now. The Editorial Russ Pitts put up seems to say the opposite of what that statement says.

Are you guys lumping all the daily content into the "once-a-week" big issue; or spreading out the Feature articles to come out freely at any time, like how the reviews work? Wha'd I miss here?
As I understood it, everything will be part of 1 weekly issue, but the articles of said issue will be spread out over the week. So ZP will still be put up on wednesday, but it will also be part of "issue 513" (or whatever number we're upto at the moment...)
 

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Eleuthera said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
Wait what? I'm a little confused now. The Editorial Russ Pitts put up seems to say the opposite of what that statement says.

Are you guys lumping all the daily content into the "once-a-week" big issue; or spreading out the Feature articles to come out freely at any time, like how the reviews work? Wha'd I miss here?
As I understood it, everything will be part of 1 weekly issue, but the articles of said issue will be spread out over the week. So ZP will still be put up on wednesday, but it will also be part of "issue 513" (or whatever number we're upto at the moment...)
Ah I see. Then the "Issue number" itself becomes a little...pointless doesn't it? Not that I'm complaining; This system looks like it will work much better at getting more views for the Features, as people now won't have to read a HUGE bunch of rhetoric, all in one go.
 

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ok, it's seems that i have to be "that one person" who say it...
alot of the news i see in the escapist just makes no sense being there in the first place.
take or example the body armor story. now why does even exist on the escapist? it got nothing to do with gaming nor gamers.
i really understand that most of the writers want to be validated as respectable journalists. but writing about "the newest smartest computer who is going to take over the world of the week" is really irritating when you only should writ about games and gamers...
 

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I like your news, and there seems to be left "via" articles over time. That's the important bit though, if you're going to make news a thing, you need to make sure that a reasonable portion of it is your news and not leech news.

I like the article selection choice on the Escapist though, very rarely is there a report on something I don't find interseting.

Finally, still on the lines of what counts as news, if something major happens to a certain famous gaming magazine website, maybe one we're tied up in and have accounts and details lodged with and maybe if that major thing that happens involves a certain hacking group, and maybe if that hacking group is something that definitely isn't spelled Lulzsek but is possible very similar, and maybe if that website has taken every opportunity at taking digs at Sony for only telling us what happened a couple of days after the event.

Maybe that gaming magazine website thing, should actually, you know, report it.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
Wait what? I'm a little confused now. The Editorial Russ Pitts put up seems to say the opposite of what that statement says.

Are you guys lumping all the daily content into the "once-a-week" big issue; or spreading out the Feature articles to come out freely at any time, like how the reviews work? Wha'd I miss here?
Everything on the site - news, feature articles, comics, reviews - is all now considered part of the magazine. We won't be publishing features once a week in a lump like we used to, but rather spreading the articles out. So rather than the rest of the content conforming to the way we used to handle the features, the features are now getting with the program and being handled the way the rest of the content is.

hapipdalia said:
ok, it's seems that i have to be "that one person" who say it...
alot of the news i see in the escapist just makes no sense being there in the first place.
take or example the body armor story. now why does even exist on the escapist? it got nothing to do with gaming nor gamers.
i really understand that most of the writers want to be validated as respectable journalists. but writing about "the newest smartest computer who is going to take over the world of the week" is really irritating when you only should writ about games and gamers...
Who says we should "only write about games and gamers"? This isn't about being "validated as respectable journalists," it's about sharing things that we find interesting with you guys, because we think you'll find it interesting, too. Stuff like robots and Doctor Who and scientific discoveries and movies. It's all part of the culture that we nerds enjoy, and the audience has proven that they enjoy it, too. If you don't personally like that stuff, it's easy enough to skip over so you can get to all the game news we cover.
 

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I guess this represents my feelings Anyway I may not like change but I'll adjust, hope it all works out!
 

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Susan Arendt said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
hapipdalia said:
ok, it's seems that i have to be "that one person" who say it...
alot of the news i see in the escapist just makes no sense being there in the first place.
take or example the body armor story. now why does even exist on the escapist? it got nothing to do with gaming nor gamers.
i really understand that most of the writers want to be validated as respectable journalists. but writing about "the newest smartest computer who is going to take over the world of the week" is really irritating when you only should writ about games and gamers...
Who says we should "only write about games and gamers"? This isn't about being "validated as respectable journalists," it's about sharing things that we find interesting with you guys, because we think you'll find it interesting, too. Stuff like robots and Doctor Who and scientific discoveries and movies. It's all part of the culture that we nerds enjoy, and the audience has proven that they enjoy it, too. If you don't personally like that stuff, it's easy enough to skip over so you can get to all the game news we cover.
according to the "about" link in the escapist:
"Founded in 2005, The Escapist is a leading video gaming destination offering video game enthusiasts high-quality, innovative and exclusive content with a considered approach to its audience.The mouthpiece of the gaming generation, The Escapist aims to capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture by way of in-depth features, thought provoking articles and relevant columns authored by leading video game authorities, as well as cutting-edge video shorts, engaging forums and robust social media elements that incorporate the video gaming experience. "
so either a) redefine what the escapist is of
b) acully writ about thinks that relates to gaming!
however i must say that this is only my personal option, nothing else...
 

