The Old Republic Population Shrinking

Woodsey

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Meh, I like the game and I will continue to play it. To hell with the haters.
You don't need to quote the entire news article.
 

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animehermit said:
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keep hyping, reality is gonna hit faster for GW2 than any other MMO to ever come out.
It's free to play, mate. That is the best part about it. You buy it, then you never have to spend another penny on it. I'd prefer a mediocre ftp game over a good p2p game any day.
 

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animehermit said:
No it isn't. You still have the 60$ barrier to entry.
It's essentially free to play.

Hell, the only reason I don't play TOR is because of the ridiculousness of a $60 price tag AND a sub fee. If they went free to play and kept the $60 price tag, I would gladly play the game.
 

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A lot of people seem to think 1.3 million means 'dying'. If they continue to decay subs at this rate they'll die, but 1.3 million is still very strong for an MMO.

Hopefully they'll merge servers soon. I suspect the bleed won't stop until they do.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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It will be free-to-play within the year, I garentee it.

You just can't do subscription base MMO's anymore. People don't want to spend 90 dollars a year to play a single game when their are so many cheaper alternatives, ones that actually have more active combat than "click hotkey for auto attack on selected enemy." WoW won't be killed by a single MMO coming to meet the challenge in an epic clash of MMOs, it will die as a whimper, with the player base slowly shrinking to nothing.
 

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kortin said:
animehermit said:
No it isn't. You still have the 60$ barrier to entry.
It's essentially free to play.

Hell, the only reason I don't play TOR is because of the ridiculousness of a $60 price tag AND a sub fee. If they went free to play and kept the $60 price tag, I would gladly play the game.
How about, "non-MMO priced MMO," since every other game that isn't a MMO is that price or less, and nobody calls that free to play.
 

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the game is basically like playing a crappier version of kotor, but with co-op. witch is good.
but you'll play once then you'll move on... like kotor.

as a mmorpg its lame. there's really no need for the massive multiplayer aspect. actually all it does is give away who your companions will be. so the only thing having millions of other people running around adds is story spoiler's and immersion breaks.

I know WoW has established what a mmorpg is, but honestly I think ultama-online way back in the day was the only mmorpg to do anything with having millions of people on a game.

the level of freedom and reliance on people to populate the world led to a lot of emergent fun.

now all mmorpgs seem to try and focus on the "oooo.. piece of candy" addiction elements. witch just don't seem to work on me.
 

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The game isn't a failure, as much as some would like to claim it is.
It's not a smashing success either, which it needed to be if it were to make any profits on its gargantuan development costs.
 

Lunar Templar

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animehermit said:
Lunar Templar said:
A lot of what you're saying is based on false assumptions.

First, let me point out that when you shoot someone with a rocket, if they are a "normal" class enemy they will fall down and be stunned momentarily.
not really 'false' so much as not remembering. but i spent most my time as a Sith Warrior so that might have something to do with it to.

(and I'll take my Brutes over my Sith Warrior any day)

Second, the combat from what I've experienced is very kinetic in it's abilities, they feel right and it really feels like my attacks are connecting and doing damage to my enemies. I've played CoH and the combat is REALLY floaty, it's like none of your attacks are connecting, and the movement doesn't help either, you have less control over your character and I feel that it's less fun that way.
*shrugs* i like how CoH dose it more. just feels better to me

Third, the story. I really don't see your complaints at all. In the first 10 levels of TOR, I fought to control an uprising from a dangerous native population. Eventually outing a fallen jedi and reforming him to the light side of the force. At the same time I restored peace between the Jedi order and a group of Twi'leks who settled on Tython. By level 20 I had traveled to Coruscant and had to hunt down plans for a Republic siege weapon, only to discover a sinister plot by the sith. By level 32 I had to fight to save Tython as it was going to be destroyed by the same weapons I was trying to keep the Empire from obtaining.
;) oh ... your republic ... your argument is now invalid /joke

never could get into the republic stuff, wasn't really that interesting to me, though, i can't seem to make my self care enough to finish act 1 on my rerolled warrior, let alone start act 2 on the server i left.
where as i have >.> *logs into CoH real quick to confirm* 25 characters on one server, with an average lvl of 20. sorta speaks greater volumes that I'm willing to repeat a lot of content that many times in one game, but i can't even force my self to care about content for characters i've never played, or only done once before.

course that only compared to ONE of the MMO's i play.
though compared to the other two, ToR wins on story, shallow as it is, but loses HORRIBLY [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX83IoehAGE] on combat [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4SRXsiQCB4]

but over all, i've figured out, ToR is not for me, my prior post was based on my time with it and what i ended up leaving it with. which, was not a favorable opinion of it, and the legacy system is no inspiration to return after having a look at it.
 

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animehermit said:
kortin said:
animehermit said:
No it isn't. You still have the 60$ barrier to entry.
It's essentially free to play.

Hell, the only reason I don't play TOR is because of the ridiculousness of a $60 price tag AND a sub fee. If they went free to play and kept the $60 price tag, I would play the game.
It's not free to play, calling it that is entirely misleading. Free to play implies that you can play the game with no cost to yourself. This is not the case.
Indeed. It's like calling Portal 2 'Free to play'. I highly doubt anyone would ever claim that's the case.

Not G. Ivingname said:
How about, "non-MMO priced MMO," since every other game that isn't a MMO is that price or less, and nobody calls that free to play.
How about just 'subscription-based MMO' like all the rest? Amazon.co.uk has TOR new for £22, which is just about what I paid for WoW and each expansion pack (18-25 area). Initial buying price differs from place to place.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Woodsey said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Meh, I like the game and I will continue to play it. To hell with the haters.
You don't need to quote the entire news article.
It has become a habit, regardless I don't see why it needs to be pointed out.
Because chronic masturbation has left me with wanker's claw, and having to scroll down the page any more than necessary is a pain.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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Amnestic said:
Not G. Ivingname said:
How about, "non-MMO priced MMO," since every other game that isn't a MMO is that price or less, and nobody calls that free to play.
How about just 'subscription-based MMO' like all the rest? Amazon.co.uk has TOR new for £22, which is just about what I paid for WoW and each expansion pack (18-25 area). Initial buying price differs from place to place.
TOR? I thought the other person was talking about the pricing of Guild Wars 2.

Edit: Yes, I looked how that line of converstation was about GW2, not TOR, which has a $60 price tag and no subscription fees.
 

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TOR was probably the last great beast of that line.
I'd wait till' we see how The Secret World turns out before you jump to THAT conclusion...
I've heard from multiple sources that it was terrible.

I realize how negative and blunt that sounded, so here's a picture of a cat doing people things.
 

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It was funny to me when half a dozen of my wow playing friends left to play TOR. I did not partly because of how invested I was in WoW and because my computer simply couldn't run it. it wasn't a loss to me, I love wow.

Within a month, every last one of them was back to playing WoW. and I had a month's worth of better gear then them :p