The Last of Us Developer Disputes Claims of Sexism

Imp_Emissary

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Dragonbums said:
Exactly why did they decided to revisit an old article and make comeback to it?

It's like the equivalent of coming back 10 minutes later after you got the smack down to make your own comeback because you just thought of a genius insult while your were stewing in your private place.
Well, maybe they've just been to busy to respond?

They have been hard at work on the games DLC after all.

@_@ Or at least they better have.....
*Cleans Ellies knife*
 

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I honestly don't get the kerfuffle in this comment section. Nothing in the original article strikes me as particularly distinct in its assessment of sexism in a game, and the author does make some interesting points regarding some elements in The Last of Us that could be considered in some way sexist, or at the very least typical of an industry that routinely puts out things of that nature. Mr. Suellentrop

It's a sort of odd in between here; on the one hand it's a goddamn miracle that there is more than one female character in the game at all. Fuck, there's even a subtle gay character in the game, that's a gift from heaven. For what it's worth, Ellie is exceptionally well characterized, along with Tess and a few others, and the intro sequence is brilliant (though a thought occurred to me, would it have been as effective if it was a son instead of a daughter? I honestly wonder).

On the other hand, these women, who for the most part are represented character-wise well enough, tend to be subjected to tropes and situations despite this generally positive portrayal. One or two are killed off primarily to raise the emotional stakes of the story (though to be fair similar things happen to equally developed male characters), and as well as Ellie is portrayed, the interactions with her are fairly limited to distinct areas and points in the game. She's even violently attacked, with heavy sexual overtones, and while I am not fully convinced that that particular scene ended up using Ellie's trauma as character progression for Joel, there is an angle to that scene that does make me ponder a bit on TLoU's use of women as plot device and makes me question the character progression of both Ellie and Joel.

Errant Signal [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAzqDgKYfiM] did a very good video on TLoU that I couldn't help but think of. As good as TLoF is, and it is an exceptionally well made game, there was something niggling about it in the back of my head that I ignored until I saw this video. As I said, it is exceptionally well made, but well you look deeper into its elements it's really only polishing existing concepts and mechanics that games have brought up over the past decade or so. None of that makes it a bad game, not by a long shot, but it does make me question what I consider to be a "good" game over a "great" one.
 

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Wait, there were people who claimed TLOU was sexist? what is this i dont even....

deathbydeath said:
Drummodino said:
[HEADING=2]ABORTING THREAD[/HEADING]
Yes, please.

Also, while I think that claiming that TLoU pushed the industry forward with regards to female characters and sexism is silly and those people should actually play games (FF6 came out 19 years ago with multiple awesome female PCs shut up), but it's certainly not sexist. That's all I'm speculating, though, because I can't be arsed to purchase games for 60 USD up front. Fuck the police.
Isnt it sad that game chracters have regressed that much in 19 years that something that was the norm then is groundbreaking now?