The Great Step Forward

ThreeKneeNick

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Grey, I had this bizarre dream last night that you were the leader of my Guild Wars 2 guild and that you were an autocrat demanding we view and like Critical Miss comics...

I just thought I should let you know.
 

unacomn

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Nicolaus99 said:
Really Jaffe? $125K annual salary? Don't know what kind of flower scented fantasy world he lives in but the damn thing must be carved out of gold. Started to get a gag reflex every time I see his damn name come up.
Yea, I saw that and thought "Wait... no, that can't be right..." the I started crunching numbers.
Is he mocking me? Is he mocking that this profession yields fairly low revenue regardless of how hard you work, if you don't have an already massive audience to latch on to?

I get the same reaction every time I hear his name, I'm not even sure how it started, but I think it may have something to do with him being a bit of a prick.
 

Namechangeday

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It's funny without the context, but with it, I don't know where to start. I guess I'll start by asking how much does he know about this occupation? Plus, what happens when the Kickstarter doesn't reach its goal?
 

shrekfan246

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I like that David Jaffe mentions Jim Sterling as one of the journalist good guys.

No sarcasm, either, it's good to know a guy like him has got such a widely-heard voice in the industry.

Oh, and funny strip. I always have more trouble actually structuring what I'm going to type rather than spelling it though, so I imagine any editor working on my stuff would more likely go "Ugh, what do I have to move around in this one..." rather than "Ugh, let me re-type this up to be legible..."
 

lord.jeff

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unacomn said:
Nicolaus99 said:
Really Jaffe? $125K annual salary? Don't know what kind of flower scented fantasy world he lives in but the damn thing must be carved out of gold. Started to get a gag reflex every time I see his damn name come up.
Yea, I saw that and thought "Wait... no, that can't be right..." the I started crunching numbers.
Is he mocking me? Is he mocking that this profession yields fairly low revenue regardless of how hard you work, if you don't have an already massive audience to latch on to?

I get the same reaction every time I hear his name, I'm not even sure how it started, but I think it may have something to do with him being a bit of a prick.
His next line says that the $125,000 would be paying the salary of up to 5 people, making it something more like $25,000 a year salary which is pretty modest.
 

Eric the Orange

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What I find more hilarious than the strip it self is that, in predicting that some people wouldn't get it he posted the related article... and then some people still didn't get it.
 

Lono Shrugged

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I think Jaffe phrased the whole thing badly and didn't think it out. But he has a really good point.
There are very few journos who I follow in games (Jim being a good example) and the idea of holding them to account the greater population of gamers is a fantastic idea. It's not a replacement or suppressing of anyone, it's the concept of paying a good reviewer to provide a service. It's a nice twist on the crowd funding and supports quality and rewards someone who brings something to the table. It's a fantastic idea. And like all fantastic ideas, people will get involved and fuck it up. Great art today BTW.

I think the people being herded into the sea are the old guard and Jim and co. being the mega paid new gods of gaming. I guess that site editors are the only people who can spell.
 

Alek The Great

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lord.jeff said:
unacomn said:
Nicolaus99 said:
Really Jaffe? $125K annual salary? Don't know what kind of flower scented fantasy world he lives in but the damn thing must be carved out of gold. Started to get a gag reflex every time I see his damn name come up.
Yea, I saw that and thought "Wait... no, that can't be right..." the I started crunching numbers.
Is he mocking me? Is he mocking that this profession yields fairly low revenue regardless of how hard you work, if you don't have an already massive audience to latch on to?

I get the same reaction every time I hear his name, I'm not even sure how it started, but I think it may have something to do with him being a bit of a prick.
His next line says that the $125,000 would be paying the salary of up to 5 people, making it something more like $25,000 a year salary which is pretty modest.
He actually explained it better in his video and he meant that he hopes the kickstarter will raise enough so that as many people as possible could get a $125k salary. I think he just chose it to be 5 people in total as it seems like a decent number.

I don't think he was genuinely trying to insult any game journalists and I think he really believes that uncompromising journalists such as Jim deserve that kind of pay. As he said, he's not sure how much any one of them makes and he apologized if he undershot the amount. As for overshooting, I don't see why he would need to apologize for what would then be incredible generosity if people do make much less.

