The purge of adult games.

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Lil devils x said:
IDC what the Japanese say. THIS will ALWAYS be YURI.


There will be no free will only MY will.
Why not both?

(If I was actually a weeb I'd totally photoshop a combined abomination and post it...)
I am going to have nightmares now just thinking about it.
 

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Mwahahaha! Your creepy anime titties are allll miiine!

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Wait, what? It's been reversed already??

Bah! Next time, you won't be so lucky with my anime deconstruction machine almost complete, pesky amorous humans...then will come the sterilisation hynposis program.
 

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Zontar said:
The overt, blatant, explicit hypocrisy at play over this issue is disgusting. Leftist radicals try to get games banned, media outlets lockstep with their authoritarian ideological allies, and the response is that anyone, left right or centre, who opposed such action was "le ebil right winger", yet it happens now, and people suddenly pretend to care about an issue they where either apathetic or actively supporting of months earlier just because it's their political opponents doing it towards media they like instead of their political allies doing it towards media they don't.

Antigamers are still antigamers, and liberals, conservatives and libertarians won't forget that progressives and the far right will turn on a dime if things are convenient for them, and that both are untrustworthy for gamers.
The only game I've ever tried to ban is
 

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Zontar said:
The overt, blatant, explicit hypocrisy at play over this issue is disgusting. Leftist radicals try to get games banned, media outlets lockstep with their authoritarian ideological allies, and the response is that anyone, left right or centre, who opposed such action was "le ebil right winger", yet it happens now, and people suddenly pretend to care about an issue they where either apathetic or actively supporting of months earlier just because it's their political opponents doing it towards media they like instead of their political allies doing it towards media they don't.

Antigamers are still antigamers, and liberals, conservatives and libertarians won't forget that progressives and the far right will turn on a dime if things are convenient for them, and that both are untrustworthy for gamers.
It really goes to show how lacking in guiding principles both sides are. When the right bans games, it's about saving the children from the corrupting influence of playing adult games so that the kids will turn out the way they want them to be. When the left does it, it's about saving the children from the corrupting influence of misogyny, patriarchy, sexism, and any other "social construct" that may keep kids from being the way they want them to be. It's never OK when the other side does it, but MY side does it for the RIGHT reasons!
 

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As both a conservative and someone who was part of GamerGate, why, just, why? There is nothing gained from knowingly misrepresenting people you don't like, overtly insulting us [...]
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OT: it's honestly refreshing to see the one trying to take away our games being someone other then a socialist.
Priceless.
 

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Zontar said:
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But...but...but..I thought only left wing SJW's did such things! GamerGate told me that conservatives were our allies!
As both a conservative and someone who was part of GamerGate, why, just, why? There is nothing gained from knowingly misrepresenting people you don't like, overtly insulting us and also insulting anyone reading indirectly by implying they'd fall for it.
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OT: it's honestly refreshing to see the one trying to take away our games being someone other then a socialist. First and foremost it means we won't have most of the gaming media and a depressingly large part of the community defending the act, instead they'll be attacking it and defending the community, where as with socialists they defend the attack and attack the community. This also helps to show the hypocrisy in such people, since now that it's someone who isn't ideologically aligned with them doing it, they now take issue with it.
...*sigh*. Sometimes I wonder if you do this on purpose.

Anyway, Valve seriously needs to get its priorities unfucked. Asset flips ok, active shooter ok, tits bad? Piss off
 

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I personally can't see any "purge" going on, what with the announcement of a new Leisure Suit Larry game just added to Steam to be released later in the year.
 

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Silvanus said:
Zontar said:
As both a conservative and someone who was part of GamerGate, why, just, why? There is nothing gained from knowingly misrepresenting people you don't like, overtly insulting us [...]
Zontar said:
OT: it's honestly refreshing to see the one trying to take away our games being someone other then a socialist.
Priceless.
Honestly unless you're a socialist who also happens to support banning games you don't like, there's really nothing to see here. This decade has been downright dominated by socialists when it comes to those trying to ban games, just like the 00's was dominated by conservatives doing it, the 90s by liberals, the 80s by... well it wasn't popular enough for a scare but you get the point.
 

