The Old Republic "Hope" Cinematic

[Danpascooch]

when I saw the trailer, I thought it was the biggest BS since SWE1&2.

the game is meant to be set thousands of years before the films right?

well why are there soldiers dressing up like Clone troopers? why is there a "beta" version of the Droideka?

I am suppose to believe that the military dress like the Clone troopers for thousands of years? and that it took thousands of years just to make the Droideka more mobile,slimmer, have a shield generator and can fire at a slightly faster rate!?!?

I don't buy it.

It's more plausible to believe that the technology was the same thousands of years ago than it is to believe that technology got unbelievably WORSE 50 years in the future (from the new trilogy to the old trilogy)

 

[Danpascooch]

This blows.......... as the release for this game gets closer and closer I'm only going to get angrier and angrier because DAMMIT! I want KotOR 3.

This basically is Kotor 3, realize that and you'll feel better.

...then buy it.

Nope not happening, I don't have the lifestyle to support playing that type of game. I guess I'll just have to accept that the game I want will not come out for at least the next 3 years and move on.....DAMMIT.

What lifestyle? Just spend the time you'd normally spend playing a Kotor 3 playing this.

If you don't have any time to play a Kotor 3 in your lifestyle, than what are you complaining about?

There is a vast (at least for me) difference in time use between an RPG and a MMORPG. When I get a game, in this case an RPG, that I like I put most if not all of my free time in to completing it (first time through that is). Also I would think that the story structure between an MMO and an RPG would differ greatly.

I don't see why there is a vast difference in time use, yes, there is a vast difference in how much the AVERAGE person plays an MMO compared to an RPG, but I don't see why you think you need to adhere to that, or that it would water down the experience to play it using the same (or less) amount of time you would a Kotor 3.

The story structure will be different, but give Bioware a little trust, the entire point of this MMO is an attempt to bridge the gap, and if anyone can do it, they can.

Frankly I'm glad they are doing this instead of Kotor 3, because if this is successful, they will be constantly updating and adding to it through patches and expansions, meaning the Kotor universe will never die.

Why and I suddenly reminded of the common trait that people fear the unknown.....

Does this mean you'll give it a chance?

I'm going to have the same approach for it as I did when Batman Arkham Asylum was being released. By that I mean I'm going to treat it as guilty until proven otherwise.

That's good enough for me.

Speaking of Arkham Asylum, Game Informer pegged that as an amazing game when it was way back in development, and I didn't buy it, they did the same for the new Transformers game a few months ago, doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to buy it, but you can bet your ass I'm keeping a close eye on it. This isn't related to ToR at all, I'm just saying, keep your eye on the new Transformers game, it might be amazing.

 

[Redratson]

I am now inspired to check out this game and play the Republic.

 

[Danpascooch]

I watched this trailer about five times.

each time I thought to myself "Damn, if this was a movie, using this CGI rahter than the movie that shall not be named, I would not only watch this in a theater, but bought the DVD."


and sadly, though the game wont exactlty look like this, I still have lesser hopes for it after reading this article:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/feature/4320/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-E3-2010-Mixed-Feelings-From-E3.html


If Bioware gives us open PvP servers, or even just planets that are open PvP, that might get me re-intrested in the game.



also, if the bounty hunter class cant collect bounties on other players, then Im forgetting this game entirely.

Well of COURSE the game won't look like this, could you imagine what that would do? Everyone's computers would be reduced to smoking husks, the 3d modelers would all die of exhaustion, and the entire internet would crash and explode in a fiery hellstorm from which it would never recover.

Still, for an MMO, the in game graphics actually look great.

 

[Danpascooch]

What makes you think they will release a cinematic trailer? Usually the announcement trailer is the cinematic trailer.

Well, the fact they said they will and because every single product ever released by Blizzard has had one? And no an announcement trailer and the cinematic trailer aren't the same thing. Here's Wrath of the Lich King's announcement trailer as well as Burning Crusades.

Spoiler

As for Star Wars, I just preferred ye olden ways. Still love Kotor 1 and 2, as well as the old Jedi Knight games on the PC, but watching that trailer I still can't help but think 'what happened?'.

