The Puppy Killer Gets What She Deserves

[InfernoJesus]

Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.

It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...

I'm not the sort of anti-human/pro-animal person who would sooner kill a man with a rusty spork than see a kitten stuck in a tree, but even so this comment is pretty messed up. A life is a life, regardless of species or 'impact on the world'. I don't like to argue when it comes to matters of opinion, but this actually kind of offends me.
Let me ask you this, then - this girl (to whom no harm actually came anyway) tries to kill six puppies by flinging them into a river. In this, she is a murderer, objectively speaking. Now granted I don't know the full background of the puppies in question, but I'm willing to assume that they've never actually done anything wrong to anyone - or, if they have, certainly nothing worth death by drowning. Do you still think that she deserves her miserable existence more than the baby dogs she tried to kill?

In short, you're asking for my interpretation of modern society's morals in this situation. I'm not going to give it, as it seems that modern society's morals are the result of generations of moral misinterpretations and are near obsolete.

I try to think about the results of my actions, rather than the actions themselves. It helps me stay away from the influence of mundane customs that society has developed.

 

[Tanis]

John Smith was a pedophile....just saying.

OT: Decent vid, girl is lucky that wasn't cats she was tossing.

 

[Oh That Dude]

Ah yes, the moronic modern day mentality of helping the offenders and not giving he victims any justice.

Lol, learn to read please. I never claimed I wasn't in favour of punishment for crimes. I simply said torture such as what you described is a fucking moronic idea: a) it's hugely cruel, hypocritically, and b) how can you hold the moral high ground if you torture people?

Ah its so disgusting it makes my stomache want to leap out of my mouth. And wow, defending pedophelia? You're one sick puppy.

I'll defend paedophilia, sure. I won't defend acting on the desires resulting from it, in case I didn't make that explicitly clear, but it's not like the desires themselves can be helped.

Anyway, so so far you've strawman'd and defended the suggestion that torture is a viable punishment for animal abusers. Seems kinda like you might just possibly be trolling.

 

[Axolotl]

Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.

It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.

Do you honestly think that the sort of person who would kill harmless creatures for amusement will have a positive impact upon the world?

 

[littlebunnyfifi]

Yaaay, *****-eating sharks rule!

 

[duchaked]

I have to say, I did enjoy that. As did the dog and freshwater man-eating shark in the river judging by the smiles.

lol freshwater man-eating sharks are the best (worst? haha)

 

[WhoaItsBrett]

Why do you value the lives of other animals equally with humans?

I value life in general.
All life is equal, whether it be a human life, or the life of a bug.
I feel that we don't have the right to try and assume our lives are any more important than the life of a dog. (or any other animal.)
All life is important.
I'll throw out there that I do eat meat, and have killed a bug before.
But I don't think for a second that I'm anymore important then the animal I may be eating, or the bug I may have stepped on.

You can't say that all life is equal while eating meat. Especially, the way animals are treated by the meat industry.

I can, and did say that all life is equal.
I eat meat because I believe it is natural.
I also get my meat from local farmers, ones who treat their animals properly.
I don't think its right to try and "compare" one living things life worth with anothers.
Life, is life. Plain and simple, whether it be a bugs life, or a humans, or a dogs. Killing an animal to eat it, is fine. But killing one of boredom, or to just have "fun" isn't. Life isn't something we should take away just to have "fun."

 

[Blatherscythe]

Yaaay, *****-eating sharks rule!

Agreed. They are awesome.

 

[Mighty the Moose]

Human lives are worth infinitely more than dog lives. Human's have the potential to impact the world in ways that dogs just can't.

It upsets me that people would put the lives of virtually useless animals before humans.

And this point is supposed to justify her behavior?

It is one thing stating that human lives are intrinsically more valuable than non-human ones, its something else entirely to state that cruelty to animals is acceptable. I hope that is not what you are implying...

Also, with which strange metric are you measuring the usefulness of a life, human or not?

You go think about it, and I'll go get some popcorn ready for what I am sure is to be some profound philosophy.

I value everything based on how it will/may impact my life. If an animal being killed does not have the potential to impact me whatsoever, said incident has no value to me.

I determine the usefulness of a life based on its potential to impact society as a whole. Using this metric, you will likely come to the same conclusion I have. In fact, in this case, this girl's amusement is likely more useful than the dog's life, therefor I condone this act of "cruelty".

Backing up an argument with morals obsoletes the argument, as morals are illogical ideals, implanted into children at birth.

