The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug Debuts Elf-Heavy Trailer

sir neillios

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knight steel said:
The special effect look................really obvious, I mean some of the scenes just took me right out of the moment thinking "that looks so fake" hopefully this gets fixed before it is released.
That was the first thing I thought, I'm all like.... this looks like a video game trailer. I dunno maybe I've got extreme nostalgia goggles for LoTR, but I don't remember it looking that bad. Smaug at the end there looks like a bluescreen effect from the nineties. I'm not exaggerating either to appear edgy like some people do over these trailers, parts of it genuinely made me think that it looks cheap.
 

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This film looks disgusting! Does Peter Jackson have a hard-on for CGI nowadays? It sure seems that way. Also the ultra bright visuals make it look like it is set in the Trine universe not Middle-earth, 90% of the beautiful New Zealand scenery is gone.

Also I don't remember The Hobbit being so action packed.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
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This is still a trilogy, right?

Forgive me, it's been a long time since I read the book, but if Smaug is in the second movie, what is the third going to be about?
Most likely about the battle of the five armies.
I've guessed that since the beginning.
A battle which lasts less than five pages in the original novel, and which the book spent more pages focusing on the horrible aftermath of is going be stretched out for 3 hours? Oh joy.

I can't wait to see how Peter Jackson manages to take the horrors of war and fill them with skateboarding elves again.

well to be fair "the lion witch and the wardrobe" had that huge battle scene for like the last 45 mins and that was 2 pages so it can be done.

OT: gonna see it, most likely gonna love it.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
No no no no no no no!

All this portentious dialogue? Elf armies going after the barrels as they ride away? Azog leading armies of Orcs?

This isn't the Hobbit.

I was kind of hoping after getting part 1 out of the way, Peter Jackson would start sticking closer to the book in part 2. Instead, he seems to be going even deeper into the realms of fanfiction.

The Hobbit was never supposed to be a heavy piece of mythmaking. It was a pisstake of heroic myths. It was the story of your average Arthur Dent and 13 incompetent dwarves constantly bungling their way across Middle Earth in order to burgle some gold. It was never supposed to be a serious heroic epic, and even Tolkien himself admitted that rewriting it as such would have made it no longer 'The Hobbit'.

And before anyone brings it up, no, they're not bringing in the backstory from the appendices. The backstory from Unfinished Tales happens nothing like how the films portray it. By the time of the Hobbit, Gandalf already knew Sauron was back, and was simply planning how to get rid of him. This badly written "Has Sauron come back"? 'mystery' tied with an orc character who was supposed to be dead before the story ever began have just shown that Peter Jackson really doesn't give two shits about the original material, he just wants to write bad soap opera fanfiction in Middle Earth.

The first Hobbit film was disappointing. I doubt I'm going to waste time on the second.
We are in complete agreement. When I first heard the were making three movies out of the book I thought it would be cool to see all the stuff that went on when Gandalf left the group. But no. What we've actually gotten might as well be called Michael Bay's The Hobbit, Suck On That Epic Fantasy Action You Nancy Boys. Watching Jackson try to "out cool" the source material is about as painful as the scene from Austin Powers where Dr. Evil tries to show Scott he's hip by dancing the macarena. If you don't think the source material is up to the task how about making your own story and not fucking up someone else's.

Oh well at least this will get me prepared for how badly they'll pervert Eder's Game out of all recognition.
 

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The fighting scenes were a bit much in the Hobbit, but I'd like them to delve into the other aspects of it all. Even if it isn't all aligned perfectly, with the book, it's still a well done adaption.
 

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It´s a shame that these movies had to be made into overblown action movies, it would have worked so much better as an 80s styled fantasy movie :/. The trailer looks better than the first though, but i´m still sceptical because the first one was such a bland and boring movie. I hope they hired a new editor this time around, it would be nice if you could actually see what was going on in the action scenes^^.

I´m still stunned that the three LOTR movies are made by the same guy who made King Kong and The Hobbit. What the hell happened?
 

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new trailer released, commence whining and bleating about how PJ is ruining the story, and I'm sitting here going "that looks awesome as hell, I'm a wanna piece of that"
 

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I'm so torn... on the one hand, I hated An Unexpected Journey and I hate this trailer too, but on the other hand, I hate the Tolkien purists who complain about the LotR and Hobbit movies just as much.

So much fucking teal and orange. Look at Legolas', Gollum's and Gandalf's eyes. FUCKING LOOK.

Now, if you excuse me, I'll go back to the trilogy that actually felt like it was made by people that cared.

 

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knight steel said:
The special effect look................really obvious, I mean some of the scenes just took me right out of the moment thinking "that looks so fake" hopefully this gets fixed before it is released.
Just my two cents, but I'm thinking maybe it's not the final render? Particularly with Smaug at the end there. Honestly, the first time I saw this I figured it was leaked footage which a fan had cobbled togther, and that was primarily from the text floating over the map bits.

I won't jump on the 'this movie is dead to me' bandwagon, but I do think they've made a questionable decision to try straddling the humourous fantasy sendup that was the original text and the more serious epic that is the LotR series. On the other hand, I can kind of see why they did this - the success of the LotR means they hadda make a trilogy. Not doing so just wasn't an option. And, despite the source material, they had to go straight with it. Three movies of dwarven slapstick just wouldn't have held, and where LotR required the story to edit and hone a vast amount of material to a keen edge, three movies based on the Hobbit requires precisely the opposite. To paraphrase Bilbo, you've got to spread a small amount of butter over quite a lot of bread. So I can forgive quite a lot of invention and re-interpretation as I simply don't see how they could've done it otherwise.

That being said, I'm certainly hoping Beorn doesn't get Tom Bombadil-ed just because he's not an orc / elf / goblin / hobbit / human.
 

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I'm just very surprised about all this elf-jumping during barrel-ride, partially because I don't recall that elves were even aware that dwarves got away, and partially because I don't recall them being such ninjas in fighting style.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
The Hobbit was never supposed to be a heavy piece of mythmaking. It was a pisstake of heroic myths. It was the story of your average Arthur Dent and 13 incompetent dwarves constantly bungling their way across Middle Earth in order to burgle some gold.
I see what you did there.



Because Martin Freeman played Arthur Dent and now he's playing Bilbo... And that Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy film was a terrible film and one of the worst adaptations ever, so maybe I should just shut up about it.