When in Empire Strikes Back the emperor shot lightning for the first time it blew my mind and I could help but think "Holy shit, the dark side can do THAT!". Now it seems like everyone and their dog can do that and more. It's no longer subtle, it's in your face techno-wizardry!

But again, that's less to do with this game as it does just the change with the setting in general. Ah well!

*facepalm* I've been playing WoW since Burning Crusade launched, how did I not know there were separate announcement trailers!?

Anyway, It's surprising how everyone is seeing this trailer and realizing "What happened to Star Wars!?" If anything, I would think those realization moments would be Star Wars episodes 1, 2 and 3, and The Force Unleashed. If anything, this is a step back from The Force Unleashed, it's a small step, but it's a step in the right direction.

 

[teutonicman]

This blows.......... as the release for this game gets closer and closer I'm only going to get angrier and angrier because DAMMIT! I want KotOR 3.

This basically is Kotor 3, realize that and you'll feel better.

...then buy it.

Nope not happening, I don't have the lifestyle to support playing that type of game. I guess I'll just have to accept that the game I want will not come out for at least the next 3 years and move on.....DAMMIT.

What lifestyle? Just spend the time you'd normally spend playing a Kotor 3 playing this.

If you don't have any time to play a Kotor 3 in your lifestyle, than what are you complaining about?

There is a vast (at least for me) difference in time use between an RPG and a MMORPG. When I get a game, in this case an RPG, that I like I put most if not all of my free time in to completing it (first time through that is). Also I would think that the story structure between an MMO and an RPG would differ greatly.

I don't see why there is a vast difference in time use, yes, there is a vast difference in how much the AVERAGE person plays an MMO compared to an RPG, but I don't see why you think you need to adhere to that, or that it would water down the experience to play it using the same (or less) amount of time you would a Kotor 3.

The story structure will be different, but give Bioware a little trust, the entire point of this MMO is an attempt to bridge the gap, and if anyone can do it, they can.

Frankly I'm glad they are doing this instead of Kotor 3, because if this is successful, they will be constantly updating and adding to it through patches and expansions, meaning the Kotor universe will never die.

Why and I suddenly reminded of the common trait that people fear the unknown.....

Does this mean you'll give it a chance?

I'm going to have the same approach for it as I did when Batman Arkham Asylum was being released. By that I mean I'm going to treat it as guilty until proven otherwise.

That's good enough for me.

Speaking of Arkham Asylum, Game Informer pegged that as an amazing game when it was way back in development, and I didn't buy it, they did the same for the new Transformers game a few months ago, doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to buy it, but you can bet your ass I'm keeping a close eye on it. This isn't related to ToR at all, I'm just saying, keep your eye on the new Transformers game, it might be amazing.

I am also keeping my eye on Transformers, the released videos look cool (obviously) and there is also the nostalgia factor. However I'm still keeping it in the same category as TOR. After being burned by the force unleashed, I learned my lesson about getting excited.

 

[hermes]

Yep... one-week rendered Blizzard trailers are nothing compared to that package of awesome.

Although I don't like how Jedis are growing exponentially stronger with every Star Wars game. Remember the Jedi Knight series? You spent half of the second one with only guns. A short time ago we had The Force Unleashed where the little guy blows a hall apart like it's nothing.
However, the Old Republic trailer made me wet my pants nevertheless.

It bothers me how they are growing stronger too, but I believe this trailer is a MAJOR step in the RIGHT direction compared to the bullshit the last major Star Wars game pulled:

You mean, better than to stop a lightsaber with your bare hands?

It also bothers me how technology and fashion in the Star Wars universe doesn't advance one inch over the course of millions of years. The game is supposed to take place thousands of years before the movies, yet weapons and uniforms of the troops look a lot like the clones uniforms... Check a video of bounty hunter's gameplay and you will see Han Solo pulling it out...

Darth Vader in the old trilogy could block blaster shots with his hand, the lightsaber is an object just like anything else, Jedi use the force on it to pull them toward themselves, so why wouldn't they be able to use the force to push one away?

Stopping a blade of energy is a HELL of a lot less overpowered than crashing a SHIP THE SIZE OF A CITY!

