The Old Republic Will Be the Last Subscription MMO

Space Jawa

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octafish said:
The West needs to get rid of the monthly subscription rip off and instead switch focus to the time based subscription that is still strong in the East. Would you rather pay to play over a calendar month where you might have internet outages, work, school family, and other distractions or would you rather pay for the time you spend in the game?
That actually sounds like a pretty good idea. Now that I think about it, I'm surprised this idea hasn't popped up Stateside already.
 

Nurb

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I LIKE monthly fees. It puts everyone on equal ground and they don't force time-syncs and grindfests to "encourage" people to engage in microtransactions.

I don't play F2P games for that reason. When I try out an F2P, I might like it, but then get frustrated with the amount of grinding I have to do when they expect me to buy something and then I go on to something else
 

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I can't see this happening until a F2P MMO comes out with the same caliber as WoW, which won't happen. There's a reason that WoW has a subscription, the customer service. Seriously, getting your account hacked and your items sold can be solved in under a day. No F2P MMO will ever have the money to pull that. That Rusty Hearts game just came out and is in maintenance almost every day. That and it also has server issues where the server will go down for periods of time. Smedley's got no idea.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
I don't think SWTOR will even be a subscription based MMO for long. Maybe first 2 years at most.
I don't know about that. F2P games just do not rake in the money. Microtransactions can stack up, and then it turns into whoever spent the most money is the best player. Plus you can see your fees at work with WoW. Can't say the same for a lot of F2Ps with the exception of Guild Wars.
 

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"No really, the introduction of missiles onto jet aircraft will totally make dogfighting obsolete!"

They always say things like this, but how often does it ACTUALLY work out that way? Honestly, microtransactions aren't likely to dominate the market because there are still people out there that want to pay full price for quality material.
 

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The industry could have gone two ways, the way they did, which I think was a mistake, but that's just my humble opinion, and giving us the client for free. I've said it before, several times. If I didn't have to pay $40, etc. for the client I would have tried alot more MMOs than I have after CoH, WoW hit. Honestly, after that there were too many to keep up with. But if I had been able to download a client, pay my $15 for a month worth of the game, I would have at least tried out several more than I did. In the long run, I think, again IMHO, F2P is going to hurt us. If anything, Battlefield Heroes showed us how bad F2P can be and I actually enjoyed that game til EA lost their minds.

But I'm old and have a long memory. Smeds talking like he's an authority on anything besides how to ruin a franchise, to me, is laughable.
 

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Once I heard that SWTOR is going to be subscription based, that game went right off the list of games I plan on buying. Really, if you are going to charge me 15 a month, don't make me buy the game in the first place. I refuse to buy a game that is going to also charge me 15 a month.
 

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With reputation being as it is, I am finding myself not believing anything quoted around here as anything to hold a candle to. I realize everyone has their say, but it is becoming too obvious that too many at the less intellectual end have been given more page time here than anyone else. I wouldn't place any bets or make any choices based on what this guy says.
Subscriptions are starting to become a thing of the past. That was obvious a year ago. Next he will tell us there will be a drought in Texas.
 

zombiesinc

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The problem with "free-to-play" MMOs these days is that they're only partly free-to-play. If it's not two thirds of the character types unavailable until you spend $20, it's certain parts of the game being locked off, or certain levels being unattainable. Don't get me wrong, the sooner MMOs start progressing toward free-to-play the better, but as it stands they're still not worth it for the average gamer. And if not the average or casual gamer, it's the gamer that doesn't want to commit to a single game.
 

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generousX said:
This guy is wrong. TERA online is coming out next year, after SWTOR, and is going to be p2p.

"Like other MMORPG titles, TERA will use a monthly subscription model with a retail box. Cost, fee structure, and payment methods are not yet finalized."

http://www.tera-online.com/content/faq

There will probably be others too.
The Old Republic doesn't even have a release date, yet. And It's probably not going to be out until at least late 2013.
 

LorienvArden

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They confirmed time and time again that TOR WILL be subscription based. You can try your jedi mind tricks as often as you like, that won't change any time soon.

Yes, subscriptions will die out eventually, but not quite yet. Wh40k online is still being worked on, and unless the monkeys at Games Workshop have a sudden flash of insight they will try a subscription modell for that attrocity.(No worries, we won't see it soon, nor will we see it for a long time - this baby is as bound for a gigantic flaceplant)

I'll put my money down with the "pay once, play forever" payment plan with microtransaction ala Guild Wars.
- You have a tangible experience every time you decide to spend money on the game - either some new skins, new dungeons or a pet.
What do you get everytime you pay your subscription ? For me, I get an awkward feeling everytime I work late, travel or otherwise can't play that game.

- I don't want to give most companies out there ANY of my financial data. We've seen how risky that can be. I also don't own a credit card - which disqualifies quite a lot of online games out there.
 

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Just don't deteriorate into 'Pay to Win' instead of 'Free to Play.'