The Most Disgusting Film Ever made (A Serbian film)

[Wadders]

Urgh, why would you even watch something like that? What normal person would derive any enjoyment from such a film?

You don't watch films like that for "enjoyment" of the action going on on-screen, but for the enjoyment of the fact that the film might have a really profound impact on you emotionally (even though in a severely uncomfortable manner).

I haven't seen this one though, but im considering it since I guess im curious what all the fuss is about. But I have seen Irreversible, which has quite a nasty and full frontal rape-scene that made my blood pumping (no from arousal though mind you, but from genuine rage and despair).

It's not "pretty" to watch, but it's not meant to be "pretty" either. Art doesn't have to be "pretty". In fact, some art has to be ugly to get the point across...

Well shallow as it may sound to some one who is so obviously into the arty-rape film genre, I watch films entirely for entertainment. Sure I get emotional during films, but the only emotion these kinda movies would convey to me is disgust. Why on earth anyone would want to watch a film that has a guy forced to rape his own son and other such pedophilic/ necrophilic themes is beyond me.

What point is that sort of film trying to get across exactly? That rape and necrophelia and other such stuff is abhorrent? Well shit, do you really need to sit through 110 minutes of weird torture porn to realise that?

I'm sure there are other ways of "getting your blood pumping" that dont make people think you're a freak.

 

[me and my dog]

REALLY? You need to show newborn children getting raped to make a point about the government's control on citizens (or whatever the supposed message was)?

That's just... no.

I think the only message I gathered from reading the description was "This guy needs years of therapy". Though I am curious... Wouldn't that make this film class as child porn in some way or another?... Either way, if I was the police, I'd be keeping a close eye on him.

No,therapy won't help. This guy should just die and go to hell forever. That's the only appropriate punishment.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Well shallow as it may sound to some one who is so obviously into the arty-rape film genre, I watch films entirely for entertainment. Sure I get emotional during films, but the only emotion these kinda movies would convey to me is disgust. Why on earth anyone would want to watch a film that has a guy forced to rape his own son and other such pedophilic/ necrophilic themes is beyond me.

Well, for starters it would be interesting to see if it actually LOOKS like the guy is raping his own son. I mean for all I know the entire scene could be cheesy and unrealistic in the extreme and thus make all the fuss mae about it pretty unfounded.

If it does look realistic and make me disgusted however, then kudos to the filmmakers. Apparently they were inventive enough to fool my keen senses and make me genuinely disgusted.

It's not that I have problems visualizing why the very CONCEPT would be disgusting, but a concept is just a concept after all and not an entire film. And you can't just judge a film based on it's concept/premise.

What point is that sort of film trying to get across exactly? That rape and necrophelia and other such stuff is abhorrent? Well shit, do you really need to sit through 110 minutes of weird torture porn to realise that?

Erm, somehow I doubt that the point would be such an obvious one.

I'm sure there are other ways of "getting your blood pumping" that dont make people think you're a freak.

So your main gripe is that you're concerned of what "other people" might think of you for watching a movie with a fictional story?

Wow, talk about being over-sensitive of others opinions...

 

[mynameismoik]

A lot of people will instantly assume after reading some of the plot outlines that it's just a sick and twisted film for sick and twisted people... I'm not gonna lie, it's a hard film to watch, there are some very disturbing scenes in it, the twists at the end are for a word... GRIM

The thing is though it's a film that after a slow start suddenly grips you by the balls and doesn't let go until it's over, like some of the best exploitation films... You get a sense of feeling for the characters in such a way that if (God forbid!) you found yourself in a similar position it gets you thinking what would you do? How would you react / deal with it?

Whether it's because you're angry, disgusted, upset, arroused or whatever at the film, it absolutely batters you on an emotional level which is why I'd go as far to say it was still a good film.

Not only that but the possibility that something like it could actually be happening somewhere in the world definitely gets your mind working! I can see this film struggling to get a cinema release over here or anywhere for that matter!


As for people getting sick / passing out etc... It's just a movie! But maybe if you've not seen some of the older "extreme" movies then you may want to break yourself in with those first =P

 

[Burningsok]

OK Yes.. disgusting!!! and it keeps getting worse until "Milo jams his erect penis into the man's empty eye socket, killing him." That... is... ...how... I Don't... understand. It's not even fucking (no pun intended) remotely necessary.

