The Oscars Are Going to Suck
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"The lone irritating downside to an increasingly diverse culture of multiple voices and viewpoints is that we run the risk of resurgent tribalism and factionalization; people eschewing the idea of shared "monocultural" events for the comforts and clan and kin - an insularity that breeds anti-intellectualism and stifles vision."
That second-to-last paragraph is rather insightful - even when considering recent cultural changes that have nothing to do with movie-making/watching. It puts into words something that's been nagging at the back of my mind ever since the word "television" stopped being synonymous with three channels (perhaps twenty-five years ago or so?). The internet, for all its myriad wonders, has simply exacerbated the problem.
That second-to-last paragraph is rather insightful - even when considering recent cultural changes that have nothing to do with movie-making/watching. It puts into words something that's been nagging at the back of my mind ever since the word "television" stopped being synonymous with three channels (perhaps twenty-five years ago or so?). The internet, for all its myriad wonders, has simply exacerbated the problem.
I do not know if I would call the Artist different instead of Nostalgic to the Oscar voters. Which I guess is half the point for Bob in that they are outdated. Gotta say though, I agree with you about Drive, I loved that movie.MacNille said:
I'm used to be one of those people who get exited to watch a Hollywood movie because well it's an American movie and as Filipino(yes, we are still stereotyped as America's most faithful slave) it's kinda of a big deal if a Hollywood movie is shot here. Want an example? How about The Bourne Legacy minus Matt Damon and Starring Jeremy Renner which is shot mostly here in the Philippines and I am pretty sure it will be another bland, cliched, generic, action movie. Will it be a blockbuster like its predecessors is anyone's guess at this point.
But now after joining the Escapist and watching some Escape to the Movies and other movie reviews from other sites, I finally realized(most of you already know this) that most of them are crap. And I used to think that being nominated to the Oscars is big thing and I think that the movies there are the best ever made, what a naive and idiotic boy I have been.
Nowadays it seems that whenever I see a DVD or Blu-Ray copy of a movie with the Best Picture of (insert year here) I still watch it to see what made it won that award and most of of the time it's set on WWII or older. So yeah the Oscars are for me no longer relevant on how judging how good a movie is.
Like my late grandmother said who just died last Sunday and still in being in the wake as of this writing (may she rest in peace). "Award doesn't matter, It's what you do that counts" or something like that. And it is.
But now after joining the Escapist and watching some Escape to the Movies and other movie reviews from other sites, I finally realized(most of you already know this) that most of them are crap. And I used to think that being nominated to the Oscars is big thing and I think that the movies there are the best ever made, what a naive and idiotic boy I have been.
Nowadays it seems that whenever I see a DVD or Blu-Ray copy of a movie with the Best Picture of (insert year here) I still watch it to see what made it won that award and most of of the time it's set on WWII or older. So yeah the Oscars are for me no longer relevant on how judging how good a movie is.
Like my late grandmother said who just died last Sunday and still in being in the wake as of this writing (may she rest in peace). "Award doesn't matter, It's what you do that counts" or something like that. And it is.
Why are we so worried? If we ever lose the Oscars ceremony, at least we have the intellectual and culturally relevant likes of the MTV movie awards.........right? On a related note, I am all about making a statement but I am reminded of a certain character actor having an "altercation" with another refined celebrity of our times. It may have been a possibly wise decision someone was banned from the ceremony. Though, I honestly don't see why they said no to Muppets; maybe since they have Billy Crystal they are afraid of over doing the comedy?
Goodfellas.shiajun said:
The thing is the Oscars can still retain most of their relevance as long as there's no real rival awards, until somebody comes up with a viable alternative then winning an oscar is still the best thing a movie can do, even if the awards themselves are frequently wrong especially in retrospect it's still the biggest and there's not much to indicate that this will ever change, no matter how many times cross like Crash wins or how dull the actual ceremony gets.
The annoying thing is, although I agree with almost all of what Bob says, he always manages to make one sideways comment which I find completely ridiculous, even though it's said in the same "well of course I'm right" tone as the rest of the article - in this case, the writing off of Slumdog Millinaire as "immediately forgotten". I think you'd be hard pressed to find a significant number of people who genuinely forgot about it completely.
This is why I think the Kermode Awards are the best awards. For those who don't know, the rule of the Kermodes is that you cannot win a Kermode for a category in which you have been nominated for an Oscar. Here are some of the films which won Kermodes over the past few years:
Pan's Labyrinth
Moon
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Let The Right One In
Senna
We Need To Talk About Kevin
A Scanner Darkly
Son of Rambow
Bit different to Oscar fare isn't it.
Also, of all the sources to use for a news article, why the hell was an article from the Daily Mail included. I mean, every other story from them is either racist or saying that say blinking will give you cancer. No-one should mention the Daily Mail at all if they want to be taken seriously unless it's in mocking it.
Pan's Labyrinth
Moon
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Let The Right One In
Senna
We Need To Talk About Kevin
A Scanner Darkly
Son of Rambow
Bit different to Oscar fare isn't it.
Also, of all the sources to use for a news article, why the hell was an article from the Daily Mail included. I mean, every other story from them is either racist or saying that say blinking will give you cancer. No-one should mention the Daily Mail at all if they want to be taken seriously unless it's in mocking it.
I agree with your first point. I disagree with the second.DVS BSTrD said:
Shakespeare with Love was a good movie, and deserved the victory in a year of uninspiring movie releases. Are you suggesting Saving Private Ryan should have won instead? That film attempted half an hour of plotless, shockless, gore factor, and still somehow scooped a nomination. Few movies force me to turn them off, but I can honestly say that was one of the least interesting films I've watched half of.