The idea that backing down is a sign of maturity
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The idea is not that you back down. You avoid conflict. Make yourself out to be someone nobody wants to fuck with, without doing it aggressively.Wayte said:
It is hard to explain over the internet. Basically, if someone is antagonizing you, don't lash out at them, stand tall, look them in the face, (avoid being aggressive, you want to be something they don't want to fight, NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FIGHTING THEM). Firmly explain your issue.
Do this and most people will back off of you, you avoid issue and everybody else knows you aren't susceptible to any of that bullshit.
P.S. I am 17, in highschool. Trust me, this works ALL THE TIME.
In addition, it allows you to keep on good footing with any friends of your enemy, as well as your enemy himself.
Backing down is a natural response to disagreements between members of the same social group.
The wisdom lies not in the avoidance of hopeless fights, but in the avoidance of useless ones.
The wisdom lies not in the avoidance of hopeless fights, but in the avoidance of useless ones.
It isn't a 'sign of maturity' - it's a way of self-preservation. Animals do the same; they will attempt to flee and only fight if it's really necessary. Which is the thing your parents and teachers have tried to tell you with different words (and probably without this realization) - don't fight if you do not have to.
It doesn't make you 'the better man', though - that is indeed something that has been made up by the ruling powers (not specifically referring to the government here) to make you lay low. Probably, once again, because they lack the realization of what I've just mentioned.
It doesn't make you 'the better man', though - that is indeed something that has been made up by the ruling powers (not specifically referring to the government here) to make you lay low. Probably, once again, because they lack the realization of what I've just mentioned.
All of that Rand worshiping ignores the fact that most of the people posting on this site (myself included) wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the heap when it comes to having power in a war of all against all. It'd be like middle school for the rest of existence.PedroSteckecilo said:
No, I don't listen to Kenny Rogers. But, I also don't agree with the sentiment. The concept of military prowess being tied to manhood may be fine and good, but few people I know with any kind of military training (either actual combat training, or martial arts) would choose to fight when there are other options.SimuLord said:
What proves you're more of a man is the discipline and presence of mind required to make that decision. Almost anyone can throw a punch, very few can walk away. Go ask a soldier which type of person (the one who can walk away, and the one who doesn't) watching their back. I'd wager most would rather serve with someone who doesn't feel the need to prove his masculinity, 'cause that's the dumbass who gets your balls shot off.
I'll always defend my principles but I would never start a fight to prove them.
But when that's irrelavent it becomes a numbers game.
I think I could handle 2 maybe 3 at best, guys in a fight. But I certainly wouldn't choose a situation where I'd take on more than one opponent. If there's a group, I'll talk my way out. If that fails, run.
But when that's irrelavent it becomes a numbers game.
I think I could handle 2 maybe 3 at best, guys in a fight. But I certainly wouldn't choose a situation where I'd take on more than one opponent. If there's a group, I'll talk my way out. If that fails, run.
I think, walk away over stupid arguments that won't affect you in the long run before they turn violent, but always fight for what you think is right.
I belive in avoiding unecessary hostility, and walking away from a fight is usually a good thing.
But, I also believe that some people just deserve to get their asses kicked, and if that's the case I won't back down even if I know I should. Sometimes kicking a persons ass is a great equalizer, and it could also prevent the person who deserved it from acting out again in the future.
But, I also believe that some people just deserve to get their asses kicked, and if that's the case I won't back down even if I know I should. Sometimes kicking a persons ass is a great equalizer, and it could also prevent the person who deserved it from acting out again in the future.
Your just thinking of this now? Seriously that's really an opinion thing, personally don't think any common method for really any moral issue is a solid proper or improper thing. I avoid conflict when possible, unless I have a clear advantage in a fight, in which case I just intimidate my opponent enough that he reconsiders, or I smack them around just a little bit and get them in a position where they know they got there ass kicked. Like I said, opinion thing.
I back down all the time unless its something that I REALLY care/dislike about. I hate getting into useless fights or arguments. Doesn't work with my lazy lifestyle. I like it when its peaceful and serene.
I would sooner submit to the idea that walking away from a fight makes you the better man, instead of leaving that call up to whether or not you've had sex, like my generation does.
I would rather my maturity be decided by my discretionary abilities instead of whether or not I've knocked up some drug-addled, trick-dizzy, cum-sucking drag queen.
I would rather my maturity be decided by my discretionary abilities instead of whether or not I've knocked up some drug-addled, trick-dizzy, cum-sucking drag queen.