 

[GDW]

"A Serbian Film" was a fascinating piece. I enjoyed it, thoroughly, even without its merits as a social commentary. It was beautifully shot and truly shocking, I don't think a single moment or action was taken for granted and it was just a fun and utterly disgusting. It's all extremely visceral, realistic and utterly human, in the most twisted sense, but that all adds to it.

"Salo" is a different beast, entirely, but an equally amazing film. Not as disgusting in a visceral sense, and certainly nothing compared to De Sade's book. It is, however, one of the only somewhat respectful adaptations of the man's work, and stands as an utterly beautiful and unique work of it's time.

I don't see why we're having a "disgusting movie" comparison, here.
They're great movies. I advise them to anyone who enjoys a nasty film that's disturbingly well made.

..."The Human Centipede" was mediocre at best, and doesn't stand to compare to either of these. It was nothign more than wannabe Cronenberg body-horror.

 

[baseracer]

Meh, Begotten is probably more fucked up.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/

 

[GDW]

Meh, Begotten is probably more fucked up.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/

"Begotten" is a boring, drawn-out 90 minutes I'll never get back. It misses the entire point of surrealist film and does it's best to choke as much of Jodorowsky's cock down as it can.

It's awful. Avoid it and watch the director's much better later films.

 

[Sovvolf]

Actually, you may want to check out Saw III, as it manages to be an okay movie, but more importantly, redeems the second one by giving it necessary story and back-text that the movie itself didn't seem to think about too much in its pursuit of the gore FX. The rest of the series.. well.. meh. They certainly expand on the back story of Jigsaw in the later ones, which is kind of interesting, but unless you're a person who's heavily into horror movies in general, probably not much there.

Ho, don't get me wrong. I love horror movies. Though I no longer class Saw or Hostel as horror movies. There more thrillers or torture porn than anything else. I love horror movies, but I'm not into gore movies. That's not to say I don't like gore or that I find it disgusting. No, I just don't find it all that interesting... Yeah it was shocking at first but eventually it just gets boring. The problem with the later Saw movies is that they try and rely just on this while trying to find new ways to justify the movie existing. Horror movies can be as gory as they want as long as they remember to be suspenseful and most importantly scary. That's the main problem with those films being classed as horrors... They aren't in the least bit scary. There just gory.

My favourite horror movies are movies like The Fog (The original), Halloween (Original), Salem's Lot or The Decent. Now most of those movies are practically blood less. Some blood here and there but not excessive types. The Decent had a fair amount but it was often too dark to see that. However they where suspenseful and above all else, scary. They let the imagination do the work, the sound track did the rest. We didn't need to see decapitations to have us on the edge of our seats... We where gripped to know what happened next.

Though as with Saw 3.. I will admit it's not the worse of the bunch... I watched it through and I did think it was alright however the film ends with a sequel hook which just turned me off... Why couldn't we just let these movies end already. They'd tied quite a few lose ends with the third act and well it all should have ended there. Wasn't the best of the series but I can justify it's existence for tying up the lose ends of the series. However there shouldn't have been any more after that... So I go back on my earlier statement and say that I lost interest after the third movie.

 

[Wadders]

Well shallow as it may sound to some one who is so obviously into the arty-rape film genre, I watch films entirely for entertainment. Sure I get emotional during films, but the only emotion these kinda movies would convey to me is disgust. Why on earth anyone would want to watch a film that has a guy forced to rape his own son and other such pedophilic/ necrophilic themes is beyond me.

Well, for starters it would be interesting to see if it actually LOOKS like the guy is raping his own son. I mean for all I know the entire scene could be cheesy and unrealistic in the extreme and thus make all the fuss mae about it pretty unfounded.

If it does look realistic and make me disgusted however, then kudos to the filmmakers. Apparently they were inventive enough to fool my keen senses and make me genuinely disgusted.

It's not that I have problems visualizing why the very CONCEPT would be disgusting, but a concept is just a concept after all and not an entire film. And you can't just judge a film based on it's concept/premise.

