The Police are Ignoring me!

[RustlessPotato]

The Snip

Poor Jewrean, it looks every one is bashing at you . From the way I see it and the info you have given I think it's reasonable the police should at least contact you. Even if you had a bit of road rage, that doesn't justify their physical assault. You just yelled, they strangled you. Sure, you didn't die and I suppose weren't that injured, but how much do you have to be injured before the police do something ? But the others have a point, when you see 3 dicks and you're sure they're dicks, you shouldn' provoke the dicks. My dad always says you shouldn't poke a mad elephant.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

My logic is I don't pull my car over to yell at people and not expect to get my ass kicked. I really don't understand how someone could choose to do that and then suddenly be shocked and angry when they get assaulted.

It's like letting your pet python play with your kitten and then being shocked and hurt that the python killed and ate the cat. Like what the fuck do you expect to happen? It's a snake.

Yes, you really do not understand, justice. Although you think your way is logical, you actually just have a very different personality. There is no fact in either side of our arguements. That being said: every human has the right to speak / yell / be angry at others without having to fear violence as retribution. To simply expect it? Well then, I pity the loss of your faith in humanity.

As for your cute kitten / python example, yes that's a nice exaggeration...

EDIT: and for the final time... this post isn't about the crime... it's about being ignored by the police... stop derailing. Regardless of who is at fault, the people who committed the crime are indeed criminals and crossed an OBVIOUS line (obvious to any dimwit on Earth).

Can I live in your world? Ya know the world that goes:

Guy: YOU JUST CUT ME OFF AND ALMOST KILLED ME YOU JERK!
Guy2: Oh... heavens me sir, I do believe your right and your pulling over and dressing me down in public amongst my peers have shown me the errors of my ways. I do ever so apologize!

Yeah people should be threatened with violence, but the fact is they are. Also the Halocaust happened. Bad shit happens to people all the time that shouldn't. To knowingly choose to do something foolish like engage in another assholes road rage and then get shocked when it escalates into violence.... I'm sorry, I'm just flabbergasted. Even more so then the fact that my dumbfoundment over your actions apparently means I don't call the police when I see a child being raped or a man being killed.

Like yeah dude, youre being ignored by the police. I get it. Go on the news, you shouldn't of been choked.... But I can't believe you set out on the course of action you did that day and honestly expected things to go differently. If you made a poor decision, just cop to say you made a poor choice, no shame in it.

Also this isn't thread derailment. If you had to go to court in a civil suit against these individuals the judge (at lest by American standards) would give you shit for provoking and opening yourself up to it. Like... fucking aye, I get freedom of expression but freedom of expression doesn't mean I give the guy cutting me off the finger and then being shocked when he tries to run me off the road. Fucking nutjobs in this world, dude, you gotta account for that if you want to avoid getting attacked.

 

[Meatspinner]

It's thread like these that make me think that there is something seriously wrong with with this community.

Maybe it's just like minded people, Bob attracts.

OP, I'd just stop. Most people here would rather sit on the sideline and point out other peoples problems, just to feel better about themselves.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I love how everyone's blaming the OP. What's wrong with you people?

Oh and to the guy who thinks carrying a gun will help. What, are you nuts?

not blaming, I'm honestly shocked thought engaging with these assholes would lead to anything OTHER then physical violence.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

It's thread like these that make me think that there is something seriously wrong with with this community.

Maybe it's just like minded people, Bob attracts.

OP, I'd just stop. Most people here would rather sit on the sideline and point out other peoples problems, just to feel better about themselves.

Dude it be one thing if he was like "Hey man, I made a poor choice but they still shouldn't of assaulted me."

Instead homeboys going on with some righteous fury that some how we should be able to live in this magical world where you can cuss someone out and somehow be shocked when the situation turns violent.

 

[Something Amyss]

So... if someone came up to you and punched you square in the face... you would say nothing?

How does that have anything to do with you actively instigating something? And how does it make it comparable to bullies? Why are you so quick to change the subject away from your own accountability.

I'm also upset that a lot of you are talking down to me as if I'm a child or stupid for my actions when they were entirely reasonable and happen all the time.

That you called it "road rage" yourself and still defend it as reasonable probably doesn't help your case.

- MOST people on forums do not offer 'constructive' advice.

You brought it on yourself.

Hell, the "punch in the face" thing you just said to me is a solid example of exactly WHY people might treat you like a child.