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Zontar said:
Silvanus said:
Zontar said:
As both a conservative and someone who was part of GamerGate, why, just, why? There is nothing gained from knowingly misrepresenting people you don't like, overtly insulting us [...]
Zontar said:
OT: it's honestly refreshing to see the one trying to take away our games being someone other then a socialist.
Priceless.
Honestly unless you're a socialist who also happens to support banning games you don't like, there's really nothing to see here. This decade has been downright dominated by socialists when it comes to those trying to ban games, just like the 00's was dominated by conservatives doing it, the 90s by liberals, the 80s by... well it wasn't popular enough for a scare but you get the point.
I'm not 100% sure you know what a socialist is.

But hey, you seem to be trying to both play the victim card while also playing the smug superiority card without noticing the obvious contradiction, so it fits.

Just to be safe though, please tell me what an ECONOMIC viewpoint has to do with the SOCIAL aspects of gaming.
 

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Zontar said:
Silvanus said:
Zontar said:
As both a conservative and someone who was part of GamerGate, why, just, why? There is nothing gained from knowingly misrepresenting people you don't like, overtly insulting us [...]
Zontar said:
OT: it's honestly refreshing to see the one trying to take away our games being someone other then a socialist.
Priceless.
Honestly unless you're a socialist who also happens to support banning games you don't like, there's really nothing to see here. This decade has been downright dominated by socialists when it comes to those trying to ban games, just like the 00's was dominated by conservatives doing it, the 90s by liberals, the 80s by... well it wasn't popular enough for a scare but you get the point.
No, it was not. All of those decades were dominated by conservative banning everything from video games, books, music, birth control and Alcohol. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff.

You can literally google every year of the past decade to find what conservative lawmakers tried to ban. Porn and video games always make the list.
 

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No, it was not. All of those decades were dominated by conservative banning everything from video games, books, music, birth control and Alcohol. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff.
Simple, I'm not rewriting the history books to pretend the Democrat's anti-gaming campaign of the 90s was conservative driven, or that the predominately progressive anti-gaming push over the past half decade or so didn't happen due to the overwhelming nature of the evidence, namely that this site itself has it on its records.

There's censorship from both sides, pretending otherwise is pure, blind partisanship and nothing more. I don't like it when conservatives try to censor sex and language, I don't like it when liberals and socialists try to censor violence, and I don't like it when people try to pretend "it's different when we do it", or "all historical data and your own first hand experience are all lies, our side never did it, it's all a massive conspiracy that our politicians happen to take part in".
 

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Zontar said:
Honestly unless you're a socialist who also happens to support banning games you don't like, there's really nothing to see here. This decade has been downright dominated by socialists when it comes to those trying to ban games, just like the 00's was dominated by conservatives doing it, the 90s by liberals, the 80s by... well it wasn't popular enough for a scare but you get the point.
When somebody generalises by saying Conservatives ban games, that's misrepresentation and insulting. When you throw exactly the same accusation towards a different political group, it's all well and good.

Literally the sole difference is that when you did it, you directed it towards a political group you don't like.

You can throw the accusation, but then you can't complain about politically-generalising insults. Or you can complain about politically-generalising insults, but then you can't throw the accusation. You can do one or the other; to do both is transparent hypocrisy.
 

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Zontar said:
Lil devils x said:
No, it was not. All of those decades were dominated by conservative banning everything from video games, books, music, birth control and Alcohol. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff.
Simple, I'm not rewriting the history books to pretend the Democrat's anti-gaming campaign of the 90s was conservative driven, or that the predominately progressive anti-gaming push over the past half decade or so didn't happen due to the overwhelming nature of the evidence, namely that this site itself has it on its records.