What point is that sort of film trying to get across exactly? That rape and necrophelia and other such stuff is abhorrent? Well shit, do you really need to sit through 110 minutes of weird torture porn to realise that?

Erm, somehow I doubt that the point would be such an obvious one.

I'm sure there are other ways of "getting your blood pumping" that dont make people think you're a freak.

So your main gripe is that you're concerned of what "other people" might think of you for watching a movie with a fictional story?

Wow, talk about being over-sensitive of others opinions...

I guess I just cant get to grips with why you would want to be made to feel disgusted. But whatever floats your boat. Live and let live 'n all that.

It just seems so pointless to me though. I can understand uncomfortable scenes in a film that is centered around other events, they can increase your emotional investment and make you dislike or pity characters etc, but for a film to be based wholly on that premise seems silly. It seems to be more of an excuse to make a rape porn film and justify it under some arty bullshit. I doubt whatever the point of the film is (if indeed it has one) it would be something that can only be expressed through the medium of corpse-fucking and child raping...

And yeah you're right as far as other peoples opinions go. Your friends may be more open minded than mine, 'cos if I told my mates I like to watch films like these then I'm not sure they'd wanna hang out with me any more. Which would suck.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm all for uncomfortable allegories, but some things simply go too far.

I'm not sure where I draw the line, but I know which side "A Serbian Film" is on.

 

[Sovvolf]

I doubt whatever the point of the film is (if indeed it has one) it would be something that can only be expressed through the medium of corpse-fucking and child raping...

Apparently, from what I've read, the film is supposed to be a metaphor for what the government is doing to them. Though I could be wrong about that.

I guess in hindsight it does(rather hilariously)try to make a point. The fellow doing the raping is the government and apparently the government is (metaphorically)raping it's own children, (metaphorically)raping babies, (metaphorically)raping the women and (metaphorically)raping the dead.

Thinking of it like that, it does sound sort of hilarious... Like an over the top reaction some one would make at an office party, grabbing two Kens dolls and shoving them against each other while drunkenly screaming "See this... This is what the boss is doing to me". Though I haven't actually seen the film, just read it and it seems to take it way too serious for there to be any humour here.

 

[LostAlone]

If I had to say off the top of my head, 'Philosophy of a knife' is the most messed up movie I've seen.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0961119/

The thing that makes it hard to watch for me is that its based on reality (Unit 731 during WW2), and there is some archive footage in there, and documentary testimony. It makes it hard to know if you are watching real people dying (archive stuff) or dramatization. Also, its LONG. Like 4ish hours. And there is no plot (well kinda, but no dialog or non-related scenes), just nasty nasty things. History books say things like 'atrocities' and 'war crimes' and 'human experimentation' without much of an idea what that really means. Philosophy shows EXACTLY what they mean.

I found it hard to get through. Watch in two sittings.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

I guess I just cant get to grips with why you would want to be made to feel disgusted. But whatever floats your boat. Live and let live 'n all that.

Well, if it can help you understand it, I play games like Silent Hill 2 in order to scare myself. But horror isn't a "pleasurable" feeling.. I mean, it's the thing we are normally supposed to feel in situations of intense fear for our very lives, and something that should teach us to stay away from such situations.

But we like getting "spooked" by good horror games anyway.

It's kind of the same thing with films like these. You want to get AFFECTED somehow. And yes, it might be a bit extreme. But after having seen a lot of movies and played a lot of games I NEED "extreme" to feel anything.

The crap movies that Hollywood churns out with it's equally crapy actors doesn't make me feel anything at all really. It works as mindless and emotionless entertainment, but it's been a pretty long time since your average hollywoodflick actually made me FEEL for the characters in it, because they're rarely believable at all, and the actors suck.

It just seems so pointless to me though. I can understand uncomfortable scenes in a film that is centered around other events, they can increase your emotional investment and make you dislike or pity characters etc, but for a film to be based wholly on that premise seems silly. It seems to be more of an excuse to make a rape porn film and justify it under some arty bullshit. I doubt whatever the point of the film is (if indeed it has one) it would be something that can only be expressed through the medium of corpse-fucking and child raping...

