the REAL way to make a silent kill

[Treblaine]

I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

Yeah, but at least it's not as loud as a gun, a gun you can hear hundreds of metres away and the entire base gets alerted to that very loud and distinctive sound.

Distant faint gurgling noise and some thumping and russling? That doesn't carry far and even if it does it isn't instantly alarming.

OK, you may not be able to kill someone RIGHT BEHIND another, but the idea is a skulking around along a line of defence you can mullar some dudes in a foxhole without the next foxhole noticing and tossing a grenade over.

I can see why most go for the throat, as it is an incredibly sensitive point that you do not need to apply much force to. If you are off by and inch well you get the jugular instead of the wind pipe, still a good hit.

The base of the skull is thinnER that but still very thick, you have to stab REALLY FUCKING HARD to break through the skull, and the knife would have to be very long, narrow and thin yet strong with a point designed for chipping through hard substances. I'd say you can only reliably do that if;
(1) you train so vigorously on this to the point of neglecting more important soldiers studies (marksmanship/endurance)
(2) a special device was used instead like a captive bolt pistol to punch through the skull

I think it is telling that no butchers ever try to slaughter animals by stabbing through the skull of even lightly built animals like lambs, and they are EXPERTS at quick, efficient and quite killing. They use a bolt-gun or electrodes, but they always depend on the twin exsanguination and suffocation of a sliced throat to make sure they are 100% dead... you do NOT want them waking up when you start preparing their carcass for butchering.

I did hear the SAS used very powerful tazers for silent takedowns, applied to the base of the skull across their spinal cord it fucks them up terribly, and quietly.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

I'm sure a stab to the lung would work, just hold their nose and a quick puncture.


Assassin's Creed ftw...

 

[tombman888]

Congratulations, you can murder people if they don't see you there....

now what?... THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT MUFFINS!!! (if it still lives after this post)

I like chocolate chip muffins, nice and crumbly =)

 

[evilneko]

I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

This is why people blame video games on mass murders.

Mass murders cause video games? Holy shit!

Well, actually, they kinda do... I mean, some insensitive clod made a Colombine game, and didn't some other clod make one about the Oslo gunman too, or was that just a rumor....?

 

[Treblaine]

I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

This is why people blame video games on mass murders.

Uhhh, did he not just say "Marine Mike reviews", that is a user on this forum.

It is the US Government who taught that and didn't feel the need to impress that it was a secret technique not to be repeated.

Most games follow the queue of movies with stab/slice to throat to silently kill.

 

[mrF00bar]

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

MW2 I think, when Price goes all rambo.

 

[Griffolion]

Griffolion's guide to a silent kill:

1) Eat hot chilli / Nando's
2) Gas
3) ????
4) Profit

 

[Doctor Brobotnik]

It's easier to just fart in an elevator and hit the alarm on the way out.

 

[thest3alth]

This thread is bad and you should all feel bad.

 

[Taham]

I'm no expert, but I thought the idea was to creep up, before sawing through the throat as hard and fast as you can.

 

[Taham]

Uhhh... seeing as you said "silent kill", it doesn't mean with just a knife, or if the bloke on the recieving end's friends are physically close, or on a radio or something.
I mean, if they were just on a radio, then you could crush their skull with a hammer, which would probably stop them grabbing any communication device.

And for those people who will doubtless scream "use your common sense on the situation", then I shall stick with my previous post.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Thanks for that. I need to know this...

 

[Harlief]

I've read some of Marine Mike Reviews here, and thought to add one of my own like his.

There is a myth going on about slitting somebody's throat with a knife is a silent kill. It is anything but silent. The enemy will gurgle and thrash around until his brains run out of oxygen, creating a lot of noise in the process.

No, if you want a silent kill, you gotta put your blade at the indent at the base of your enemy's skull (bone is thin there) and slam upward at a 45-degree angle. You'll scramble his medulla oblongata and the motor senses are cut off immediately.

I think they did that in one of the later CoD games, like Black Ops.

This is why people blame video games on mass murders.

Mass murders cause video games? Holy shit!