At least crashing the ship can be justified in the cannon (remember the "Size matters not."?). Blocking a blade made of energy that can cut through ship hulks, with her hands, doesn't seems less overpowered... Vader stopped blaster shots, but he also wear a full body armor (that couldn't stop a lightsaber, by the way)... And Jedis don't pull or push the lightsabers, only the handle.

It doesn't really matter. The trailer was very good, although it has the same issues of everything star wars related in the last years: force users are overpowered up to anime levels; and, no matter when and where it is set, everything looks oddly familiar...

 

[The Rookie Gamer]

Wow. This trailer was making me think of getting the game, and now the soundtrack has confirmed I need this game.

 

[michiehoward]

why oh fucking why is this a fucking shite MMO fuuuuuck

 

[Sworm]

Blocking a blade made of energy that can cut through ship hulks, with her hands, doesn't seems less overpowered... Vader stopped blaster shots, but he also wear a full body armor (that couldn't stop a lightsaber, by the way)... And Jedis don't pull or push the lightsabers, only the handle.

It doesn't really matter. The trailer was very good, although it has the same issues of everything star wars related in the last years: force users are overpowered up to anime levels; and, no matter when and where it is set, everything looks oddly familiar...

in the Knights of the old republic comic there's a special metal that is specifically designed to block energy weapons, including lightsabers. Perhaps that Jedi had some of that metal on her palm, specifically for that reason.

Also, Lightsabers are basically ultraheated arching plasma (or something) confined in that blade shape. If you can rip out a tree trunk while holding back a foe, repelling the arching plasma can't be too far off.

But I'll go with the metal explanation.

 

[Danpascooch]

Yep... one-week rendered Blizzard trailers are nothing compared to that package of awesome.

Although I don't like how Jedis are growing exponentially stronger with every Star Wars game. Remember the Jedi Knight series? You spent half of the second one with only guns. A short time ago we had The Force Unleashed where the little guy blows a hall apart like it's nothing.
However, the Old Republic trailer made me wet my pants nevertheless.

It bothers me how they are growing stronger too, but I believe this trailer is a MAJOR step in the RIGHT direction compared to the bullshit the last major Star Wars game pulled:

You mean, better than to stop a lightsaber with your bare hands?

It also bothers me how technology and fashion in the Star Wars universe doesn't advance one inch over the course of millions of years. The game is supposed to take place thousands of years before the movies, yet weapons and uniforms of the troops look a lot like the clones uniforms... Check a video of bounty hunter's gameplay and you will see Han Solo pulling it out...

Darth Vader in the old trilogy could block blaster shots with his hand, the lightsaber is an object just like anything else, Jedi use the force on it to pull them toward themselves, so why wouldn't they be able to use the force to push one away?

Stopping a blade of energy is a HELL of a lot less overpowered than crashing a SHIP THE SIZE OF A CITY!

At least crashing the ship can be justified in the cannon (remember the "Size matters not."?). Blocking a blade made of energy that can cut through ship hulks, with her hands, doesn't seems less overpowered... Vader stopped blaster shots, but he also wear a full body armor (that couldn't stop a lightsaber, by the way)... And Jedis don't pull or push the lightsabers, only the handle.

It doesn't really matter. The trailer was very good, although it has the same issues of everything star wars related in the last years: force users are overpowered up to anime levels; and, no matter when and where it is set, everything looks oddly familiar...

"Size matters not" is something Yoda said in order to give Luke the confidence he needed to use the force to its full extent, he meant that Luke should not think that what he's trying to do is impossible because of its size, it doesn't mean that size literally has no bearing.

You've seen Jedi use the force to move their lightsabers all the time, if "size matters not" was a literal truth and not something meant to encourage Luke, it would mean that anyone who could force pull their lightsaber could also send planets hurtling into the nearest sun with the same amount of energy, since the fact that the planet is larger than their lightsaber doesn't matter, it would mean that jedi could destroy entire planets with their bare hands effortlessly.

It's strange that by your arguments repelling a lightsaber with the force is impossible and overpowered, but throwing planets into the sun is not.

 

[Danpascooch]

Yep... one-week rendered Blizzard trailers are nothing compared to that package of awesome.