That may be, but they chose the corpse-fucking, child-raping path as a medium this time around. Im not gonna judge it until I've seen it. It might be very effective after all, in it's own disturbing way.

And yeah you're right as far as other peoples opinions go. Your friends may be more open minded than mine, 'cos if I told my mates I like to watch films like these then I'm not sure they'd wanna hang out with me any more. Which would suck.

Yeah, I guess it would. Still, it's too bad your relationship with your mates has to look like that.

I mean, it's not as if the movie is showing actual events of real people getting raped and mutilated IRL. It's just fiction. And it seems kind of silly to distance yourself from a person simply because they watch a fictious work, right? (well... Aside from the Twilight franchise that is )

 

[YepGeddon]

Well that made me feel uneasy just reading the plot..

 

[Captain Booyah]

All I could think while I was reading A Serbian Film's Wiki description was that it just sounded like really, really screwy fanfiction more fucked up than the usual variety...

 

[Wadders]

I guess I just cant get to grips with why you would want to be made to feel disgusted. But whatever floats your boat. Live and let live 'n all that.

Well, if it can help you understand it, I play games like Silent Hill 2 in order to scare myself. But horror isn't a "pleasurable" feeling.. I mean, it's the thing we are normally supposed to feel in situations of intense fear for our very lives, and something that should teach us to stay away from such situations.

But we like getting "spooked" by good horror games anyway.

It's kind of the same thing with films like these. You want to get AFFECTED somehow. And yes, it might be a bit extreme. But after having seen a lot of movies and played a lot of games I NEED "extreme" to feel anything.

The crap movies that Hollywood churns out with it's equally crapy actors doesn't make me feel anything at all really. It works as mindless and emotionless entertainment, but it's been a pretty long time since your average hollywoodflick actually made me FEEL for the characters in it, because they're rarely believable at all, and the actors suck.

It just seems so pointless to me though. I can understand uncomfortable scenes in a film that is centered around other events, they can increase your emotional investment and make you dislike or pity characters etc, but for a film to be based wholly on that premise seems silly. It seems to be more of an excuse to make a rape porn film and justify it under some arty bullshit. I doubt whatever the point of the film is (if indeed it has one) it would be something that can only be expressed through the medium of corpse-fucking and child raping...

That may be, but they chose the corpse-fucking, child-raping path as a medium this time around. Im not gonna judge it until I've seen it. It might be very effective after all, in it's own disturbing way.

And yeah you're right as far as other peoples opinions go. Your friends may be more open minded than mine, 'cos if I told my mates I like to watch films like these then I'm not sure they'd wanna hang out with me any more. Which would suck.

Yeah, I guess it would. Still, it's too bad your relationship with your mates has to look like that.

I mean, it's not as if the movie is showing actual events of real people getting raped and mutilated IRL. It's just fiction. And it seems kind of silly to distance yourself from a person simply because they watch a fictious work, right? (well... Aside from the Twilight franchise that is )

I dont watch horror films/ play horror games. Call me pussy, but I dont enjoy getting scared by films and games. That's just me though
I still manage to feel for characters in less graphic films. I still cry at Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, films like Eastern Promises and Raging Bull have fantastic characters to get to grips with and effect me profoundly. I too watch a lot of films but that doesnt make me dead to anything but the most brutal sexual violence.

As far as distancing oneself from a person who watches films like these, I can see your point. Just beacuse someone likes these films for whatever reason, dont neccessarily mean theyre some kinda messed up sadist. However films such as this are entirely non-standard for my circle of friends. If I suddenly came out of the blue and told them I watched a film where a guy (real or not, if it looks real enough then it should feel real, as you pretty much said yourself) got skullfucked to death through their eye socket, I'd probably get some very weird glances to say the least.

But whatever, go ahead watch the film and get what you want out of it, I just dont think I've got the kind of mind that will let me watch one of these movies all the way through.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

The Human Centipede.

Not even gonna bother linking.

beat me to it. I like to think that I am not scared easily. but thats the thing about this one. I wasn't scared, the whole thing was just disturbing to the point that thinking about it makes me sick. I don't recommend even looking it up out of curiosity

I recommend looking it up for a laugh. Seriously, The Human Centipede was just stupid.