Well, actually, they kinda do... I mean, some insensitive clod made a Colombine game, and didn't some other clod make one about the Oslo gunman too, or was that just a rumor....?

Haha, well spotted! I can't believe I muddled up my message that much... having said that, there are a lot of WWII games out there.

Uhhh, did he not just say "Marine Mike reviews", that is a user on this forum.

It is the US Government who taught that and didn't feel the need to impress that it was a secret technique not to be repeated.

Most games follow the queue of movies with stab/slice to throat to silently kill.

Yeah, I was a little confused as to why we'd need to know how to kill someone silently and that the post overlooks the whole ethical issue of showing *ahem* "efficient" techniques of murder.

 

[sms_117b]

Or you could drop a drop of Hydroflouric (HF) on the top of someones skull, it burns the nerves faster than they can transmit the pain, will eventually burn through the brain killing in a very silent fasion.

 

[MordinSolus]

And the point of this thread is....?

Same as those Marine Mike Reviews? Clearing myth.

Are you sure you're not trying to train an army of knife-wielding serial killers? For example, V for Vendetta.

 

[StBishop]

...if your fast you can breat their spine... by twisting their neck to a 120 Degree angle, which would do the same as the knife to the back of the skull... but without the need for a knife.

Have you actually practiced the technique you're describing or are you pulling it out of your arse?

If the former who was your instructor.

It is possible. My source is a retired SAS hand to hand combat instructor for both Australian and GB SAS at different times.

Twist their neck really fast to the side, snap their brain stem. Then the body is even made easy to thief style hide if nesecary due to no blood (pulling their shoulders in the other direction will help to) This is the real silent kill

Not quite. You can't simply twist it "to the side" you need to go beyond how far they'd normally be able to turn to cause any real damage, and the speed is more about increased force than anything else. More force = more turning = more damage to spinal column.

 

[Det.Mittens]

If you shoot someone in the head from a great enough distance then the bullet will reach them before the shot which is kinda silent.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

I always considered this how to do a damn good stealth kill.

Joking aside, I always was led to believe Knife in kidney; hand over mouth. Wait till victim Target expires.

 

[StBishop]

I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.

It'd be remarkably hard to twist a knife that's passed between the ribs, assuming you've managed to get in between the ribs.

Like you've said, hitting the heart (and the left ventricle specifically) would be incredibly hard.

Neck is an easier target, the arteries are easy enough to hit if you drag along this line:

If you have a thin, less strong knife there's another way called 'Pulling the Plug' where you insert it right above their first vertebrae and then twist sharply. Snaps the brain stem right in half.

That's be so hard it's rediculous.

Have you seen the joint between the atlus and skull?

It looks like this:

That's really high up. It'd be incredibly hard to reach with a knife.

 

[Berethond]

I've been thinking, and a good stab/twist to the heart wouldn't be a bad idea either. It should result in the same blood pressure drop as the carotid cut and it's easier. It's also a little easier to miss too, so I can't really decide which is your best bet. On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty hard to get the leverage you need to shove a blade through the throat like that, although you're pretty likely to take out at least one carotid on the stab anyway, so it's not that crucially important. Still, I can't imagine it would be easy, that is a lot of cutting surface and you don't have the advantage of momentum.

It'd be remarkably hard to twist a knife that's passed between the ribs, assuming you've managed to get in between the ribs.

Like you've said, hitting the heart (and the left ventricle specifically) would be incredibly hard.

Neck is an easier target, the arteries are easy enough to hit if you drag along this line:

If you have a thin, less strong knife there's another way called 'Pulling the Plug' where you insert it right above their first vertebrae and then twist sharply. Snaps the brain stem right in half.

That's be so hard it's rediculous.

Have you seen the joint between the atlus and skull?

It looks like this:

That's really high up. It'd be incredibly hard to reach with a knife.

Well I didn't say it would be easy, obviously you would need lots of luck and training. And I understand that it's really high, since I'm short, even throat-cutting wouldn't really work for me. Even if I could reach, I'd get blood in my eyes <.<