- Unless there is a threat to kill you or harm actually made, cops do not care.

Since you're the one who pulled over, the cops in the US would deem this a mutually agreed upon fray and not investigate. If you had really been a hapless victim, they would have investigated.

Stop acting like an innocent victim who nobody will listen to and accpet that you played your own part in this.

Okay... let's see how you like it when someone almost runs you off the road and into oncoming traffic, and then strangles you.

Most adults wouldn't get strangled, because they wouldn't stop to chew someone out after doing something reckless themselves. See, this is the problem. We might not like being dicked aorund in traffic, but the responsible thing is not to pick a fight in the first place.

 

[Krion_Vark]

2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.

No, he's really not. He's advising that the scenario you ended up in was your own design and ill-advised.

So... if someone came up to you and punched you square in the face... you would say nothing?

If I yelled what the fuck is wrong with you or something to get his attention to me then yes I would say nothing. Or I would punch him back.


Like someone had said on the first page they probably already ran the number through the database (which can be done pretty quickly) and it came up stolen or the borrowed it from someone and they couldn't prove they actually had the car and no your picture technically doesn't prove who it was.

*EDIT* They probably should have called at some point but to them this case is closed and theres no reason to reopen it seeing as how there is no new evidence being brought to the table.

 

[nexus]

Reminds me of a story:

Guy calls 911, tells the operator a man is trespassing on his property and attempting to break into his backyard shed.

Operator tells him to stay calm, but there is no one in the area available to assist. Please stay on the line anyway, etc.

Guy puts the phone down, ends up shooting the guy because he went to confront him and the man charged with a tool in hand. Gets back on the phone, tells the operator he shot the guy.

5 minutes later, a dozen patrol cars show up at once to arrest the guy defending his property.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

You've missed the point entirely, I don't care if this issue gets chased up. All I want is a common courtesy call explaining why it won't be investigated... and when you say "real crimes", define it?

Judging by the amount of forum topics and articles on the Escapist, a "real crime" on this website would mean media piracy.

You have my sympathies.

I have friends and family members who work in Law Enforcement or work with Law Enforcement Agencies, and for the most part are upstanding people who have insurmountable tasks and standards to face.

But like any other group of people, some cops are just assholes. The only time and reason a car I was in was ever pulled over and fined was because the sticker on the license was expired. And this was in a dingy neighborhood with prostitution and drug dealing openly occurring in front of the police as they were ticketing us.

And the police in that neighborhood let it all go because it's too much of a hassle.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

So... if someone came up to you and punched you square in the face... you would say nothing?

How does that have anything to do with you actively instigating something? And how does it make it comparable to bullies? Why are you so quick to change the subject away from your own accountability.

I'm also upset that a lot of you are talking down to me as if I'm a child or stupid for my actions when they were entirely reasonable and happen all the time.

That you called it "road rage" yourself and still defend it as reasonable probably doesn't help your case.

- MOST people on forums do not offer 'constructive' advice.

You brought it on yourself.

Hell, the "punch in the face" thing you just said to me is a solid example of exactly WHY people might treat you like a child.

- Unless there is a threat to kill you or harm actually made, cops do not care.

Since you're the one who pulled over, the cops in the US would deem this a mutually agreed upon fray and not investigate. If you had really been a hapless victim, they would have investigated.

Stop acting like an innocent victim who nobody will listen to and accpet that you played your own part in this.

Okay... let's see how you like it when someone almost runs you off the road and into oncoming traffic, and then strangles you.

Most adults wouldn't get strangled, because they wouldn't stop to chew someone out after doing something reckless themselves. See, this is the problem. We might not like being dicked aorund in traffic, but the responsible thing is not to pick a fight in the first place.

Hey stranger, back me up on this

We wouldn't be giving Jewrean such a hard time if he was like "I made a poor decision but still they shouldn't of choked me" right?

