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That belongs in the out of context quotes thread.
I'm willing under ANY context.
Ok, Marmite... that's fine. My taste for beer has been trending towards heavier hops recently so I can see how maybe I wouldn't be as opposed to Marmite as I was when I tried it for the first time. But Branston Pickle, no. That is a taste I could never acquire. And it would be impossible to make a "thin layer" with Branston Pickle... too chunky.
Are you kidding me? Branston Pickle is fucking fantastic! On a deli sandwich, on an omelet, on a steak, hell, by the tablespoon, that shit slaps! I am 100% curious what you dislike about it. It's basically A1 sauce with crunchy chunks because heartburn should crunch.
 
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Are you kidding me? Branston Pickle is fucking fantastic! On a deli sandwich, on an omelet, on a steak, hell, by the tablespoon, that shit slaps! I am 100% curious what you dislike about it. It's basically A1 sauce with crunchy chunks because heartburn should crunch.
I took many years to appreciate branston pickle (or its local derivative) but when coupled with roast beef, good cheese, tomato and toasted on sour-dough is *chef's kiss*
 
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Are you kidding me? Branston Pickle is fucking fantastic! On a deli sandwich, on an omelet, on a steak, hell, by the tablespoon, that shit slaps! I am 100% curious what you dislike about it. It's basically A1 sauce with crunchy chunks because heartburn should crunch.
Yeah, that. That right there is what I dislike about it. I don't like A1 either, although I wasn't getting an A1 vibe when I tried BP (hmmm, yeah I'll go with that abbreviation.) It tasted to me like someone had made a jelly out of mixing brown gravy into cherry jello and then put raw chunks of turnip and rutabega in it so the texture is 3/4 goopy and 1/4 tooth-breakingly dense. But lets go with your list and see what I do put on those things. Deli sandwich... I'd go with a good spicy mustard. Omelet, generally nothing (or at least no sauce). If anything, demi glace when I had omurice for the first time was actually pretty good. I had anticipated I'd have to scrape it all away. On a steak... once again, nothing. A pan sauce, like an au poivre, can be OK. But if a steak can't stand on its own, then it wasn't worth cooking in the first place. In a tablespoon? I don't know... Cholula?
 
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Yeah, that. That right there is what I dislike about it. I don't like A1 either, although I wasn't getting an A1 vibe when I tried BP (hmmm, yeah I'll go with that abbreviation.) It tasted to me like someone had made a jelly out of mixing brown gravy into cherry jello and then put raw chunks of turnip and rutabega in it so the texture is 3/4 goopy and 1/4 tooth-breakingly dense. But lets go with your list and see what I do put on those things. Deli sandwich... I'd go with a good spicy mustard. Omelet, generally nothing (or at least no sauce). If anything, demi glace when I had omurice for the first time was actually pretty good. I had anticipated I'd have to scrape it all away. On a steak... once again, nothing. A pan sauce, like an au poivre, can be OK. But if a steak can't stand on its own, then it wasn't worth cooking in the first place. In a tablespoon? I don't know... Cholula?
To each their own; I guess but my palette is no where near as particular as yours. If something tastes good, it's good by me, and Branston Pickle is one of those flavors that doesn't necessarily make a thing better, but can be enjoyed additionally.

But since you brought it up, let's talk about it: STEAK PURISTS.

I get it; a good steak, cooked to perfection, should be enjoyed on a plate by itself in the middle of an Antarctic desert a billion miles from any sauce or any other person where only God can hear you weep while you chew every bite of its perfection. Got it. Now, in the reality we all share, can you concede it might be possible to enjoy that same good steak... with additional flavors you also enjoy? I hate it when people piss on others who put stuff on their steak. Do the purist ever stop to think maybe they like the flavor of steak AND the flavor of A1 sauce? Adding A1 (or any sauce) isn't necessarily trying to make the steak better, it's just adding something "else." And maybe some DO think it's making it better; who's to say where the line between subjective preference and objective truth is drawn? Unless you're chewing your steak directly out of the rump of a living cow, your steak is just as dressed up as anyone else's. Stop looking down your nose at how other people enjoy their food.

(This isn't directed at you, @Kyrian007; just a general airing of a grievance I've always had.)
 
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But since you brought it up, let's talk about it: STEAK PURISTS.

I get it; a good steak, cooked to perfection, should be enjoyed on a plate by itself in the middle of an Antarctic desert a billion miles from any sauce or any other person where only God can hear you weep while you chew every bite of its perfection. Got it. Now, in the reality we all share, can you concede it might be possible to enjoy that same good steak... with additional flavors you also enjoy? I hate it when people piss on others who put stuff on their steak. Do the purist ever stop to think maybe they like the flavor of steak AND the flavor of A1 sauce? Adding A1 (or any sauce) isn't necessarily trying to make the steak better, it's just adding something "else." And maybe some DO think it's making it better; who's to say where the line between subjective preference and objective truth is drawn? Unless you're chewing your steak directly out of the rump of a living cow, your steak is just as dressed up as anyone else's. Stop looking down your nose at how other people enjoy their food.
The one thing I don't get with steak at all is those that like it well-done, that totally kills the steak. That's how my mom always cooked steak when I was a kid and I hated it, I thought I didn't like steak (until I had one cooked not well-done, my mom probably cooked it past well done). I think that maybe where putting ketchup or A1 comes from to a degree; parents that cooked steaks so bad you needed to put something on it. I have at least 2 other friends with the same exact story on how they also thought they didn't like steak because their mom cooked it well-done at home. I personally don't care for ketchup or A1 on steaks but stuff like garlic butter or mushrooms or some cheese and shrimp, go right ahead.
 
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The one thing I don't get with steak at all is those that like it well-done, that totally kills the steak. That's how my mom always cooked steak when I was a kid and I hated it, I thought I didn't like steak (until I had one cooked not well-done, my mom probably cooked it past well done). I think that maybe where putting ketchup or A1 comes from to a degree; parents that cooked steaks so bad you needed to put something on it. I have at least 2 other friends with the same exact story on how they also thought they didn't like steak because their mom cooked it well-done at home. I personally don't care for ketchup or A1 on steaks but stuff like garlic butter or mushrooms or some cheese and shrimp, go right ahead.
Can't necessarily relate because I ate steak so seldomly growing up, that I don't recall ever having a preference. It wasn't until early adulthood that I started eating it enough to have an opinion. In my 20s, I was "well done" because I equated a pink/red middle with "raw," and being a finicky eater as it was, "raw meat" didn't appeal to me. But as I got older, it got me curious why so many people opted for medium to rare steak, and I started edging towards the cliff. My first medium steak wasn't mind-blowing, but it didn't kill me either, so I bit one day (in my 30s, I think,) and ordered my first medium-rare steak. I winced when I cut in and saw the blood, but I bit in and, oh my God, I wasted so many steaks in my life.

I don't "need" anything on a steak, but I DO like the flavor of A1. I don't lather it onto the whole steak, but I do like a bit on the plate to dip every few bites. Not an offence to the steak, just a deference for a variety of flavor. I use it more as a side than a condiment, but people see me reach for it, and get all snooty. Go take a bite out of a cow, or accept that flavors are added throughout the process, and need not end when it's plated.
 
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I don't "need" anything on a steak, but I DO like the flavor of A1. I don't lather it onto the whole steak, but I do like a bit on the plate to dip every few bites. Not an offence to the steak, just a deference for a variety of flavor. I use it more as a side than a condiment, but people see me reach for it, and get all snooty. Go take a bite out of a cow, or accept that flavors are added throughout the process, and need not end when it's plated.
I guess I did really enjoy this sauce (I guess Korean BBQ sauce) on my steak at a Korean BBQ place where you cook the meat yourself. They give it to you in this tiny, shallow dish and I'm instantly in my head like "This is all you're giving me? I'm gonna need more in a few bites". But this sauce was like magical and never ran out 😸
 
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But since you brought it up, let's talk about it: STEAK PURISTS.

I get it; a good steak, cooked to perfection, should be enjoyed on a plate by itself in the middle of an Antarctic desert a billion miles from any sauce or any other person where only God can hear you weep while you chew every bite of its perfection. Got it. Now, in the reality we all share, can you concede it might be possible to enjoy that same good steak... with additional flavors you also enjoy? I hate it when people piss on others who put stuff on their steak. Do the purist ever stop to think maybe they like the flavor of steak AND the flavor of A1 sauce? Adding A1 (or any sauce) isn't necessarily trying to make the steak better, it's just adding something "else." And maybe some DO think it's making it better; who's to say where the line between subjective preference and objective truth is drawn? Unless you're chewing your steak directly out of the rump of a living cow, your steak is just as dressed up as anyone else's. Stop looking down your nose at how other people enjoy their food.

(This isn't directed at you, @Kyrian007; just a general airing of a grievance I've always had.)
One of the weirdest things about this, I'm not really a steak purist. I'm actually not much of a steak fan at all. At a restaurant I'll often go for a chicken or seafood option rather than steak. And my own requirements for what I consider a good steak, outstrip my own skills with a grill. So the only times I even have steak is choking down my friends' (or even worse... their wives) attempts at grilling a steak. Or going to a place with very special steaks, like hitting a Teppanyaki place and getting something with wagyu.

I did think of a sauce exception though. If I'm getting something that is either more rare than I like, or more well done than I like... horseradish can save it. Really nothing better than a prime rib endpiece (which is usually overcooked) and some horseradish.
 
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Bought more Marmite (addicted,) and some Vegemite for comparison. Vegemite is certainly thicker, more a paste than its British counterpart which is basically a syrup, but I find them similar enough in flavor to be interchangeable. Also got more Branston Pickle.🇬🇧

Finally, out of curiosity, decided to try my hand at one of DokaRyan's concoctions. Put some Cream Saver candies in some Malibu Rum, and letting it sit for a week. Looking forward to a tasty shot this Saturday.
 
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Anyone use HexClad cookware? Curious, because so far I’ve never found a nonstick that was worth a shit. This would be the last straw before switching to cast iron.
 
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Anyone use HexClad cookware? Curious, because so far I’ve never found a nonstick that was worth a shit. This would be the last straw before switching to cast iron.
I don't think Gordon Ramsay would attach his name to anything he didn't believe in, so I'd say it's worth giving it a shot. Maybe start with a single pan to try for yourself before spending hundreds to replace everything in your kitchen. But yeah, my limited experience with nonstick (however limited) has not been "as advertised." I recall a commercial that showed someone caramelizing peppermint candies down to a melty nightmare, and wiping the goop out with a paper towel like it was nothing for like $100 or some other ridiculously low number for such an impressive set of cookware. Yeah, I doubt it.

Anyway: RACE WAR!!! Probably not what Trump envisions, being so good natured and in good faith, but good to see "we the people" can celebrate our differences without hostility.

 

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Anyway: RACE WAR!!! Probably not what Trump envisions, being so good natured and in good faith, but good to see "we the people" can celebrate our differences without hostility.

To me, barbeque is getting some smoked meat and trying a bunch of different bbq sauces with it. Also, not a fan of ribs; give some brisket, pulled pork, turkey, etc.
 
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To me, barbeque is getting some smoked meat and trying a bunch of different bbq sauces with it. Also, not a fan of ribs; give some brisket, pulled pork, turkey, etc.
I'm a dry rub person myself. I find that sauces tend to make the meat a vehicle for flavor rather that the reason for the flavor. And that's fine with a good, thoughtful sauce, but if you're buying grade-A meats and just slathering generic store-bought sauce on it, you're wasting your time and meat. I don't mind BBQ sauce, but given the choice, I'll go for a rub every time.

Not a fan of ribs either; they're like 70% bone even when done to perfection, so yeah, I like BBQ I can sink my teeth into without worrying about breaking a tooth. My gf and I cook a brisket about once a year, usually for the OU vs. Texas game (The Red River Rivalry) when her brother comes down from Oklahoma and spends a drunken weekend with us. We splurge and get wagyu (about $200, hence once a year,) and we rub it down and "intend" on smoking it for 4 hours, but it ends up being around 2 as we tire of fighting fires or lack thereof in the smoker. I've not had "all" the briskets to know for sure, but I know I like ours better than others I've tried. No sauce required.
 

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I'm a dry rub person myself. I find that sauces tend to make the meat a vehicle for flavor rather that the reason for the flavor. And that's fine with a good, thoughtful sauce, but if you're buying grade-A meats and just slathering generic store-bought sauce on it, you're wasting your time and meat. I don't mind BBQ sauce, but given the choice, I'll go for a rub every time.
I don't prepare/cook it myself and I assume the sauce is made by the bbq place themselves vs just store bought. One place around here does a different sauce every month, their pineapple sauce is awesome.
 
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Just discovered a Jamaican restaurant near us that's been there forever apparently. Found it when I was getting nostalgic for the curried goat my Jamaican neighbor (and second mom) used to make for me when I was a kid, and Googled Jamaican cuisine. Went in, and the place is the definition of a "hole in the wall," maybe 6-8 plastic tables, kinda dingey, you can see from the front door to the back door, so the entire kitchen is exposed where you can see the "sausage being made" unadulterated by a singular heavy-set Jamaican woman with about 3 other people prepping and packaging orders. I ordered two of their curried goat plates for me and my gf.

Got the food home, and realized my first mistake: the portions are HUGE. One plate could have fed both of us TWICE. Second mistake? Not finding this place sooner. Oh my fucking GAWD, it is absolutely amazing food!!! It might be my new favorite place to eat; everything was absolutely perfect. And their prices are reasonable, to boot! It was like $16/plate, but I easily got $30's worth of food by quantity, $1,000 by quality. Praise Jah!
 
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Anyone use HexClad cookware? Curious, because so far I’ve never found a nonstick that was worth a shit. This would be the last straw before switching to cast iron.
I looked for years, trying to figure out the whole non-stick cookware thing. And what I eventually learned is it has nothing to do with material, shape, composition, price... It is all about proper seasoning. In my kitchen right now I have a copper pan and a big copper pot. I have 2 stainless steel skillets and a big cast-iron frying pan and stew pot. And I can do the whole "crack an egg on it and the egg just slides around with nothing sticking" on every one of them. And it is all because I have about 6 to 15 layers of oil seasoning baked into every one. It does leave them a little grungy looking, but the fact that nothing sticks to them and I've never paid more than $40 of any of them (and most were decidedly cheaper) makes me absolutely hate all the treated and coated garbage that I bought over the years that never worked. Any google search will tell you how to season a pan with oil. But most say 2 or 3 coats. Don't stop there. The more coats, the more coverage... the more non-stick it becomes. Then you just have to worry about not destroying the seasoning. It is a little hard to give up using dish soap to clean a pan. But properly seasoned, all it takes to wash a pan is a paper towel and some hot water.

Just discovered a Jamaican restaurant near us that's been there forever apparently. Found it when I was getting nostalgic for the curried goat my Jamaican neighbor (and second mom) used to make for me when I was a kid, and Googled Jamaican cuisine. Went in, and the place is the definition of a "hole in the wall," maybe 6-8 plastic tables, kinda dingey, you can see from the front door to the back door, so the entire kitchen is exposed where you can see the "sausage being made" unadulterated by a singular heavy-set Jamaican woman with about 3 other people prepping and packaging orders. I ordered two of their curried goat plates for me and my gf.

Got the food home, and realized my first mistake: the portions are HUGE. One plate could have fed both of us TWICE. Second mistake? Not finding this place sooner. Oh my fucking GAWD, it is absolutely amazing food!!! It might be my new favorite place to eat; everything was absolutely perfect. And their prices are reasonable, to boot! It was like $16/plate, but I easily got $30's worth of food by quantity, $1,000 by quality. Praise Jah!
Having a good Jamaican restaurant around is a real blessing. Closest one to me closed during the pandemic and still can't find a really good one nearby. And to add injury to that, my town's best Indian restaurant just closed. Our only restaurant serving African food closed down (I miss Jollof rice now) and I found out the hard way that the Peruvian place that just opened up is super expensive and not really that good.
 

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I went to a restaurant called thai city. They do both Thai and Chinese food. I've been there before and they got great customer service. I had the thai fried rice with crab meat. Really great.
 

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My guilty junk food pleasures are White Castle and Donatos Pizza. Since moving to Texas in 2010, I’ve only ever had them when I visit home back in Ohio, but my brother-in-[common] law informed me they're building a White Castle about 10 minutes from my house!! First in Texas; should be completed by Summer 2026; it'll be in The Colony, TX, an area that has seen a massive explosion of business over the past few years, and is extremely busy already. Then, my sister sent me a $50 Donatos gift card. I asked her how was I supposed to use it, and she sent me a link to a Donatos about 6 miles from my house!!

No, neither is fundamentally “great” food, but they’re tastes of home and guilty pleasures I’m excited to have close by after +15 years.
 

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My hottest food-related take: If you say that "fruit doesn't belong on pizza", and people I know have, you don't get to put tomato (chopped or sauce) on your pizza anymore. I don't make the rules; apparently, you do.

More seriously, what someone else puts on their pizza is none of your business.