There's censorship from both sides, pretending otherwise is pure, blind partisanship and nothing more. I don't like it when conservatives try to censor sex and language, I don't like it when liberals and socialists try to censor violence, and I don't like it when people try to pretend "it's different when we do it", or "all historical data and your own first hand experience are all lies, our side never did it, it's all a massive conspiracy that our politicians happen to take part in".
You are rewriting the history books. We literally learned about conservatives burning books and banning video games and music in class. Are you failing to realize that being anti porn is actually part of the Republican platform?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republican-platform-labels-pornography-public-health-crisis

Are you ALSO failing to realize that Bill Clinton was known as a Moderate conservative from Arkansas, a very conservative state he was governor of? Yes, there are conservative Democrats as well, and he was one of them. Hillary Clinton, for example, was the most religious candidate by far, even giving sermons herself at her church and a life long devout Christian. Most people do not seem to realize that because they get misinformed by political propaganda. The Clinton's were not the only ones trying to ban porn and video games however, the rest of the conservatives in congress did so as well. It was still conservatives, not liberals trying to do the banning regardless of their party affiliation at the time.


You should also not confuse people wanting content to be improved with actually wanting to ban something. Someone voicing their displeasure with something and wanting it changed does not equal a ban.
 

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Silvanus said:
When somebody generalises by saying Conservatives ban games, that's misrepresentation and insulting. When you throw exactly the same accusation towards a different political group, it's all well and good.
How is pointing out the fact that for the past few years the push against games has been from socialists anything other then pointing out the fact that, well, it's been years since there was a major push from a different source. In the first world at least.
You can throw the accusation, but then you can't complain about politically-generalising insults. Or you can complain about politically-generalising insults, but then you can't throw the accusation. You can do one or the other; to do both is transparent hypocrisy.
Except again, pointing out that over the past few years its been socialists trying to ban games they don't like isn't hypocritical of me in the slightest, it would be hypocritical if I was stating that only socialists try to ban games, or that it's somehow different when conservatives try to ban games, but I did neither, only point out a fact, one that makes my wing of politics look bad to boot.

I know this place has had a long history of English-to-English translations problems, but this is a new one.
 

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Zontar said:
Silvanus said:
When somebody generalises by saying Conservatives ban games, that's misrepresentation and insulting. When you throw exactly the same accusation towards a different political group, it's all well and good.
How is pointing out the fact that for the past few years the push against games has been from socialists anything other then pointing out the fact that, well, it's been years since there was a major push from a different source. In the first world at least.
You can throw the accusation, but then you can't complain about politically-generalising insults. Or you can complain about politically-generalising insults, but then you can't throw the accusation. You can do one or the other; to do both is transparent hypocrisy.
Except again, pointing out that over the past few years its been socialists trying to ban games they don't like isn't hypocritical of me in the slightest, it would be hypocritical if I was stating that only socialists try to ban games, or that it's somehow different when conservatives try to ban games, but I did neither, only point out a fact, one that makes my wing of politics look bad to boot.

I know this place has had a long history of English-to-English translations problems, but this is a new one.
Which socialists exactly did this?
 

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You are rewriting the history books. We literally learned about conservatives burning books and banning video games and music in class. Are you failing to realize that being anti porn is actually part of the Republican platform?
Yeah and progressives both banned and destroyed alcohol, tried to ban comics (wasn't non-partisan but given they've ruined the medium recently it's worth bringing up), and did their fair share of trying to ban video games (which, again, pretty recent stuff on that front).

I don't see why you're trying to make a non-partisan problem into a partisan one.

Are you ALSO failing to realize that Bill Clinton was known as a Moderate conservative from Arkansas, a very conservative state he was governor of? Yes, there are conservative Democrats as well, and he was one of them. Hillary Clinton, for example, was the most religious candidate by far, even giving sermons herself at her church and a life long devout Christian. Most people do not seem to realize that because they get misinformed by political propaganda. The Clinton's were not the only ones trying to ban porn and video games however, the rest of the conservatives in congress did so as well. It was still conservatives, not liberals trying to do the banning regardless of their party affiliation at the time.
The Clintons are hard to place down since they're corporatists of the highest order who go along with anything that the Democratic party supports (which is why they went from faux-liberal to faux-progressive at the drop of a hat), but the main driving force behind the 90s game crisis was liberal members of the Democratic party. Did members of the GOP go along with it? Sure. Did liberals do the same in the 2000s? Yes. Did conservatives do the same in the 2010s? Well that's what this thread was originally posted about.

Again I ask, why are you trying to pretend this non-partisan issue is partisan? I know you hate the GOP, but you're trying to pretend the records and memories of millions have been falsified for reasons I can't fathom. You know that American liberals aren't ubermench who are innately superior to the other 98.7% of the human race right?
 

