The Other PS3 Hacker Is (Probably) Headed to Jail

[twm1709]

You know Sony, You're hardly in a position to piss off hackers any further. Wanna bet what another "welcome back" program would cost you?

 

[Quiotu]

Breaking anti-piracy measures is supporting piracy you idiots.

Except when the anti piracy measures do things other than stop piracy. Also, since when is supporting piracy illegal? Piracy itself is illegal, but supporting it? If I give my friend a blank DVD that he's going to put a pirated movie on is that illegal? You keep on making gun analogies in your post so how about a different weapon now, knives. Lets say the ability to cut any flesh is removed from a popular brand of kitchen knives, would you be supporting murder if you made it so my high tech knife can now cut steak? no, ofcourse not. There are other uses for cutting flesh.

Also

it's only when you disable the protection that prevents you from running pirated content,

There is definitely a problem with that being illegal. Note that I bought a PS3, I didn't rent it. If I alter it/allow anyone else to alter their PS3s (that I say yet again they didn't rent) in anyway that isn't directly breaking a copyright law (aka: using pirated software) or something retarded like giving it a gun functionality Sony still shouldn't be able to do shit to me and any case they try to bring up should be laughed out of court.

When cracking the PS3 causes every other PS3 on the network to be compromised, that's not just you 'doing what you want with your hardware', that's allowing every douchebag hacker to do exactly what you just did, except with bad intentions.

I understand that there's geeks out there that want to crack any hardware just for the sake of cracking it and doing what you want, but in this case cracking it meant opening the PSN wide open. The root key gave people unstoppable power on the network if they knew what they were doing... stealing games, hacking games, banning or unbanning PSN accounts at will... you don't think that's a BAD side effect of 'doing what you want with your hardware'?

Graf is guilty by association... he was part of it. GeoHot got the hint and removed everything... Graf kept going, even after multiple warnings and multiple hardware seizures. Graf clearly just WANTS to go to jail... I can't feel bad about someone that stupid.

 

[mike1921]

Breaking anti-piracy measures is supporting piracy you idiots.

Except when the anti piracy measures do things other than stop piracy. Also, since when is supporting piracy illegal? Piracy itself is illegal, but supporting it? If I give my friend a blank DVD that he's going to put a pirated movie on is that illegal? You keep on making gun analogies in your post so how about a different weapon now, knives. Lets say the ability to cut any flesh is removed from a popular brand of kitchen knives, would you be supporting murder if you made it so my high tech knife can now cut steak? no, ofcourse not. There are other uses for cutting flesh.

Also

it's only when you disable the protection that prevents you from running pirated content,

There is definitely a problem with that being illegal. Note that I bought a PS3, I didn't rent it. If I alter it/allow anyone else to alter their PS3s (that I say yet again they didn't rent) in anyway that isn't directly breaking a copyright law (aka: using pirated software) or something retarded like giving it a gun functionality Sony still shouldn't be able to do shit to me and any case they try to bring up should be laughed out of court.

When cracking the PS3 causes every other PS3 on the network to be compromised, that's not just you 'doing what you want with your hardware', that's allowing every douchebag hacker to do exactly what you just did, except with bad intentions.

That's "Sony having shitty security" combined with "doing what you want with your system"

I understand that there's geeks out there that want to crack any hardware just for the sake of cracking it and doing what you want, but in this case cracking it meant opening the PSN wide open. The root key gave people unstoppable power on the network if they knew what they were doing... stealing games, hacking games, banning or unbanning PSN accounts at will... you don't think that's a BAD side effect of 'doing what you want with your hardware'?

I think that's a bad side effect of buying the PS3, knowing that you could get that kind of power so easily

Graf is guilty by association... he was part of it. GeoHot got the hint and removed everything... Graf kept going, even after multiple warnings and multiple hardware seizures. Graf clearly just WANTS to go to jail... I can't feel bad about someone that stupid.

He's not guilty of anything except being unlucky enough to deal with such shitty security that you could possibly have "unstoppable power on the network" by modding your console. Also, he doesn't want to go to jail, he truly believes in what he's doing. I truly wish that sony would get out of the gaming industry at this point, I have no tolerance for a company that has shitty security and blames it on someone who was attempting to make it so people can regain functionality of their machines.

 

[Brandon237]

I don't think he is facing criminal charges for it? Is he? I mean, I thought all that stuff was civil, meaning his credit and paychecks will forever be docked an amount of money a judge decides is fair. But if you are suing someone for money, if they can't pay, they don't go to jail.

That's some bullshit. I hope he can raise enough money. He doesn't deserve to go to jail for modifying a device he bought.

Good to hear? I guess? I can't wait till they arrest lulzsec or whatever they are called

No it's not. The guy didn't hack the network, he hacked his system to restore OtherOS. That's what fail0verflow is known for.

I couldn't agree more. I'm not for hackers and stealing, but I am for people being able to utilize a device they own as they see fit. I think it's funny how the slobbering uneducated masses always cry for blood in these situations, when if they got what they wanted, the masses position is no better than if it never happened.

I agree with you here, going to jail for hacking his console 0.0 (which he paid for and then had stuff taken off of) And this is corporate, not violent or aggressive, how is he going to jail for that?

I can never fathom how hacking gets the same jail-time and more in certain cases than manslaughter, it really does prove beyond doubt that corporations hold WAY too much power, governments I can handle, but if ever I had reason to flood the world with pure anarchism, it would be company greed and abuse of power.

Who bets this is going to get them hacked again in no time flat?

Lol, I can just see his friends reading the articles and hearing about the arrest while they are at a meeting planning how to make Sony pay And yes, They are asking for it by jailing a dude who who restored a feature he paid for...

I can't remember who said it, but they were on this forum and said "you do not mess with the kinds of people who install Linux on their Playstations." or something... If you who made that, read that, very good comment, sorry I butchered it.

 

[Brandon237]

I don't think he is facing criminal charges for it? Is he? I mean, I thought all that stuff was civil, meaning his credit and paychecks will forever be docked an amount of money a judge decides is fair. But if you are suing someone for money, if they can't pay, they don't go to jail.

That's some bullshit. I hope he can raise enough money. He doesn't deserve to go to jail for modifying a device he bought.

Good to hear? I guess? I can't wait till they arrest lulzsec or whatever they are called

No it's not. The guy didn't hack the network, he hacked his system to restore OtherOS. That's what fail0verflow is known for.

I couldn't agree more. I'm not for hackers and stealing, but I am for people being able to utilize a device they own as they see fit. I think it's funny how the slobbering uneducated masses always cry for blood in these situations, when if they got what they wanted, the masses position is no better than if it never happened.

I agree with you here, going to jail for hacking his console 0.0 (which he paid for and then had stuff taken off of) And this is corporate, not violent or aggressive, how is he going to jail for that?

I can never fathom how hacking gets the same jail-time and more in certain cases than manslaughter, it really does prove beyond doubt that corporations hold WAY too much power, governments I can handle, but if ever I had reason to flood the world with pure anarchism, it would be company greed and abuse of power.

Who bets this is going to get them hacked again in no time flat?

Lol, I can just see his friends reading the articles and hearing about the arrest while they are at a meeting planning how to make Sony pay And yes, They are asking for it by jailing a dude who who restored a feature he paid for...

I can't remember who said it, but they were on this forum and said "you do not mess with the kinds of people who install Linux on their Playstations." or something... If you who made that, read that, very good comment, sorry I butchered it.

I believe it was the extra credits crew who said that line, and I thinky ou pretty much got the quote 100%-90% correct so no worries.

Extra credits, that's the one! Thanks, and phew, still, very good EC team