the most powerful jedi/sith ever
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Exar Kun for reasons stated above. Furthermore, despite being dead for 4,000+ years he was able to:
1) Kill one of Luke Skywalker's early apprentices just by touching him, and mentally influence the rest to various degrees.
2) Help Kyp Durron telekinetically pull a doomsday weapon out of the center of a gas giant, and then help him blast Luke's spirit right out of his body.
3) Mentally activate a trio of grotesque sphinx-like creatures forged by Sith alchemy waaaay back during his reign and send them off to destroy Luke's comatose body.
He is possibly the only Sith to ever have anything resembling an active 'ghost' after death. This is likely because he was a Jedi before his turn, plus whatever it was he did with the Massassi people on Yavin 4.
Jedi won't be mentioned here often, as the Dark Side offers more raw power and the Jedi who are that powerful don't go around showing it off like Sith do.
I would have liked to say Darth Caedus due to just how many different techniques he had mastered including a limited form of time-travel, but he was slain before he ever really got to show his potential, and likely still wasn't quite as accomplished as Sidious.
1) Kill one of Luke Skywalker's early apprentices just by touching him, and mentally influence the rest to various degrees.
2) Help Kyp Durron telekinetically pull a doomsday weapon out of the center of a gas giant, and then help him blast Luke's spirit right out of his body.
3) Mentally activate a trio of grotesque sphinx-like creatures forged by Sith alchemy waaaay back during his reign and send them off to destroy Luke's comatose body.
He is possibly the only Sith to ever have anything resembling an active 'ghost' after death. This is likely because he was a Jedi before his turn, plus whatever it was he did with the Massassi people on Yavin 4.
Jedi won't be mentioned here often, as the Dark Side offers more raw power and the Jedi who are that powerful don't go around showing it off like Sith do.
I would have liked to say Darth Caedus due to just how many different techniques he had mastered including a limited form of time-travel, but he was slain before he ever really got to show his potential, and likely still wasn't quite as accomplished as Sidious.
Strength is not measured in destructive force. I believe Yoda was the most powerful Jedi, mostly because he refused to give into his power and use it to change the universe as he saw fit. Rather he allowed the Force to flow through him and guide him.
In active power though...
1. Mace Windu, master of the shatterpoint.
2. Corran Horn, because despite is inability to use telekinesis he can absorb energy (a *rare* force power) and direct it as he wills.
3. Kyle Katarn, getting stabbed through the chest with a lightsaber and surviving makes him a badass.
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi, he was the perfect jedi that never strayed from his path.
5. Potentially Ben Skywalker
In active power though...
1. Mace Windu, master of the shatterpoint.
2. Corran Horn, because despite is inability to use telekinesis he can absorb energy (a *rare* force power) and direct it as he wills.
3. Kyle Katarn, getting stabbed through the chest with a lightsaber and surviving makes him a badass.
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi, he was the perfect jedi that never strayed from his path.
5. Potentially Ben Skywalker
Yea I am going to go with this one. He was a Jedi literally created to be Samuel L. Jackson, I don't see how anything could be stronger than that.Crimson_Dragoon said:
especially when in the original clone wars miniseries he takes on 6 jedi, including 3 masters!Rakkana said:
The literal answer is "whomever The Force currently favors to work it's will". Understand that "The Force" isn't some personal form of mysticism people master entirely due to their own abillity. It's a sort of governing entity that guides the universe through cycles with good and evil each having their periods of "control" with a period of balance in between. "Star Wars" is the story of an age of good coming to an end to be replaced by an age of evil. This is why the prophecy (sent by The Force) is that Anikin will bring balance to The Force, for the good guys who were in control the only place for them to go was down. Darth Sidious made the mistake of thinking that he was going to be the ruling force of the new age of evil, he was not, he was a tool to bring about the transition point. Vader achieves balance by killing all the Jedi, and then killing The Emperor. Luke being sort of a tool to get him to do both.
In an age of evil, whomever rules The Sith is probably the most powerful guy around. In an age of good, it would be whomever leads the Jedi. In an age of balance, neither side has any real advantage and probably doesn't have anyone on that power level.
At the time of "The Old Republic" games, I'd imagine it's fundementally an age of evil coming to an end, albiet the majority of the evil was located out there in the Sith empire. The big guns for The Sith would logically be feeling the force becoming "cloudy" (as many of the Jedi put it) and their powers reducing accordingly. The end result of this period is that The Sith and their empire are going to be wiped out so totally that come the end of the next cycle (in the Star Wars movies) nobody will know for sure what a Sith even was.
In an age of evil, whomever rules The Sith is probably the most powerful guy around. In an age of good, it would be whomever leads the Jedi. In an age of balance, neither side has any real advantage and probably doesn't have anyone on that power level.
At the time of "The Old Republic" games, I'd imagine it's fundementally an age of evil coming to an end, albiet the majority of the evil was located out there in the Sith empire. The big guns for The Sith would logically be feeling the force becoming "cloudy" (as many of the Jedi put it) and their powers reducing accordingly. The end result of this period is that The Sith and their empire are going to be wiped out so totally that come the end of the next cycle (in the Star Wars movies) nobody will know for sure what a Sith even was.
I'm gonna have to put my vote down for Jacen Solo for both the Sith and Jedi side. He went and got super strong with the force during the Yuzenvong invasion and drove hem off, and then he fell to the Dark Side and tried to destroy the Jedi and the Galactic Alliance. I never did find out how it all ended though, I couldn't find the books.
I really don't see how anyone could argue against Darth Nihilus. Why is he so underrated? He became so powerful that he could suck the Force out of entire planets. He didn't even have a body anymore, he infused himself with his armor. If the Exile did not stop him (which to this day I do not understand how) Nihilus would have undoubtedly consumed the entire universe to appease his hunger. And so what if Starkiller brought down a Star Destroyer? Nihilus ripped the Ravager from Malacor V and kept it together and functional. Also, since it's not certain what happened to Nihilus's mask, it's possible he is still alive if the mask is intact.
Ya but Darth Sidious did a Force Storm that was so powerful it went from world to world to reach Luke Skywalker who was lightyears away.ICanBreakTheseCuffs said:
Darth Bane is my vote, because he brought patience into sith teaching. As well the rule of Two. Too bad about the failed apprentice...
I love Grevious' design. Most badass star wars character IMO, although I'm not too well versed, so perhaps I'm wrong.Rakkana said:
Reasons, he would of beaten the emperor if Anakin wasn't there, could Yoda? No. Could Vader? No. Could Luke? No. Could Starkiller? No.
I rest my case.
