Recently I've decided my fellow man is so infuriatingly stupid, it's best to ignore them.
Radicals rarely get their way anyways
Radicals rarely get their way anyways
The PTC's "Campaign Against Violent Videogames"
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Decent argument until this statement. I've mentioned this before... statements like these only throw fuel onto their fire. When you say anything like this, they all look and say "See! We were right!"FargoDog said:
It wouldn't be that hard. In fact, I'm with you on this. Every single time anyone comes out and says something stupid like these guys are doing, we should have a pre-written document to show them. All their arguments are the same and all our arguments are the same, so why not just have something already written down, not only so we wouldn't have to repeat ourselves day after day, but to show them that their idea aren't original and are always shot down.Chamale said:
Don't know. How did people feel when they were told they were sex-obsessed lunatics for daring to listen to such scandalous acts as Elvis? How did my mom feel when she was, at twelve, told she was a tramp because her mother had died? How did I feel when people said my copy of The Complete Psionics Handbook meant I was a baby-murdering Satanist?EricII said:
It's just hatred. Educate yourself, learn the truth, and be better than the rabble. Fight against it, don't take it personally.
This type of ignorance is nothing new in the USA at least, back in the 1950s there were bans and censorship of comic books. With pop cultural entertainment and art, some bigoted ignorant parents and other people just seem to pursue censorship, banning and other ways to try to control art and entertainment they do not know anything about.
In stead of creating useless petitions perhaps they should take more time in checking the age rating of games they buy for their children. When I was young, if my mother said I couldn't buy a game because I wasn't old enough, that was that. It's down to parents to decide what is suitable for their children. They wouldn't take them to go watch a Saw film, so why do they insist in buying them violent games?
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14672&post=63765&uid=80392814444#post63765 trolled long and hard but found a place to comment
How about we send them a mature game so they recognize how they're okay!
How about we just accidentally send them Daikatana so they all die of awful storyline, gameplay, A.I., and glitches.
Or just send them Amnesia: The Dark Descent and watch as they mysteriously all have heart attacks.
Seriously, though. Maybe if you don't want your children playing mature games, you shouldn't buy them in the first place.
How about we just accidentally send them Daikatana so they all die of awful storyline, gameplay, A.I., and glitches.
Or just send them Amnesia: The Dark Descent and watch as they mysteriously all have heart attacks.
Seriously, though. Maybe if you don't want your children playing mature games, you shouldn't buy them in the first place.
More than realizing that children are not the only gamer age...
I'd say they need to learn about a little something called the ESRB... those violent videogames don't fall from the sky; a parent/guardian has to buy that for them. Seriously. It's not dev's or even geek's fault.
I'd say they need to learn about a little something called the ESRB... those violent videogames don't fall from the sky; a parent/guardian has to buy that for them. Seriously. It's not dev's or even geek's fault.
Oh, Bravo, i thought i'd be the first to congratulate you on this- but we both know these people don't like their extremely closed minds being argued against with anything as paltry as logic, current retailer policy or simple reasoning
Oh, Bravo, i thought i'd be the first to congratulate you on this- but we both know these people don't like their extremely closed minds being argued against with anything as paltry as logic, current retailer policy or simple reasoningbloodmage2 said:
Pasted directly from their website:
The players of today's video games find themselves assuming the role of the most despicable people to walk the earth by carrying out mind-altering tasks with realistic graphics. these games reward and encourage violent criminal conduct and, under current laws, retailers are not obligated to impose restrictions on the sale of video games to minors. A ten-year-old can purchase an Adult Only (AO rated) video game.
Lolololol.
Despite the fact that AO games aren't for sale in North America. And even if they were, Sony and Microsoft wont license AO games on their consoles. So if I could buy them I couldn't play them on 2/3 consoles.
The players of today's video games find themselves assuming the role of the most despicable people to walk the earth by carrying out mind-altering tasks with realistic graphics. these games reward and encourage violent criminal conduct and, under current laws, retailers are not obligated to impose restrictions on the sale of video games to minors. A ten-year-old can purchase an Adult Only (AO rated) video game.
Lolololol.
Despite the fact that AO games aren't for sale in North America. And even if they were, Sony and Microsoft wont license AO games on their consoles. So if I could buy them I couldn't play them on 2/3 consoles.
I love how they have a link to the ESRB Rating Which state:
~66% of gamers are over 18 and the average age of a game player is 29 years old (ESA) thus videogames aren't made just for kids anymore.
:3
Also:
Everyone on the PTC Board of Directors, is...Old, White, Right-Winged Christian.
That whole 'non-partisan' doesn't look to good right now, does it?
~66% of gamers are over 18 and the average age of a game player is 29 years old (ESA) thus videogames aren't made just for kids anymore.
:3
Also:
Everyone on the PTC Board of Directors, is...Old, White, Right-Winged Christian.
That whole 'non-partisan' doesn't look to good right now, does it?
Oh man, you went down the rabbit hole and pulled me with you. I just spent the last hour going through posts on that Facebook page, and these people are just bat-shit crazy. Some of the twisted logic in the comments section -- no, all of it, it all makes my brain hurt.Rain Spider said:
i do find it intresting that the front man to the PTC argument acctually doesn't agree with the PTC at all.
sen. Leland Yee simply wrote this bill to try and put legal weight behind ESRB system... as it stands, there is nothing legally preventing a 12 and 14 year old from purchasing an AO game, and he thought that wrong. he fully thinks that video games are a form of art and something that should be truely protected under the first amendment, even the graphic and gory games... only thought is that the more explicit material should stay out of the hands of minors.
and i personally can't see anything wrong with that thinking, although i disagree and believe that the community itself should be allowed to regulate its content such as Theaters, broadcasts, and Film which is self regulated.
the thing is the PTC has taken his bill and his statements and polorized it.
they state that ALL games are childish baubles which invoke stupidity and rage.
that they should be regulated like crack cocaine.
and that the game community is a bunch of bullies trying to strong arm people into submission.
and this is just stupidity at its worst.
sen. Leland Yee simply wrote this bill to try and put legal weight behind ESRB system... as it stands, there is nothing legally preventing a 12 and 14 year old from purchasing an AO game, and he thought that wrong. he fully thinks that video games are a form of art and something that should be truely protected under the first amendment, even the graphic and gory games... only thought is that the more explicit material should stay out of the hands of minors.
and i personally can't see anything wrong with that thinking, although i disagree and believe that the community itself should be allowed to regulate its content such as Theaters, broadcasts, and Film which is self regulated.
the thing is the PTC has taken his bill and his statements and polorized it.
they state that ALL games are childish baubles which invoke stupidity and rage.
that they should be regulated like crack cocaine.
and that the game community is a bunch of bullies trying to strong arm people into submission.
and this is just stupidity at its worst.
About time someone has enough gull to stand up to video gamers.
Did you know that most violent criminals and rapist may have played or herd of video games?
That alone is enough evidence to condemn you horrible baby eating bastards.
Did you know that most violent criminals and rapist may have played or herd of video games?
That alone is enough evidence to condemn you horrible baby eating bastards.
Their arguements are without ground, and i want my five minutes back.
They are however, fucking misanthropes. Like racism, having an opinion is acceptable until it becomes actions. Then you get the PTC, which is nothing but an ignorant enthusiast group.
They are however, fucking misanthropes. Like racism, having an opinion is acceptable until it becomes actions. Then you get the PTC, which is nothing but an ignorant enthusiast group.
I know you werent being serious, but all the worst serial killers, David Parker Ray, Ted Bundy, The Chessboard Killer and others, all came Before Video Games.Douchebag intent said:
