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mike1921

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So people who collect greatest hits cds and rip them to their hard drives are idiots?
Yes, there's no reason to have more than 10 gigabytes of music you don't plan on re-selling period.
Hell if I could I would love to rip my entire PS2 collection to a hard drive and connect it to my PS3 and play any of those games without having to get up and pull the game out of the cabinet.
So would I
 

Theo Samaritan

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Now don't get me wrong as I appreaciate that everyone can make mistakes, but did you completely miss everey. single. news report. on said phishing website?

The Escapist covered it, Kotaku covered it, I believe IGN covered it. Its been well known for a week. How could you not know?
What next? "Steam sucks because I let my friend use cheats on my account, but it wasn't ME that was cheating!"
We had one of these not too long ago surprisingly.

@OP, email Valve and give the billing details.
 

shadow skill

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Yes, there's no reason to have more than 10 gigabytes of music you don't plan on re-selling period.
That's funny because you can fairly easily get to the ten gigabyte mark if you are ripping greatest hits collections that come on more than two disks. If you imagine that each disk would be around 100mb when ripped to Wav or Flac (Lossless formats.) every ten or so discs would be just shy of a gig. Just this morning I saw one of those infomercials for a greatest hits collection that was ten or so discs. It's really not inconcievable to have a music library of say 300 discs (especially if we are talking about a collection that arises over a decent length of time.)which would be roughly 30gb if every cd was 100mb when ripped. If what you say were true there would be no market for high capacity DAPs like the one's Apple and Cowon make.

Your and my listening habits really do not speak for everyone else. (This is yet another reason why Steam's design is crap, it makes far too many needless assumptions about how people will utilize the service, not to mention the filesystem configurations people might have.) Smart/not lazy programmers understand this and don't do stupid things like Steam does or hardcode install paths when you can easily use a relative path or get the appropriate path from an environment variable, in addition to letting the user put their own path in during install.
 

Noiguy25

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Well, finally got the damn account back. what a relief. After i showed them the picture of the CD key it only took them about an hour or so to massage me back. And yeah, i guess I don't like to spend my time reading news on those websites. Although I apreciate the Info :D
 

willer357

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My account was stolen two years ago, and the only thing that I haveto do to retrieve it is something so trivial: just take a picture of a cd key that you have...but every time I do it the picture is too freaking big!!!
 

shadow skill

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snowplow said:
mike1921 said:
there's no reason to have more than 10 gigabytes of music you don't plan on re-selling period.
FLAC format fills that 10 gigs up quickly.
This is so true. I like to have it mainly for archival purposes and the fact that I like to do my own encoding, I know what settings I want for mp3/ogg etc. If I am downloading music I will take the Flac or other Lossless format if I can find it. I have come across bad rips one too many times to trust other people to do it for me. Besides storing CD's in Flac or some other Lossless format makes it easy to switch between DAPs/and formats without worrying about quality loss.
 

mike1921

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snowplow said:
mike1921 said:
there's no reason to have more than 10 gigabytes of music you don't plan on re-selling period.
FLAC format fills that 10 gigs up quickly.
How quickly? According to my computer a song in my format fills up about 5.5 MB, let's say Flac makes the songs 10 MB. That means you need 1000 songs to fill up up 10 gigs. Only reason to have that many songs is that you have tons of songs that you haven't ever listened to or like unless you're so into music that having to download it to your C drive is the least of your problems.
That's funny because you can fairly easily get to the ten gigabyte mark if you are ripping greatest hits collections that come on more than two disks.
Why are you ripping greatest hits collections in the first place?
 

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mike1921 said:
snowplow said:
mike1921 said:
there's no reason to have more than 10 gigabytes of music you don't plan on re-selling period.
FLAC format fills that 10 gigs up quickly.
How quickly? According to my computer a song in my format fills up about 5.5 MB, let's say Flac makes the songs 10 MB. That means you need 1000 songs to fill up up 10 gigs. Only reason to have that many songs is that you have tons of songs that you haven't ever listened to or like unless you're so into music that having to download it to your C drive is the least of your problems.
That's funny because you can fairly easily get to the ten gigabyte mark if you are ripping greatest hits collections that come on more than two disks.
Why are you ripping greatest hits collections in the first place?
Maybe he wants to be able to listen to them whilst gaming?

Am I the only one who has all his music ripped to his computer?
I put iTunes on shuffle, I hear stuff I've not heard in AAAGES. If I don't like it, I delete it, but I'm still on well over 1,500 songs.
 

mike1921

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Maybe he wants to be able to listen to them whilst gaming?
How is that impossible to do with songs that you individually picked or albums you individually picked?
Am I the only one who has all his music ripped to his computer?
No, but you may be the only one with such low standards for what they'd consider to be "their music".
I put iTunes on shuffle, I hear stuff I've not heard in AAAGES. If I don't like it, I delete it, but I'm still on well over 1,500 songs.
Any reason you never just looked through your collection for songs you don't like?
 

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Sure, there are security problems with Steam if you give out your password to a 3rd party... There are security problems with EVERYTHING if you give out your account info...the security problem is you.

As for Steam only installing things within its own folder, there is a very good, and immediately apparent reason if you reformat or want to transfer your games. Copy the whole steam folder, paste it in the new location, launch Steam. It'll download the client and reinstall it for the new location, and all your games are already good to go. It makes it so easy, and I wish all programs were designed like that.

Edit: And to the one who says you don't need more than 10GB for music. Maybe you don't, but I am using 32.2GB in iTunes alone, not to mention all the multiple recordings of various pieces I have. It's about 3/4 AAC and 1/4 Apple Lossless.