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Ares Tyr

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I hate it.

Not really, but I hate the training environment that they put you through. I mean, I understand basic combat training should be hard and suck, but I don't see why I need to be treated like a retarded five-old serial rapist/drug dealer in order to learn how to be a proper Paralegal Specialist for the Army. BTW- I just graduated Advanced Individual Training and I am free of that shit.

But enough about my military experiences. Anybody here in the military? Considering the military? Know people in the military?


Also, hello again. I'm back.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Considering the Army, going to look into a mechanics type position. They treat everyone like that because well, some people that join are well, stupid. Others aren't but they don't have the time in a large inpersonal organization like that to single you out and treat you differently.
 

Chickenlittle

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I'm seriously considering it. I'd likely go into General Infantry, or enter as a Combat engineer. The training is the only qualm I have about it.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Chickenlittle said:
I'm seriously considering it. I'd likely go into General Infantry, or enter as a Combat engineer. The training is the only qualm I have about it.
My buddy O'Conner joined the marines and said as long as you are in good shape then it's not that bad. You just have to accept all the bullshit for what it is and everything is fine.
 

Chickenlittle

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Chickenlittle said:
I'm seriously considering it. I'd likely go into General Infantry, or enter as a Combat engineer. The training is the only qualm I have about it.
My buddy O'Conner joined the marines and said as long as you are in good shape then it's not that bad. You just have to accept all the bullshit for what it is and everything is fine.
Did I mention my endurance has turned to shit in the last year?
 

The Iron Ninja

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[HEADING=1]Ares Tyr is back![/HEADING]

I don't know anyone in the military personally, but my country isn't particularly militaristic.
For New Zealand, the Army is thought of as "Those dudes that show up if the police are really really busy."

Actually now that I think about it, a friend of mine tried to get into the air force after college, but I think they didn't let him in due to his health or something.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Chickenlittle said:
Hunde Des Krieg said:
Chickenlittle said:
I'm seriously considering it. I'd likely go into General Infantry, or enter as a Combat engineer. The training is the only qualm I have about it.
My buddy O'Conner joined the marines and said as long as you are in good shape then it's not that bad. You just have to accept all the bullshit for what it is and everything is fine.
Did I mention my endurance has turned to shit in the last year?
Might want to work on that then...
 

Ares Tyr

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I want to go into the army after I get my degree, but my parents will never let me
That's funny. My Dad is a Sergeant First Class and was the one who recruited me.
 

Chickenlittle

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Chickenlittle said:
Hunde Des Krieg said:
Chickenlittle said:
I'm seriously considering it. I'd likely go into General Infantry, or enter as a Combat engineer. The training is the only qualm I have about it.
My buddy O'Conner joined the marines and said as long as you are in good shape then it's not that bad. You just have to accept all the bullshit for what it is and everything is fine.
Did I mention my endurance has turned to shit in the last year?
Might want to work on that then...
Yes, I most definitely will need to. If I do decide to join, they'll pay for my education too.
 

Arcticflame

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Chickenlittle said:
or enter as a Combat engineer.
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SPY SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY!

Had to be done.

As for the topic at hand, I would hate to go through the training they put you through (or at least from what I have heard about it I would), but I'm not convinced it isn't required.

A few of the techniques like bastardisation is a bit much though.
 

McClaud

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Former Air Force here.

Seeing as how I worked in a training squadron for a few months as acting First Shirt -

You think basic training is a stressful mindgame? Wait until you are in real combat - you'll realize that basic training is a cakewalk in comparison.

The deal with basic being so mentally exhausting and somewhat humiliating is that it achieves a few main objectives:

1. You gain pride when you accomplish a task. In your head, you start going, "Yeah, I did it. Fuck you, Sergeant." Trust me, drill instructors know. They can see self-confidence start to form when you start doing things better and faster, just to show them up.

2. It eliminates a sense of independence among your platoon. Once everyone (well, almost everyone) is broken down to the basic element and treated the same, you start working together. I mean, teamwork makes everything EASIER, right? You gain some pride in your team as well, since you all came from the bottom to graduation.

3. It teaches attention to detail. It may seem like a pain in the ass to remake your bed in a certain way perfectly every day and hang all your uniforms in the same way. Or keep your foot locker organized in a particular way. And all the beds aligned, and boots underneath lined up. But think about this - when you do that, how much faster did you pick everything else up? You got in the mindset of paying attention to detail. Of course, no one gives a shit about that stuff out of training except on inspections in barracks.

4. It weeds out the people who don't have the patience or mindset for the military. When the shit hits the fan, you have to snap to your training in a heartbeat. If you can pass the tests in the end, you are probably never going to forget how to clear a barrier or move in formation quickly to another area instead of running around like headless chickens. It's funny - I know fresh recruits out of training at a glance because they don't walk on the grass and walk with their hands closed. It's good to fall into the old habits when it comes time to go to war.

5. It's tradition. If this shit was easy, you'd die in the field tomorrow. This ain't a cakewalk, son. Hold your chin up and be proud you made it through.

EDIT: I agree that some drill instructors are way out of their boundaries when training. You won't believe how many of these people keep getting called to the post to be warned about their insane, cruel methods. Ever wonder why some drill instructors never last or old ones eventually get replaced? Because they tend to push the limit too often and get bounced back to regular duty due to their big mouths and chuckle-headed ideas.
 

Monkfish Acc.

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When I was younger, I considered the military. Various fantasies involving guns made me think it might be "cool".
Of course, then I realized I think war is silly.
 

Chickenlittle

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Arcticflame said:
Chickenlittle said:
or enter as a Combat engineer.
>.>
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SPY SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY!

Had to be done.

As for the topic at hand, I would hate to go through the training they put you through (or at least from what I have heard about it I would), but I'm not convinced it isn't required.

A few of the techniques like bastardisation is a bit much though.
DIE DIE DIE!!!!

Had to be done.
 

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Ares Tyr is back?
My day keeps getting better!

And on the Military issue...
Who cares!
Ares is back!
You'll find a fair bit has changed...
 

Pimppeter2

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Ares Tyr said:
pimppeter2 said:
I want to go into the army after I get my degree, but my parents will never let me
That's funny. My Dad is a Sergeant First Class and was the one who recruited me.

My dad served in the greek army, its more that it would worry my mom to death.

Do you still serve? what branch?
 

Samurai Goomba

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I have chronic health problems, so I'd probably fail the physical.

But I also have no desire whatsoever to enter the military at any point in my life. I'll likely vote against any politician who wants to bring back the draft.
 

Lord Beautiful

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My brother used to be in the Army. He graduated the fourteen week basic training at Benning and went Airbourne afterwards. Luckily, he managed to get out before he could be deployed in Baghdad. He fucking hated the military.