The Griffon dies???

[Casual Shinji]

WARING: Contains spoilers from Ico & Shadow of the Colossus.

It seems since the release of the trailer form The Last Guardian, people on the net have some kind of prior knowledge about the ending of this game. Saying that ol' heartstring puppet-master Fumito Ueda is going to off the griffon at the end. Because apparently he did the same thing in Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. But looking at his last two games; what do they base that on? In Ico & Shadow of the Colossus NOBODY DIES. OK, the Queen dies in Ico and the colossi die in SotC, but none of the main characters do. They become separated during the game, but are reunited at the end even though Wander becomes a kind of an atavism of his former self.
So, does anybody else feel it's a bit misguided that people (even games-journalists) jump to conclusions, not just about The Last Guardian, but about all games that they really don't know to much about yet?

PS: I've been wanting to use the word "atavism" for a long time.

 

[Pandalisk]

Meh people can make assumtions, and when they play the game they will find out, i dont really care what they "Think" may happen, if they tell me its blatantly obvious this will happen i tell them to shut the fuck up.

In the next Bond film James bond will have sex with a woman... Lets see if my assumtion on that comes true

i surppose they assume he will die because its something typical to happen in movies and books, its the "norm"

Is this game connected somehow to Ico and SOTC storylines?.

 

[Ironic]

WARING: Contains spoilers from Ico & Shadow of the Colossus.

It seems since the release of the trailer form The Last Guardian, people on the net have some kind of prior knowledge about the ending of this game. Saying that ol' heartstring puppet-master Fumito Ueda is going to off the griffon at the end. Because apparently he did the same thing in Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. But looking at his last two games; what do they base that on? In Ico & Shadow of the Colossus NOBODY DIES. OK, the Queen dies in Ico and the colossi die in SotC, but none of the main characters do. They become separated during the game, but are reunited at the end even though Wander becomes a kind of an atavism of his former self.
So, does anybody else feel it's a bit misguided that people (even games-journalists) jump to conclusions, not just about The Last Guardian, but about all games that they really don't know to much about yet?

PS: I've been wanting to use the word "atavism" for a long time.

It's because the griffon and boy's relationship is far to idyllic and perfect to last from the trailers. Maybe they'll introduce another likeable character... who dies.

>.>

 

[Proteus214]

It's a conclusion based on what those two games set up and where they ended. In Shadow of the Colossus, they get you to empathize with the protagonist and his struggle to bring back his forbidden love, and then the whole scenario gets smashed to shit by the end what dreams were to come true were broken. Sure, nobody really "died" per se, but it was sad nonetheless.

So now we have this game where we have a boy who has endeared himself to a huge misunderstood monster and they are trying to escape together or fight off some evil forces (can't really tell too much from the trailers). How can this situation be manipulated to have the biggest emotional impact? My money's on the baby griffon dying.

Is this game connected somehow to Ico and SOTC storylines?.

There is supposed to be a lot of connections to be made here. The same shadow demon things from Ico were in Shadow and both contained the "child with horns" theme. The soldiers in Last Guardian look a lot like the soldiers at the end of Shadow of the Colossus as well as the various locales in which it takes place.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Meh people can make assumtions, and when they play the game they will find out, i dont really care what they "Think" may happen, if they tell me its blatantly obvious this will happen i tell them to shut the fuck up.

In the next Bond film James bond will have sex with a woman... Lets see if my assumtion on that comes true

i surppose they assume he will die because its something typical to happen in movies and books, its the "norm"

Is this game connected somehow to Ico and SOTC storylines?.

Probably the same world in different times. Like in Ico you had switches and sewer-pipes while in SotC everyting was much more primitive.

 

[Pandalisk]

Meh people can make assumtions, and when they play the game they will find out, i dont really care what they "Think" may happen, if they tell me its blatantly obvious this will happen i tell them to shut the fuck up.

In the next Bond film James bond will have sex with a woman... Lets see if my assumtion on that comes true

i surppose they assume he will die because its something typical to happen in movies and books, its the "norm"

Is this game connected somehow to Ico and SOTC storylines?.

Probably the same world in different times. Like in Ico you had switches and sewer-pipes while in SotC everyting was much more primitive.

i Think that this game comes before SOTC which comes before ICO, but thats all in my personal Theroy, The Boy in Last guardian could be the Protaganist in SOTC Who finds love but must then save her, though if thats true one can assume the Griffon died at some point, at the end of that He is turned into a baby and grows horns, like the protaganist in ICO,they could be one in the same

im not sure what the time stretch between all the games are, and the theroy is probably wrong but meh, my 2 cents there.

 

[Casual Shinji]

How can this situation be manipulated to have the biggest emotional impact? My money's on the baby griffon dying.

I don't doubt there'll be an event in the game that jerks a few tears. I just think team Ico isn't gonna go the easy way and have it just die to make us cry. They could've done the same thing in Ico or SotC, but they didn't.

 

[Mr Companion]

In shadow of the colossus agro, your loveable horse(or at least he is supposed to be lovable but he drove me nuts) Drops down a massive canyon, he may have not died but you do think he does for a little while. It wasn't an actual death per say but it was a "no! not my slightly annoying horse! What will I do without him?" moment that is consistent with the previous games death scenario, or so I hear. People are assuming this third game, since it is featuring an adorable kitten/gryphon thing, will likely impose a similar situation because the developer may not want to pass up the chance to extract emotional response from its audience.

So there you have it, a clear description of the subject that you are confused about.

 

[Sigel]

The gryphon is too cute and likable. I see an untimely death in it's future or I am just being really pessimistic.

 

[Casual Shinji]

i Think that this game comes before SOTC which comes before ICO, but thats all in my personal Theroy, The Boy in Last guardian could be the Protaganist in SOTC Who finds love but must then save her, though if thats true one can assume the Griffon died at some point, at the end of that He is turned into a baby and grows horns, like the protaganist in ICO,they could be one in the same

im not sure what the time stretch between all the games are, and the theroy is probably wrong but meh, my 2 cents there.

Maybe in the end it's just the visiual style of the game-designers. There probably is no time-line between the games. It's just us being great big contemplating nerds.

 

[blunted]

I thought Yorda died at the end of Ico. And for all intents and purposes, the Wanderer died at the end of SOTC, reincarnation notwithstanding.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I thought Yorda died at the end of Ico. And for all intents and purposes, the Wanderer died at the end of SOTC, reincarnation notwithstanding.

They met up at the beach in the end.