He expands on his idea in the video in that journalists would then be unrestricted and could potentially research and write about any industry related topic without the fear of not having enough traffic thus compromising their pieces to make them more eye-catching.

What I don't agree with (and the comic is about) is that he doesn't think editors are all that necessary. He does go on to say in his video that if the belief is that editors are needed (which they are) they can split the $125k salary right down the middle with the editor.

I think it's a neat idea that would likely need a bit of refinement to work.

tl;dr He suggested $125k for each of 5 writers and thought that's a deserving amount for noteworthy game journalists. I think it's a neat (if slightly unrefined) idea.
 

unacomn

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lord.jeff said:
His next line says that the $125,000 would be paying the salary of up to 5 people, making it something more like $25,000 a year salary which is pretty modest.
You mean this line?
"Posted by da criminal at 2:40 PM 30 comments"
 

The Diabolical Biz

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I've found it more funny than anything because I only just now conquered my spelling of 'necessary'. I kept switching the c's and the s's.
Neck-ess-ary, minus the 'k'.
Handy way to learn it - necessary - one collar, two sleeves. Necessary is a shirt, just like a shirt is necessary. At least where I come from.

Aside from that, cracking comic. Particularly enjoyed the art.
 

Rad Party God

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Well, it seems one can do much without an editor.

We need a hi-res version of the first panel. It's godly and epic.
 

Mahoshonen

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This idea is older than dirt. Everyone knows Shakespears line: "Kill the Lawyers," but no one remembers the context (its two drunk guys discussing what they'd do if they were in charge-they're not meant to be taken seriously)
 

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I suspect that $125,000 a year is quite high for a games journalist- at least one who isn't directly getting paid by the PR department of a game publisher.

I'm also not at all sure that $125,000 is enough for a games journalist to burn all bridges that might allow them to find work after that "golden year" is up.

Chrono212 said:
Now, call me crazy, but isn't what Mr. Jaffe suggesting similar to, but not identical to, what the BBC does?
I like the BBC, and I frequently feel it does a better job of presenting the news than many alleged news channels in the United States. But it does seem to occasionally come under threat when individuals or groups in the government decide that they don't approve of its activities or how its spending its money, somewhat undermining its appearance of independence. Much like Public Broadcasting in the U.S..
 

Chrono212

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Callate said:
I suspect that $125,000 a year is quite high for a games journalist- at least one who isn't directly getting paid by the PR department of a game publisher.

I'm also not at all sure that $125,000 is enough for a games journalist to burn all bridges that might allow them to find work after that "golden year" is up.

Chrono212 said:
Now, call me crazy, but isn't what Mr. Jaffe suggesting similar to, but not identical to, what the BBC does?
I like the BBC, and I frequently feel it does a better job of presenting the news than many alleged news channels in the United States. But it does seem to occasionally come under threat when individuals or groups in the government decide that they don't approve of its activities or how its spending its money, somewhat undermining its appearance of independence. Much like Public Broadcasting in the U.S..
As I go on to say, the Royal Charter prevents government from explicitly meddling with the internal editorial affairs of the BBC.
 

Callate

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Chrono212 said:
As I go on to say, the Royal Charter prevents government from explicitly meddling with the internal editorial affairs of the BBC.
...Yes, I did read the entire post, thanks. I understand how it's supposed to work. I'm also aware that Margaret Thatcher sacked the director of what she viewed as a "bloated, extravagant, anti-Conservative BBC" in 1987 ([link]http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/media-blog/2013/apr/12/margaret-thatcher-television-press[/link]). And that the public nature of the BBCs funding does make it vulnerable to criticism, charter or no charter. ([link]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/business/media/24bbc.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0[/link])
 

LazyAza

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It's weird how I both love and hate david jaffe at the same time. He's a very smart man that often says a lot of smart things but sometimes yeesh he's as naive and arrogant as anyone else when it comes to discussing game journos.

Fun fact: good game journalists don't even like being called game journalists.