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hapipdalia said:
Susan Arendt said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
hapipdalia said:
ok, it's seems that i have to be "that one person" who say it...
alot of the news i see in the escapist just makes no sense being there in the first place.
take or example the body armor story. now why does even exist on the escapist? it got nothing to do with gaming nor gamers.
i really understand that most of the writers want to be validated as respectable journalists. but writing about "the newest smartest computer who is going to take over the world of the week" is really irritating when you only should writ about games and gamers...
Who says we should "only write about games and gamers"? This isn't about being "validated as respectable journalists," it's about sharing things that we find interesting with you guys, because we think you'll find it interesting, too. Stuff like robots and Doctor Who and scientific discoveries and movies. It's all part of the culture that we nerds enjoy, and the audience has proven that they enjoy it, too. If you don't personally like that stuff, it's easy enough to skip over so you can get to all the game news we cover.
according to the "about" link in the escapist:
"Founded in 2005, The Escapist is a leading video gaming destination offering video game enthusiasts high-quality, innovative and exclusive content with a considered approach to its audience.The mouthpiece of the gaming generation, The Escapist aims to capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture by way of in-depth features, thought provoking articles and relevant columns authored by leading video game authorities, as well as cutting-edge video shorts, engaging forums and robust social media elements that incorporate the video gaming experience. "
so either a) redefine what the escapist is of
b) acully writ about thinks that relates to gaming!
however i must say that this is only my personal option, nothing else...
And we still do all of that. We just do more, too. Nowhere in there does it mandate that we will only cover gaming news. We believe that there's more to the "contemporary videogaming lifestyle" than just gaming. As I said before, if you don't enjoy the extra content, there's still plenty of gaming-related content here for you.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Everything on the site - news, feature articles, comics, reviews - is all now considered part of the magazine. We won't be publishing features once a week in a lump like we used to, but rather spreading the articles out. So rather than the rest of the content conforming to the way we used to handle the features, the features are now getting with the program and being handled the way the rest of the content is.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the Clarification.
And for the record, I think this is an excellent change. Best of luck.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
hapipdalia said:
Susan Arendt said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
That means news, reviews, videos, regular columns and webcomics will all join the feature articles as important parts of each weekly issue.
hapipdalia said:
ok, it's seems that i have to be "that one person" who say it...
alot of the news i see in the escapist just makes no sense being there in the first place.
take or example the body armor story. now why does even exist on the escapist? it got nothing to do with gaming nor gamers.
i really understand that most of the writers want to be validated as respectable journalists. but writing about "the newest smartest computer who is going to take over the world of the week" is really irritating when you only should writ about games and gamers...
Who says we should "only write about games and gamers"? This isn't about being "validated as respectable journalists," it's about sharing things that we find interesting with you guys, because we think you'll find it interesting, too. Stuff like robots and Doctor Who and scientific discoveries and movies. It's all part of the culture that we nerds enjoy, and the audience has proven that they enjoy it, too. If you don't personally like that stuff, it's easy enough to skip over so you can get to all the game news we cover.
according to the "about" link in the escapist:
"Founded in 2005, The Escapist is a leading video gaming destination offering video game enthusiasts high-quality, innovative and exclusive content with a considered approach to its audience.The mouthpiece of the gaming generation, The Escapist aims to capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture by way of in-depth features, thought provoking articles and relevant columns authored by leading video game authorities, as well as cutting-edge video shorts, engaging forums and robust social media elements that incorporate the video gaming experience. "
so either a) redefine what the escapist is of
b) acully writ about thinks that relates to gaming!
however i must say that this is only my personal option, nothing else...
And we still do all of that. We just do more, too. Nowhere in there does it mandate that we will only cover gaming news. We believe that there's more to the "contemporary videogaming lifestyle" than just gaming. As I said before, if you don't enjoy the extra content, there's still plenty of gaming-related content here for you.
once again, this was merely my personal option, and i never said that there is anything wrong with that. it's just that there has been days where i simply refrained from checking the entire daily update because the were simply too much unrelated news, if i may call them that, and i just didn't have the time, or simply wanted to, scroll through all of them...