The Nintendo experiment

[Matthew Jabour]

I'm reminded of the music recommendation paradox.

Basically, if a fan of one genre (say, an electronica freak) hears someone say "they don't see the appeal" of the genre ("Electonic music doesn't focus on melody, is repetitive and uses weird sounds. I don't get the appeal."), they seem to be filled with the urge to recommend the "best of the best" that the genre has to offer ("Dude, have you tried Aphex Twin? Try his Come to Daddy EP!").

In the attempt to show someone the best that the genre has to offer, you're only going to push them away, because the elements they're unsure about are more or less always the ones on full display.

In the OP here, he's expecting EVERYONE to have fun playing with other people who aren't very good. If that's how he likes to play, then cool. But using it as a selling point is just... alienating.

My point is, a lot of Nintendo's recent games are meant to be more family oriented, meant to be played in a group of people who may not have much game experience. All I meant to say was that if you played the games in this manner, you might see a side of it you didn't before.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm reminded of the music recommendation paradox.

Basically, if a fan of one genre (say, an electronica freak) hears someone say "they don't see the appeal" of the genre ("Electonic music doesn't focus on melody, is repetitive and uses weird sounds. I don't get the appeal."), they seem to be filled with the urge to recommend the "best of the best" that the genre has to offer ("Dude, have you tried Aphex Twin? Try his Come to Daddy EP!").

In the attempt to show someone the best that the genre has to offer, you're only going to push them away, because the elements they're unsure about are more or less always the ones on full display.

In the OP here, he's expecting EVERYONE to have fun playing with other people who aren't very good. If that's how he likes to play, then cool. But using it as a selling point is just... alienating.

My point is, a lot of Nintendo's recent games are meant to be more family oriented, meant to be played in a group of people who may not have much game experience. All I meant to say was that if you played the games in this manner, you might see a side of it you didn't before.

The thing is, we know that already.

And, as a "core gamer" site, we deride it for that very fact.

Saying "You should try it, because it works exactly in the way that made you ignore it in the first place" is counterproductive.

 

[newwiseman]

step one: buy wii
step two: buy actual controller for wii
step three: plug controller into wii-mote
step four: play games instead of waggling your wrist like some sort of trained chimp that masturbates to screen cues...
step five: throw away the wii, build a cheap gaming rig, get Steam/GOG/Green Man Games and stop putting up with console BS.

I honestly don't mind the wii that much, but trying to use the wiimote for anything but a waggle stick is horrible, the original NES had better ergonomics.

You clearly haven't played Skyward Sword. Best video game experience I've ever had, the whole experience.

I have, a waggle stick is a waggle stick. When I want to enjoy cutting things in specific directions I get out new tatami. Skyward Sword was a massive improvement over the wii version of Twilight Princess, frankly an unplayable game because of unresponsive or delayed response controls. With that out of the way, and flame shields at maximum, Skyward Sword wasn't really a good game. Only reason I played it is because of my love for the Zelda series, it was the reason I bought the wii in the first place. The big N has been disappointing me even more than Square for the last few years.

Best game I played for the wii is Monster Hunter, but that is because Monster Hunter is good and has nothing to do with the console, and is again best played without the waggle stick.

Metroid Prime Trilogy?

Meh, I'd argue about it but others beat me to it... Samus deserved better, like [a href="http://youtu.be/cL-mR79GErU"]http://youtu.be/cL-mR79GErU[/a] for instance

 

[Stavros Dimou]

I get the appeal of it,and indeed when it happens its fan,but the thing is it only works when you have other people with you. But when I can be with other people I tend to do other kinds of things. For me gaming is for when I'm not in the mood of going out,or nobody from my pals is available at the given time I'd like to.

And except from that,unfortunately the fact that Wii missed a lot of great titles makes it a complimentary console,not a 'main console' for somebody,IMO.

Yeah,Mario,Donkey Kong,Metroid etc are fun,but so do are Elder Scrolls,Wolfenstein,Duke Nukem,Battlefield,Far Cry,Fallout, Tomb Raider,etc...
:/

 

[Vivi22]

So the solution to getting me to like the Wii is to get me to play a Mario Game I don't enjoy with people who don't know how to play it, or play the worst Zelda game I've ever played (granted I haven't played Skyward Sword)?

Excuse me while I laugh in your face.

 

[nickyv917]

Why did Gothproxy get a warning for that comment? The worst thing he said was that Nintendo fans are nerds, and that he didn't like Nintendo consoles. I'm an absolutely Nintendo-phile, and I didn't see anything wrong with that.

 

[MetalDooley]

Why did Gothproxy get a warning for that comment? The worst thing he said was that Nintendo fans are nerds, and that he didn't like Nintendo consoles. I'm an absolutely Nintendo-phile, and I didn't see anything wrong with that.

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