Although I don't like how Jedis are growing exponentially stronger with every Star Wars game. Remember the Jedi Knight series? You spent half of the second one with only guns. A short time ago we had The Force Unleashed where the little guy blows a hall apart like it's nothing.
However, the Old Republic trailer made me wet my pants nevertheless.

It bothers me how they are growing stronger too, but I believe this trailer is a MAJOR step in the RIGHT direction compared to the bullshit the last major Star Wars game pulled:

You mean, better than to stop a lightsaber with your bare hands?

It also bothers me how technology and fashion in the Star Wars universe doesn't advance one inch over the course of millions of years. The game is supposed to take place thousands of years before the movies, yet weapons and uniforms of the troops look a lot like the clones uniforms... Check a video of bounty hunter's gameplay and you will see Han Solo pulling it out...

Darth Vader in the old trilogy could block blaster shots with his hand, the lightsaber is an object just like anything else, Jedi use the force on it to pull them toward themselves, so why wouldn't they be able to use the force to push one away?

Stopping a blade of energy is a HELL of a lot less overpowered than crashing a SHIP THE SIZE OF A CITY!

At least crashing the ship can be justified in the cannon (remember the "Size matters not."?). Blocking a blade made of energy that can cut through ship hulks, with her hands, doesn't seems less overpowered... Vader stopped blaster shots, but he also wear a full body armor (that couldn't stop a lightsaber, by the way)... And Jedis don't pull or push the lightsabers, only the handle.

It doesn't really matter. The trailer was very good, although it has the same issues of everything star wars related in the last years: force users are overpowered up to anime levels; and, no matter when and where it is set, everything looks oddly familiar...

Well, couldn't she have been pushing the handle away? Thus keeping the lightsaber from cutting more than a few millimeters into her palm?

Lightsabers use the same basic laser technology as blasters, it's just that they can cut through things because instead of only existing for an instant after hitting something, they remain coherent and constantly apply heat in the form of a blade, it's not inconceivable that the force could be used to repel the contained plasma, after all, if the technology in the handle of a lightsaber is powerful enough to shape the plasma into a beam, why is it inconcievable that the force could generate as much power in using that same magnetic shaping to repel the plasma?

The force it would take to down a ship the size of a city is massive, if Jedi could do that, they would have no problem picking up and throwing 20 story tall buildings at eachother, it's outrageous.

 

[Manbro]

Another problem is the scene in which the trooper wrestles the sith lord, then arms a grenade between the two. I fully expected the resulting explosion to incinerate both combatants, but lo and behold, both stand up, dust themselves off, obviously uninjured. Even more amazing, the trooper who just detonated a futuristic explosive device in his tightly clenched right fist still possesses said limb!

Maybe it's not a high explosive grenade and more of a concussion or stun grenade? I don't know, it would make more sense for them to survive that relatively unscathed. Other than that I guess it would have to be something the Jedi or Sith did.

 

[Manbro]

Still an awesome trailer though! So pumped for this game!

 

[Cooperblack]

Not to rain on anybody's parade but Bioware didn't make that trailer, Blur did.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Holy. Fuck.
Most epic thin I've ever witnessed on my computer screen.
Too bad that the game simply cannot be this awesome
And damn, when those troopers tackled the incoming sith... I nearly cried from joy xD

 

[Ruzzian Roulette]

In response to the whole "WHY HIS HAND NO BLOW UP?!" thing, seeing as the soldiers are fighting mostly droids, I'm gonna guess that the grenade was really an Ion Grenade, which are specifically for destroying drioids. I'd imagine they would cause at least a little bit of damage to organics, being a grenade in the first place, but not as much as it would a droid.

OT: Fuck Bounty Hunter, I'm rolling Commando now, I wanna tackle Sith!

 

[kimba_lion]

why oh why cant it be on ps3 aswell...

its not my fault i cant afford a top of the line pc!!!

 

[Random Argument Man]

I'm pretty sure that the story will be great, but I can't say the same thing about the gameplay. There's 4 classes each side and the Republic got one tank, two dps and one healer.

I'm wondering if there's more variety than that.