It takes a while.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
OK, i just read the descriptions and i have to say yes, that is horrible and not silent at all...archont said:You are correct, OP.
Reference material:
Warning: violent subject matter.
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/
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All in all I don't recommend learning those techniques from games.
The perfect knife for performing this technique would be something like the Cold Steel AK-47. However I still would choose the versatility of a longer knife for overt use.
Hahah - sounds good.kman123 said:Oh I'm friending you right now man.Lt_Bromhead said:kman123 said:You must have had the BEST bedtime stories.Lt_Bromhead said:My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.
He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
Hahah, his favourite stories were always ones involving army intel cock-ups, funnily enough. So they were almost alway amusing.
Remind me to tell you some of his Ireland stories sometime...![]()
Not me personally but my father has... killing someone...archont said:Have you actually practiced the technique you're describing or are you pulling it out of your arse?Comando96 said:...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.
If the former who was your instructor.
Dunno about his dad but you'll be surprised how often a drunk ex-military man will go into the people they have killed with more personal involvement than shooting someone at distance.Impluse_101 said:Did he regularly do that when you were 10?Lt_Bromhead said:My dad was a commando, and I seem to remember him mentioning clapping a hand over the victim's mouth and just stabbing him in the throat as much as possible.
He may have been telling me tall tales, however...
I was only about ten at the time...
There is no "silent" kill, bones make noise when they break, but having a broken neck is often a pretty big barrier to screaming. assuming you can get a good grip on him and yank all the way before he screams.let said:Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill
I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.Harrowdown said:So you've just proven to a bunch of strangers that you know how to kill someone. Congratulations?
...good point. Regardless, without the ability to scream it would be very difficult to hear it from far away. Very messy and hard to hide though.archont said:It takes a while.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
See video:
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-massacre-1999-video-worst-beheading/
True but landing a hit there is nigh-impossible. The area is obscured by loose clothing and hands are naturally down, not up.spartan231490 said:I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.
What gun exactly?MacLeRoy said:ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
does this mean i didnt win?? :/archont said:What gun exactly?MacLeRoy said:ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
Edit: Matter of fact what ammo?
Edit2: And which brand of suppressor?
Pretty sure that's the same artery, just a different access point. You are talking about the one on top of the shoulder near where the shoulder meets the neck right?archont said:True but landing a hit there is nigh-impossible. The area is obscured by loose clothing and hands are naturally down, not up.spartan231490 said:I don't know, too many variables. Probably less than a minute, but it would take longer than you think, especially if you only cut one jugular. What you really want to aim for is the carotid, since that pumps blood to the brain, and cutting it drops blood pressure in the brain which can cause a person to pass out. They also bleed out faster. The Artery under the arm is actually supposed to be a faster bleed-out than even a carotid cut(something rediculous like 18 seconds is what I heard), it's one of the most popular methods for butchering pigs because it's the fastest.
Another technique is going for the subclavian artery/vein in the shoulder. Supposedly 5 seconds or less until the opponent is unconscious, 10 until death. Depends on whether the cut is smooth or jagged and if the artery is transected partially or wholly though.
Silenced gunfire is still very loud, a great deal louder than a guy thrashing a gurgling, although probably still quieter than a full-blown scream.MacLeRoy said:ive only four words for you: alone, gun with silencer. Did i win?
I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.scar_47 said:From behind with a knife your best bet would be to simultaneously cover their mout while stabbing the in the neck about halfway back and push the knife forward your hitting the carotid and jugular as well as severing their wind pipe they become unconscious almost immediately due to the drop in blood pressure and will bleed out in 10-15 seconds even if the remained conscious they can't screan become you've cut their wind pipe and have their mouth covered, then you lower them to the ground, snapping someones neck is iffy depending on hieght and positioning it can be trick to get the leverage you need to actually break the neck. Most
I couldn't bring myself to watch that video.archont said:It takes a while.Nieroshai said:Muffling the victim until he bleeds out (which does not take long with the jugular cut, I'm certain)will result in, if not utterly silent, at least a kill you won't be able to hear if there's moderate background noise. Also, the windpipe below the larynx would be severed, so all you'd hear would be gasping and gurgling. Once again, not quiet as a mouse but you're not gonna hear it if you aren't in the same room.
See video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1187215494
Graphic content warning, obviously.