The latest Battlefront 2 trailer is 5 minutes long.

Squilookle

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So here it is- everything laid out clear as day to see how much more the EA sequel contains compared to it's lacklustre forebearer:


My take on it? they can just fuck off already.

yes, it looks better than the 2015 game, and yes it looks much closer to the game we were actually asking for for ten (now 12) years.

But it's not good enough. Not just as a game, I'm talking about as a business.

If you buy this game, you tell EA it's OK to make a bullshit shell of a game demo and release it as a preorder for over $100. If you buy this game, you tell EA it's just fine to use your money to make tech demos and get you to bug test it for them so they can release the real game 2 years later. If you buy this game, you tell EA that spectacle and flashy trailers mean more to your decision to buy than proper gameplay, longevity, and trust between buyer and seller.

Twelve years it's taken them to make something vaguely on par with the proper Battlefront 2 from 2005. They tried cutting corners in 2015 with the first EA Battlefront, and despite rightly getting slammed from all sides people still bought it, only to abandon it a month or two later.

Doesn't matter to EA- they got your money. Job done.

Now they're out to try it again, and I don't know about you but I'm not standing for this shit. No matter how good it is, I can't in good conscience put money down on it and still call myself a gamer, because to buy this game is to feed this horrible cycle that grinds the buyer more and more under the indifferent jackboot of publishers that pursue profit margins over utterly anything else. And I'm sick to death of it.
 

Zhukov

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Huh. John Boyega has British accent. I mean, I know that shouldn't be a surprise, but it still kinda is.

Ahem. Anyway. I think the game looks like fun.

I've been kinda hankering for a new MP shooter since tiring of Battlefield 1, Overwatch and Rising Storm. Star Wars really isn't my thing, but if the gameplay is sufficient then I can put up with the pew-pew crappiness.

The single player... ehh. Really cool idea but I have zero faith in Dice's capability to make a campaign of even average quality.

I didn't buy the previous Battlefront because I'm not an idiot. I did a bit of research first and checked out the beta.

I really don't give a singular flying fuck if buying the sequel makes me not a Real Gamer or whatever.
 

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Sounding kind off pretentious there, buddy.

The game looks fun and like a big improvement from the first game, I'll be getting it and probably enjoy it a lot, I don't care if it revokes my ''gamer license''.
 

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Going to be honest... the Clone Troopers and Droids, with voices straight up ripped out of the Clone Wars cartoon, had me going for a bit. They really did.

But then I remembered what Battlefield is, and I got a hold of myself.

Looks pretty as hell though, doesn't it?

EDIT: Kind of off topic... is Obi-Wan not a Clone Wars era hero? Lame, he should totally be Maul's opposite. is Ian McGregor's face too expensive?
 

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Squilookle said:
Look, I despise EA as much as the next guy around here...maybe even more, seeing as how I've boycotted all of their products from the past decade or so (with the exception of Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes on mobile, and even then I've only been a F2P player). I also enjoyed the Pandemic Battlefronts and was appalled to hear about how bare bones and blatantly greed-driven the reboot was.

But you know what? I'm seriously considering buying this game, because it appears they've learned their lesson and are focused on making a good game that lives up to the Battlefront legacy first and foremost instead of a hollow shell as a vehicle to sell exhorbitant DLC and season passes (mostly...I'll get to that later). Consumers vote with their wallets after all, and I'd like to think my action of buying Battlefront II (2017) would send a message to EA that THIS is more along the lines of what I expect from the franchise.

Having said that, I'm still not going to blindly preorder or buy at launch. I'll wait it out a bit first, get a feel of the game from sources I trust. I still have some serious reservations about the game, particularly its reworked battle card system. The mention of lootboxes and crafting to upgrade them smacks of "pay-to-win" shenanigans, which is something I abhor in any game. Unless it's something I can breeze through within a few hours of offline play, such a mechanic could be a deal breaker for me.
 

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the first game was faliure. dont know why the are bothering with sequel but with tack on SP campaign to feature female protagonist to apeal feminist.
 

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B-Cell said:
the first game was faliure. dont know why the are bothering with sequel but with tack on SP campaign to feature female protagonist to apeal feminist.
...because any female character is appealing to feminists.

By your own logic, any male character is appealing to men's rights activists.
 

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Can someone explain to me why we shouldn't be paying for a game if it ticks all the right boxes?

I'm not saying that this does (I'll be keeping an eye on user reviews and gameplay once it's released, didn't even consider buying the first reboot), but surely there's no point in denying ourselves a cool experience because of past wrongs.

Yes, definitely don't buy games that exhibit the traits that are outlined in the OP.... but if said dev/publisher then rights those wrongs on subsequent releases, what message does it send if people take the OP's stance?

To me, it kinda says that there's no point in listening to the community as they're just going to hold a grudge endlessly anyway.

And that doesn't help anyone.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
But you know what? I'm seriously considering buying this game, because it appears they've learned their lesson
Yup. It actually looks pretty badass. And with offline arcade mode you don't have to worry about being unable to play when their servers go down eventually.
 

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Zhukov said:
Huh. John Boyega has British accent. I mean, I know that shouldn't be a surprise, but it still kinda is.
Well, he does play a former Imperial and Imperials have British accents, because they're evil (and because Lucas cast a lot of Brits for the OT). I mean, beside Boyega also actually being British.
 

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Looks miles better than the first (and I still actually had a lot of fun with that game).

Hopefully, this game knocks it out of the park, and we get the Battlefront game that is worthy of the name. We can only hope. A New Hope, if you will.

Dare I say it, but I am actually excited.
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
"You did bad before, so don't bother trying to do good now. You're rotten and will always be."

Did I encapsulate your argument well enough, OP?
You been living under a rock since 1995 or something mate? Are you OK?

It's more like 'You did bad, again. You routinely do bad, your entire business model is wringing the maximum money out of the minimum amount of effort, and you expect us to pay hand over fist for it'

So not so much 'always will be' as it is 'demonstrably always has been, and showing no signs of change yet'
 

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Squilookle said:
The Rogue Wolf said:
"You did bad before, so don't bother trying to do good now. You're rotten and will always be."

Did I encapsulate your argument well enough, OP?
You been living under a rock since 1995 or something mate? Are you OK?

It's more like 'You did bad, again. You routinely do bad, your entire business model is wringing the maximum money out of the minimum amount of effort, and you expect us to pay hand over fist for it'

So not so much 'always will be' as it is 'demonstrably always has been, and showing no signs of change yet'
QFT: I was about to quote a response just like this but you've gone and saved me the trouble. Thanks and +1