 

[ace_of_something]

Early December last year I was involved in a road rage incident in some residential streets. A car in front of me was consistently traveling 20 KM/H under the speed limit and applying their brakes. Now normally I would do this sort of thing too if someone was right UP my ass but that wasn't the case.
So I decided to overtake at the first opportunity but as I was the other sped up and wouldn't let me. On the other side of the road there was an oncoming car and I was just narrowly able to overtake in time.
I stopped along the side of the road to yell at the three young idiots in their car who almost killed me. But wouldn't you know it, the thick heads simply got out of the car, spoke like bogans, and then proceeded to strangle me while I was in my car.
There were two witnesses on the scene who stayed. I called the Police and they didn't send anyone out because it was a 'Cold' crime. Fine... I went down to the station and gave my statement pretty much exactly how I've said it here.
Almost 6 months have passed and not a single attempt at contacting me has been made... I would even appreciate a simple "sorry but we don't think the assault is worth our time to look into". I've tried contacting the police station 5 times but they simply say "Sure we'll pass that message along" and never do.
I have completely lost faith in the law. It makes me think I can go murder people and steal cars and get away with it. What can I do to actually get an answer out of these lazy scum bags? Is there someone higher up I can talk to that will actually give enough of a shit to tell me my case isn't worth investigating?

Justice Indeed.
(Australia by the way)

Did you get the tags, model or make of the car?

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Reminds me of a story:

Guy calls 911, tells the operator a man is trespassing on his property and attempting to break into his backyard shed.

Operator tells him to stay calm, but there is no one in the area available to assist. Please stay on the line anyway, etc.

Guy puts the phone down, ends up shooting the guy because he went to confront him and the man charged with a tool in hand. Gets back on the phone, tells the operator he shot the guy.

5 minutes later, a dozen patrol cars show up at once to arrest the guy defending his property.

Because confronting a stranger in your home with a gun pointed at them is the best solution to this problem. Not, say, leaving the house? Locking yourself in a room? Going to a neighbor? Running into the street and shouting "Someone is breaking in to my house!" No, no. Just pick up your gun and confront him. I'm sure murdering someone was the best outcome.

No surprise this happened in the U.S., where guns solve every problem.

That guy is a dropkick.

 

[ace_of_something]

It really sucks that you got hurt and I wish the police could do more.
However, stranger on stranger crimes (particularly where nothing was stolen/DNA left at the scene etc) have a solving rate of about 1/100 so yeah, it probably isn't worth their time. The only times they're solved is when the victim or witnesses have information leading to the identity of the person beyond a physical description. Most departments don't even do police sketches anymore because of how inaccurate they are.

Gotta say, I'm not sure why you stopped your car either. I would've just kept driving. Hell in driver's ed class they specifically tell you not to do that. It can even be a question on the driver's test to get a license. At least in my state, and nearly all of them, you stopping and yelling at drops their aggravated assault down to assault. Federally and in most states what you did constitutes [a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words] Fighting Words[/a] by stopping your car after a tense situation it could be considered that you instigated or at least exacerbated the situation. In truth it'd be very very unlikely for them to lose the case even with witnesses. It's your word against theirs on how the fight started and in cases like that the defendant is usually who the law sides with (innocent until proven guilty) When you add all that up the police are unlikely to help you much. It's good that you reported it though in case say, you see the guy again somewhere.

My two suggestions are that I hope you learn to control your anger in traffic better and be more cautious. Most people driving don't psychologically register that the other cars have people The same way people will be really nasty to someone on the internet. Being territorial about road space does no one any good.
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Second if you really feel mishandled you'll need to figure out what department you got a hold of (county, city, or state) find their departmental website and see what it lists to lodge complaints. Most larger departments are regulated by a separate entity usually controlled by the mayor's office or county board. Smaller one's do handle complaints internally.

The best thing you can do is try to talk to them. Local news stations actually get calls like yours all the time and usually don't care, least my sister-in-law who is a producer has said as such in the past.

 

[James Joseph Emerald]

Bloody hell. What's the opposite of a keyboard warrior? I've never come across such unashamed commitment to cowardice and general appeasement. Do you all seriously blame the OP for "provoking" his attackers? That's fucking ludicrous! That's as stupid as the "she dressed in a way that was totally asking to be raped" argument. It's not your responsibility to tip-toe around the volatile personalities of every random asshole or thug you meet.

Not to mention that if these thugs are driving dangerously and strangling people, they're a definite threat to society. They are what cops and prisons were designed for.

I don't even think most of the people posting in this thread have even fully considered their own feelings on the subject. The Escapist community just loves to be thoughtlessly contrary.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Bloody hell. What's the opposite of a keyboard warrior? I've never come across such unashamed commitment to cowardice and general appeasement. Do you all seriously blame the OP for "provoking" his attackers? That's fucking ludicrous! That's as stupid as the "she dressed in a way that was totally asking to be raped" argument. It's not your responsibility to tip-toe around the volatile personalities of every random asshole or thug you meet.

Not to mention that if these thugs are driving dangerously and strangling people, they're a definite threat to society. They are what cops and prisons were designed for.

I don't even think most of the people posting in this thread have even fully considered their own feelings on the subject. The Escapist community just loves to be thoughtlessly contrary.

Where as you, apparently, just love generalization.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

It's kind of your own fault that three guys strangled you, you did provoke them. If there's a dick in a car that you just overtook, you don't get out to "yell" at them that's insane. What did you think would happen when you yelled at them? There isn't much the police could do about it, if you had the reg of the car then maybe they could have followed it up. The police shouldn't have completely ignored you when you reported it. They committed two crimes dangerous driving and assault so the police should have done something.

1) I didn't get out.
2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.
3) I do have the reg, 2 witnesses, and even a photo of the incident thanks to a witness (sorry forgot to mention). Also of course have make and model of their car.

I would advise to never stand up to a bully if they are in a position to strangle you. Self preservation before pride.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

It's kind of your own fault that three guys strangled you, you did provoke them. If there's a dick in a car that you just overtook, you don't get out to "yell" at them that's insane. What did you think would happen when you yelled at them? There isn't much the police could do about it, if you had the reg of the car then maybe they could have followed it up. The police shouldn't have completely ignored you when you reported it. They committed two crimes dangerous driving and assault so the police should have done something.

1) I didn't get out.
2) You're advising never to stand up to a bully.
3) I do have the reg, 2 witnesses, and even a photo of the incident thanks to a witness (sorry forgot to mention). Also of course have make and model of their car.

I would advise to never stand up to a bully if they are in a position to strangle you. Self preservation before pride.

Spoiler: Unless you're a Space Marine, of course.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Reminds me of a story:

Guy calls 911, tells the operator a man is trespassing on his property and attempting to break into his backyard shed.

Operator tells him to stay calm, but there is no one in the area available to assist. Please stay on the line anyway, etc.

Guy puts the phone down, ends up shooting the guy because he went to confront him and the man charged with a tool in hand. Gets back on the phone, tells the operator he shot the guy.

5 minutes later, a dozen patrol cars show up at once to arrest the guy defending his property.

Because confronting a stranger in your home with a gun pointed at them is the best solution to this problem. Not, say, leaving the house? Locking yourself in a room? Going to a neighbor? Running into the street and shouting "Someone is breaking in to my house!" No, no. Just pick up your gun and confront him. I'm sure murdering someone was the best outcome.

No surprise this happened in the U.S., where guns solve every problem.

That guy is a dropkick.

Except that didnt happen in the U.S.

The guy TOLD the cops "nevermind, I shot him"

The cops showed up 5 minutes later, arrested the theif for stealing, and arrested the victim for filing a false police report.

and OT, this is why I keep my Springfield in my car. (Yes, guns do solve the issue of people strangling you quite well!)

The story being told by the person I quoted did happen in the U.S. (911 is the emergency number for the U.S.) and you told a different story. You may as well have walked into a conversation about a man buying a motor bike and said no, it was a woman she she was selling a kite.

 

[Kodlak]

If you have this much evidence of the incident, as well as evidence of contact with the police pass all the information to a few local media companies, newspapers, tv, radio. Whoever get some public attention on the matter, they won't be able to ignore it then.

 

[James Joseph Emerald]

Bloody hell. What's the opposite of a keyboard warrior? I've never come across such unashamed commitment to cowardice and general appeasement. Do you all seriously blame the OP for "provoking" his attackers? That's fucking ludicrous! That's as stupid as the "she dressed in a way that was totally asking to be raped" argument. It's not your responsibility to tip-toe around the volatile personalities of every random asshole or thug you meet..

The fuck not? I'm not going to walk around the streets and provoke people, let alone people who obviously don't give a fuck if they're already acting reckless.

You provoke someone like that, shit will happen. If you're not prepared for it you have no one to blame but yourself.

Obviously you shouldn't go around provoking people. But I don't think it's even slightly the fault of the OP that he got strangled. He reacted in a manner that, though I wouldn't call it logical or even advisable, I would consider a natural response. Definitely not something he deserves to be berated for. Since when has it become "uncool" to have a spine? It's not even about pride or "manliness". If your response in the heat of the moment is to tuck your tail between your legs and stay out of other people's way, you're lacking some serious self respect.

]Where as you, apparently, just love generalization.

I'm sorry. Contrary and glib.