The Lara Croft Redesign

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Paragon Fury

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So many of you may know my opinion on the new Lara Croft "design". Which for those still unaware, goes a little something like this......




While re-reading my Tomb Raider issue of Game Informer today, I a though occured to me. My mother loves Tomb Raider - she has beaten every single one multiple times, except for the ones on the 360 (because I own the only 360 in the house). She still plays some of the older ones on PC to this day. And I wondered what she, a long time Tomb Raider and Lara Croft fan would think of the design.

So I took my magazine and showed her the cover with the mug-shot of Lara on it (which has no Tomb Raider related give-aways on it) and asked her what she thought of it, and who she thought it was.

She didn't know. I then turned and flipped to the full-body shot in the magazine, taking care to cover her name and the paragraph title. I asked again. She still didn't know. Then I showed her the the title of the article, and that is was Lara Croft she had been looking at.

Her first response was "That doesn't look anything like Lara Croft at all. It looks like a completely different character from a completely different game."

Her next response was "Why does she look like that?" to which I gave the gave the answer of the game is supposed to be a sort of re-start for the series, and that they wanted to make her look more "grounded" and "realistic".

"But she isn't supposed to be "realistic". She is supposed to be a fearless, beautiful treasure hunter who goes anywhere and does pretty much anything. This Lara looks like a random, average college student who looks like she'd shit herself at the sight of a large dog, much less having to fight a pack of wolves moments into her first adventure. If they're trying to "fix" the series, why would they mess with the part that really never had anything "wrong" with it?"

I shrugged; I don't have an answer to that. Of course the point was driven even further home when after I shrugged she added "And I'm not going to lie; from that mugshot, if it wasn't for the lips, you wouldn't be able to tell if that was a man or a woman. Lara always had way more feminine features than that."

Its just one example, but I think it makes the point pretty clearly; when someone who loves the games and has played pretty much on releases ever since they came out cannot recognize the main character on sight, but rather has to be told and shown who it is, you've gone too far. For all intents on purposes, it might as well be a different character.

And they don't even have the same out that the new Devil May Cry Dante does, in that the "new" Dante will wind up looking more like the "old" Dante by the end of the new game, since its supposed to explain how he wound up like that.

Unless Lara gets some serious plastic surgery, "new" ain't looking like "old" ever again.
 

mindlesspuppet

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I love the redesign.

I think the more realistic proportions make a much more attractive character than the Lara of old.

I do agree with your mom though, she does look like she's fresh out of college, I think that's kind of the point. I imagine she'll grow more "sexy" as she becomes more experienced, more jaded, etc.

The Tomb Raider franchise hasn't been held in very high regards over the years, distancing itself from its past can only be a good thing in my mind.
 

SaetonChapelle

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I have no issues with this new Laura. I love the old games, and I feel even with her new look I will enjoy the new ones.

I have to agree, on several group conversations in clubs and meetings I have had the chance to bring up Laura. I have had to attempt to prove that our gaming industry is not "childish" by featuring unrealistic females with giant breasts and rears purely to showcase sexuality in games. If she was a buff male (Uncharted?) she might have done as well. However this is in 1996. New pixals, new gaming style. People just starting to get into video gaming hard core. Many of them young males. Sexuality hit.

I Love Laura, I do, but let's face it. Her games are not selling nearly as well. Many female gamers are joining the league. Kuto's to your mum for loving the series but not a lot of females join in. Many people want someone they can more identify with. A hot super model, awesome, but not really fitting the bill.

This is just my two cents, I might be very wrong. However I must say I still love this design. I'm very excited for this and Devil May Cry. A character getting a hair cut and smaller breasts will not take away the feeling, at least for me.
 

Da_Schwartz

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I could care less about a redesign. I just want a good tomb radier game, it's been far too long. Even harder nowadays with games like uncharted to compete with. gl with that ol girl!
 