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Zontar said:
Lil devils x said:
You are rewriting the history books. We literally learned about conservatives burning books and banning video games and music in class. Are you failing to realize that being anti porn is actually part of the Republican platform?
Yeah and progressives both banned and destroyed alcohol, tried to ban comics (wasn't non-partisan but given they've ruined the medium recently it's worth bringing up), and did their fair share of trying to ban video games (which, again, pretty recent stuff on that front).

I don't see why you're trying to make a non-partisan problem into a partisan one.

Are you ALSO failing to realize that Bill Clinton was known as a Moderate conservative from Arkansas, a very conservative state he was governor of? Yes, there are conservative Democrats as well, and he was one of them. Hillary Clinton, for example, was the most religious candidate by far, even giving sermons herself at her church and a life long devout Christian. Most people do not seem to realize that because they get misinformed by political propaganda. The Clinton's were not the only ones trying to ban porn and video games however, the rest of the conservatives in congress did so as well. It was still conservatives, not liberals trying to do the banning regardless of their party affiliation at the time.
The Clintons are hard to place down since they're corporatists of the highest order who go along with anything that the Democratic party supports (which is why they went from faux-liberal to faux-progressive at the drop of a hat), but the main driving force behind the 90s game crisis was liberal members of the Democratic party. Did members of the GOP go along with it? Sure. Did liberals do the same in the 2000s? Yes. Did conservatives do the same in the 2010s? Well that's what this thread was originally posted about.

Again I ask, why are you trying to pretend this non-partisan issue is partisan? I know you hate the GOP, but you're trying to pretend the records and memories of millions have been falsified for reasons I can't fathom. You know that American liberals aren't ubermench who are innately superior to the other 98.7% of the human race right?
You are confusing two different things. Democrat =\= Liberal. The conservatives both Democrats and Republicans went along with it, not the Liberals.

EDIT: This is the Liberal Stance for example:

Liberal Education: At This College, Videogames Are a Varsity Sport
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-college-offers-videogame-scholarships-for-league-of-legends-1409625331

EDIT2: this should clarify things further:
lib?er?al
ˈlib(ə)rəl/Submit
adjective
adjective: liberal
1.
open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
"they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people"
favorable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
"liberal citizenship laws"
synonyms: tolerant, unprejudiced, unbigoted, broad-minded, open-minded, enlightened; More
antonyms: narrow-minded, bigoted
(in a political context) favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform.
"a liberal democratic state"
synonyms: progressive, advanced, modern, forward-looking, forward-thinking, progressivist, enlightened, reformist, radical
"a liberal social agenda"
antonyms: reactionary, conservative
of or characteristic of Liberals or a Liberal Party.
Banning video games or porn is the opposite of the definition of a Liberal. They are obviously NOT a Liberal if that is their position.
 

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Yeah and progressives both banned and destroyed alcohol
Yet the only people I can find now who said that Prohibition was a good idea are Christian conservatives...

I don't see why you're trying to make a non-partisan problem into a partisan one.
We could ask you the same thing.

I know you hate the GOP, but you're trying to pretend the records and memories of millions have been falsified for reasons I can't fathom.
Says the man who thinks some of us don't know or lived through the Satanic Panic.

It wasn't liberals and Democrats claiming The Smurfs were turning kids into communists or He-Man was making your child a devil worshiper. Don't get me started on D&D.

You talk a big game about making this non partisan, but somehow, you manage to derail a topic of right wing censoring into "Nah, this is still about leftists".
 

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Meantime while this happened, STEAM sees a 15% jump in game sales before they released their statement email.


It's just funny how such small vocal groups of Liberals and conservatives, love to either bash media for one thing or another. Then ignore they ever did such a thing in the past. Life is too short people, just enjoy what you like as long as it's legal.
 

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Smithnikov said:
But...but...but..I thought only left wing SJW's did such things! GamerGate told me that conservatives were our allies!
It's both. The far left and the far right both push an authoritarian agenda and seek to force their extremism upon the general populace, and sometimes their objectives align. They want the same thing in this case, just for different but equally stupid reasons.