How completely juvenile and trite your points are. I recently heard a 14-year old spout an analogously inane set of "arguments" a few days ago. I smiled and gave him a pat on the head as he was coming into his intellectual own and was the son of a friend.

And of course you didn't answer the question. "I determine the usefulness of a life based on its potential to impact society as a whole" is about a meaningless a statement as any I've heard.

 

[Engarde]

Meanwhile, in poverty. I am sorry to everyone who loves animals out there, I just cannot get...motivated about them, whilst the huge amounts of issues plague human society. I do not want to argue, as my opinion is just that, and opinion. I guess I am just a...hmm....speciesist? I do not know.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

Pity that didn't actually happen.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Wasn't as funny as the original.

 

[SAMAS]

Personally, I think that's wrong too. You don't want your dog to have puppies, then spay the *****(and I mean that literally).

But then, those farmers aren't stupid enough to brag about it by putting a video of it online.

And sometimes that's the difference between necessary Evil and real Evil: You're not supposed to take pleasure in it.

 

[Mighty the Moose]

Meanwhile, in poverty. I am sorry to everyone who loves animals out there, I just cannot get...motivated about them, whilst the huge amounts of issues plague human society. I do not want to argue, as my opinion is just that, and opinion. I guess I am just a...hmm....speciesist? I do not know.

It seems that you are incorrectly treating animal welfare and human-centric social welfare as a zero-sum game. It's not one or the other. Yes, it is absurd how poorly our attempts to alleviate human suffering have failed. That does not mean, however, there is no room to conduct ourselves respectfully and humanely towards animals in addition to each other. There is clearly space for both.

BTW, I grew up amongst poverty when my family was assigned to Africa. You have a computer, an internet connection and the time to post on this website in contrast to more than 95% of the world's population.

 

[Kelethor]

As the dominant and, arguably, the most intelligent/aware species on this planet we have the responsibility to care for it. I'm not going to go into another environmental debate here, but that's my opinion. We're aware and moral creatures and that fact has to impact on our behavior. Yes, I eat meat, and yes, I enjoy it. I also wear leather and goose down and fur. I fish and I hunt, when given the opportunity. I don't however, waste life needlessly and I like to think that killing for a purpose, ie, feeding/clothing your family is different than killing for fun. I have a snake and I feed rats to it, so yes, I'm aware that there is a whole circle of life going on outside my door which does, indeed, include death.

Being aware of what is in your plate and how it got there is important; it helps you make informed decisions about what you buy. Don't like the state of your country's chicken farms and how they treat their animals? Buy grain-fed, free roaming birds and eggs that come from free-roaming farms instead. Don't like to think about how the industry treats and kills cows and pigs? Don't buy it.

Don't have any money to humanely put down unwanted pets? Take them to a shelter. Heck just drive over there, abandon them at the door and run. Anything's better than this. At least in a shelter they'd have the chance of being picked up.

Also, drowning is a terrible death. Animal torture cannot be excused. And I agree with previous posters stating that we're f*cked up for getting all angry over kittens and puppies and not over pigs, cows and insects. People will always react more strongly to cute, fluffy things being hurt and it's a shame because a lot of arse-ugly creatures are suffering/losing their habitat because we can't muster up public opinion to give a shit.

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So, yeah. Getting all riled up over this is a little ridiculous, I know. But this girl needs to be brought to justice for what she's done. A fine and a mark on her file is well and good for me. Using the excuse that farmers have been doing this forever is just plain lazy; if the world changes around us, shouldn't our own view of it and behavior evolve as well?

If you make only one post on the Escapist, Make it this one.

Bravo Friend, Bravo.

 

[Engarde]

Meanwhile, in poverty. I am sorry to everyone who loves animals out there, I just cannot get...motivated about them, whilst the huge amounts of issues plague human society. I do not want to argue, as my opinion is just that, and opinion. I guess I am just a...hmm....speciesist? I do not know.

It seems that you are incorrectly treating animal welfare and human-centric social welfare as a zero-sum game. It's not one or the other. Yes, it is absurd how poorly our attempts to alleviate human suffering have failed. That does not mean, however, there is no room to conduct ourselves respectfully and humanely towards animals in addition to each other. There is clearly space for both.

BTW, I grew up amongst poverty when my family was assigned to Africa. You have a computer, an internet connection and the time to post on this website in contrast to more than 95% of the world's population.

Yes, my apologies. In hindsight, I did not come across well, thank you for pointing that out for me. I do feel worse for having posted what I did, and I am happy for you to bring this into clear light.