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I think it looks good, she looks more like a proportioned human being now but
ATTENTION DEVELOPERS!
you do NOT make a strong female character by making her manly, the original Laura Croft was fairly feminine and flirtatious then she turned into the emotionless tough girl that everyone expects from games and abandoned every personality aspect that made her female. so far the best representation of a strong female character is Bayonetta.
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/20608/1238292-bayo_bayonetta_super.jpg
so quick checklist
strong willed and doesn't need a man but is still attracted to them and shows it: check
still maintains a love for stereotypically "Girly" things because she personally enjoys them and knows it doesn't make her "weak": check
in touch with and in complete acceptance of her sexuality: check
maternal instinct without being "Baby crazy" or wanting children: check
one statement in Bayonetta summed up the whole character
"Do I look like I enjoy children? well making them, that's another story"
wow that was quite a rant.
 

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I guess since your mom hasn't played any of the old ones she might be getting a more drastic appearance change, Lara's appearance looks like a redesign of her legend era design, it's still noticable in the eyes.
She's also gone down a few sizes.

She still noticeably looks like Lara Croft to me.
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Never played much of Tomb Raider so i have no opinion here. But show me a picture of the new Dante and i will shoot down empires to say how much it sucks.
 

Paragon Fury

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RatRace123 said:
I guess since your mom hasn't played any of the old ones she might be getting a more drastic appearance change, Lara's appearance looks like a redesign of her legend era design, it's still noticable in the eyes.
She's also gone down a few sizes.

She still noticeably looks like Lara Croft to me.
She's played every single Tomb Raider except the new one on 360/PS3 and the "Guardians of Light" on XBLA.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
She's played every single Tomb Raider except the new one on 360/PS3 and the "Guardians of Light" on XBLA.
Did she play Legend? That one was technically part of the last generation, Xbox and PS2.
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
I approve of the realistic redesign, but not the gritty dirt all over everything.
Think she's got time to take a shower while rolling in mud and avoiding getting shot or eaten by everything? Bet she uses Dove.

I thin she's fine. If Laura showed up all pretty and primp I wouldn't take the game seriously at all.
 

lacktheknack

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Actually, chest aside, she looks like a cross between Legend, Anniversary, and college girl.

Personally, I adore the new look, but I hope it doesn't turn into a "stapled-on franchise for publicity" move (like Silent Hill 4). If not, this is one of my two must-buys for 2011.
 

lacktheknack

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SaetonChapelle said:
A character getting a hair cut and smaller breasts will not take away the feeling, at least for me.
Maybe I'll stop getting poison darts and steel arrows through the chest, too. Not even kidding, I was killed in Tomb Raider by getting a big steel arrow through the boobs. Nipple piercing, eat your heart out!
 

Tarkand

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Hmm, I never played much Lara Croft to be honest, but... to me this look like Lara Croft who took a few punches to the face - I don't quite get what the 'zomg! redesign!' thing is about.

Aside from the busted lips/nose/forehead... what exactly is so different from the 'old' Lara Croft? Is the fact that she's anatomically correct and not wearing short-shorts that big of a deal?

Edit: Just did a quite search to get an image of a 'recent' lara croft game [http://jbourrie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Lara-Croft.jpg]...

To me, the core difference are:

- New Lara looks like she could actually exist as a person (i.e. Her body isn't some fantasy).
- She's dressed in a much more practical way, that would imply field work in a warm environment while still being practical enough to be used in a fight.
- She looks like she actually has been doing field work and fighting in a warm environment.

Yeah... try as I may, I can't help but like the new design better than the old one. I'm not a big fan of the fact that she looks like she's been kicked in the face tho.
 

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SnootyEnglishman said:
Never played much of Tomb Raider so i have no opinion here. But show me a picture of the new Dante and i will shoot down empires to say how much it sucks.
I prefer the old Dante, but I kinda like the new one, he just probably won't look as good as the old one...well, till he turns into the old one.
Hooray for prequel ^^

OT: I have a friend who has played and showed me the Tomb Raider series, and we both think Lara looks better this way. She used to be this big chested woman who wore makeup which NEVER seemed to be affected by the environment. This one makes her seem more 'woman friendly' and more TOMB RAIDER.
 

SaetonChapelle

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lacktheknack said:
SaetonChapelle said:
A character getting a hair cut and smaller breasts will not take away the feeling, at least for me.
Maybe I'll stop getting poison darts and steel arrows through the chest, too. Not even kidding, I was killed in Tomb Raider by getting a big steel arrow through the boobs. Nipple piercing, eat your heart out!
Ow..... just... ow... xD They might just be two large targets. "aim here~" We can reduce this possibility~!
 

Paragon Fury

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Tarkand said:
Hmm, I never played much Lara Croft to be honest, but... to me this look like Lara Croft who took a few punches to the face - I don't quite get what the 'zomg! redesign!' thing is about.

Aside from the busted lips/nose/forehead... what exactly is so different from the 'old' Lara Croft? Is the fact that she's anatomically correct and not wearing short-shorts that big of a deal?
If you put all the different Lara's in a line, this new design would the one that doesn't look anything like the others.

She has no ass.

She has no chest.

She barely has any hips.

If it weren't for the lips, you'd have a hard time telling it was a woman and not just a very lean man.

She has no self-confidence. She doesn't look determined or prepared or in charge of anything, much less being a hot, smart, ass-kicker. She looks like she's just ready to go back and cry in her dorm room over a cup of express-o , not like she's ready to goo retrieve the most valuable treasures the world has ever known.

Hell, though we obviously don't have the game yet, I'd put this up there with the level of character destruction that went on in Metroid: Other M.
 

JourneyThroughHell

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Nah, it's alright.

In fact, I think this redesign is pretty awesome and this Lara Croft is one I would rather play as than the last one.

I don't know why, but the realisticness makes her more believable and somewhat more attractive.
 

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Drakmeire said:
I think it looks good, she looks more like a proportioned human being now but
ATTENTION DEVELOPERS!
you do NOT make a strong female character by making her manly, the original Laura Croft was fairly feminine and flirtatious then she turned into the emotionless tough girl that everyone expects from games and abandoned every personality aspect that made her female. so far the best representation of a strong female character is Bayonetta.
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/20608/1238292-bayo_bayonetta_super.jpg
so quick checklist
strong willed and doesn't need a man but is still attracted to them and shows it: check
still maintains a love for stereotypically "Girly" things because she personally enjoys them and knows it doesn't make her "weak": check
in touch with and in complete acceptance of her sexuality: check
maternal instinct without being "Baby crazy" or wanting children: check
one statement in Bayonetta summed up the whole character
"Do I look like I enjoy children? well making them, that's another story"
wow that was quite a rant.
Ugh, Bayonetta makes me want to vomit.

I think you're giving to much credit to Lara Croft's progression as a character, and not enough to the fact the a lot of Tomb Raider games were just plain bad.

There are plenty of examples of prominent female characters in games that aren't ridiculous a la Bayonetta.

Jill Valentine of Resident Evil
Seemingly no attempt was made to make her "sexy" or flirtatious, yet she's a very popular character. (same could all be said for Clair Redfield, not quite as popular though).

Catherine Archer of No One Lives Forever
Great female character, ton of personality, very head strong, never came off as overly sexualized.

Samus Aran of Metroid
Let's pretend The Other M doesn't exist for this one. Samus rose to popularity as a silent protagonist, all while rarely ever even hinting at the fact that she's female.

Aya Brea of Parasite Eve
She might have the look, but she acts like a damn guy.

Jade of Beyond Good & Evil
No explanation needed here.

Point being game dev's shouldn't and don't have to appeal to horny teenagers to make a successful game with a female lead character.


SaetonChapelle said:
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I Love Laura, I do, but let's face it.

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Just not quite enough to get her name right?