The reason I hate Michael Bay

[Phenakist]

I can't complain about him that much to be honest, the only thing that makes me dislike him is his... you guessed it, Camera work.

Bay's mind, Shakey Moving Camera + Explosion = Good action
Reality, Shakey Moving Camera + Explosion= BAD Scene

Allow me to explain a bit more, every time something happens, he insists to follow it about with what seems like someone hyped up on half the worlds supply of caffeine and can't hold the camera still to save their life, seriously, what's wrong with a few smooth sweeping shots around the action? Why does he ALWAYS have to be shoving the shaking camera in everything?

A good example would be transformers, everything aside from some of the camera work in the action scenes and the pointless love story was perfection. But everytime there's an action sequence, BOOM Que Shakey the cameraman.

 

[magnus gallant]

you know why i hate micheal bay? because every movie he makes has to have that close up shakey camera action where its like your a person in the movie, but it always comes out as you not being able to see whats going on


and also, transformers is about robot who can turn into other things, not human kids dealing with high school crap

 

[Wayte]

Sorry, but i find it funny that you guys all hate Michael Bay because he makes films that appeal to the audience that he aims them at.

I mean seriously, its like Halo. People like it and everyone gets annoyed because "everybody else's opinion is wrong and what i like is so much better".

You all sicken me.

Hey hey hey no fair, I only dislike it on the concept that that sort of ting is choking out the good shit >.>
Actually I do like it, it just needs to know its place. Like Halo, Halo knows it's place and it's happy there, thats why I love Halo so much.

 

[MR T3D]

I am disappointed to see people whom hate on him, just because he puts stuff he likes (helicopters, explosions) in films he directs, and then are somehow successful enough for him to keep working.

you know what? HELICOPTERS AND EXPLOSIONS ARE FUCKING AWESOME, and if that's what i want to watch, well, i'm glad he's here to entertain me.

yeah, trannies deuce could have used much less of the weak luv-subplot, and you know what i'd want in its place? MOAR A-10-ON-ROBOT ACTION.
okay, it was also missing A-10's with some tame f-16's instead, that's the other thing i disliked.
that one scene in the 1st one made the movie for me, and your life must be boring or insanely awesome for you not to feel similarly.

 

[Daedalus1942]

At last, I know. I have always sort of known, but until recently I couldn't articulate it with anything more beyond capital letters and flying spit. Ok, except for the obnoxiousness of the odious little turd, his absurdly over-inflated ego, and his pencant for wearing medalions, and everything, there is something else.

People say "Ok, he's no artist but at least he's good with explosions and heroes saving the day and stuff!"

He isn't. In fact, I think these things, what are considered his, for want of a better word, strengths, are his biggest weaknesses. In fact, when it comes to explosions and heroes saving the day, he sucks diarrhetic donkey shit from a donkey that is suffering from dysentery. With a tapeworm in it.

Last week I developed food poisoning, which gave me the marvelous opportunty to lie in bed for a few days, all day long, feeling sorry for myself and watching telly. During this superb week watched a docu-drama called "Krakatoa: The Last Days [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa_-_The_Last_Days]." Given that this is about the erruption of Krakatoa - the biggest explosion in recorded human history, one would think that this kind of thing is right up Bays very smelly and rat-infested alley. One scene in particular sums up everything that Michael Bay is theoretically not shit at. Big explosion? Check. Hero saving the day? Check. Comely lass involved being brave? Check. Here it is.


For those with youtube phobias, the collapse of the volcano had caused a tsunami. This wave headed towards the ship, Governor General Loudon, captained by one Johan Lindeman. Because he was in shallow water, the only way to save the ship from being destroyed was to turn it straight at the wave and try to steam over it (if anyone wonders why, stick a gravy boat in your tub and make a big wave at it from the front and then from the side.) So, after making a heroic speech below deck to try to explain the situation to the passengers, he gets topside and takes the ship over the wave, with broken glass and hot water flying into his face.

The scene seems set up for a Michael Bay, but look at how it was made. No bombastic music, no massive chin, no comic quip, no helicopters with the inevitably super-hard US marines abseiling down black ropes on their enormous all-American todgers. Not even a late-teenage girl wearing a bit of dental floss suggestively leaning over a motorcycle. Just the characers, and the scene - a pretty average guy who was in a terrible situation and was doing his best to keep himself and everyone else alive. It is this kind of thing which made the scene, which is something Bay doesn't seem to understand. A scene with characters one can relate to, along with making the danger they face seem actually dangerous and not just cartoonish, can make things far more poignant, which makes for a far better and more memorable movie.

Thoughts anyone?

After announcing the Nightmare on Elm Street, I can safely say there are three people in this world who'm I wsh people would stop funding their films.
Uwe Boll, Michael Bay and M. Night Shemaleyalan.

 

[Dogstile]

You all sicken me.

And you sicken all of us.

Fair and square.

Touche'

 

[TotallyFake]

I hate Michael Bay!

I think people are just whining cry babies.

Allot of the movies Bay makes have a weak story line, but they make it up for me most of the time with awesome action.

I mean how the HELL can you say he sucks at that to? Have you seen Transformers 2? I mean yea sure the story was crap and the actors weren't exactly awesome but the movie still had some of the greatest CGI action i had ever seen in a movie. That doesn't mean you have to like the movie, but at least give it some credit for what it does right.

Michael Bay is the new Halo, because everybody appear to bash him even for reasons that don't make sense.

Some people just don't like the idea of stupid fun or good times. Everything has to be all serious. Seriously, guys, chill out, enjoy the thing for what it is: FUN.

At hardcore_gamer: Yes I've seen Transformers 2. It does nothing right. The CGI action was terrible. Everything was jump cuts, shaky cam, exTREEEEEME close ups. Sure, from a technical perspective the CGI was kinda nice, but you never properly saw it thanks to his awful camera work.

At Gmano: It's not fun. I can appreciate a silly action film, something like Independence Day, Shooter, Advent Children and the like. Michael Bay does not make silly films. He makes stupid films. It's like comparing Dude, Where's My Car? to Bill and Ted. One is a genuine comedy, with jokes and actual humour. The other is a pair of idiots twatting around. In the idea of fairness I'll let you decide which is which. The criticism has never been that he makes dumb action films. The criticism is that he makes BAD dumb action films.

 

[Doug]

However every now and then there is a glimer of good movie within his madness.
(skip to 3:34)

I absolutely HATE the movie pearl harbor, but this scene where the zeros are passing by everyone gives me chills.

I think bay is great at cinematography but everything else is garbage.

Michael Bay's Pearl Habour; because apparently America win that battle but didn't notice

And yeah, Michael Bay's "EXPLOSIONS" was hilarously accurate

 

[mokes310]

I can't hate him completely, since Bad Boys 2 was a symphonic masterpiece of genius-level stupid. I mean, they threw cars at cars in that movie.

"You aint seen Bad Boys 2?"

 

[teutonicman]

I can't hate him completely, since Bad Boys 2 was a symphonic masterpiece of genius-level stupid. I mean, they threw cars at cars in that movie.

Yeah but that shit was pretty hilarious.... so what the scene when a car tied to a chain and is being swung behind a car carrier.

 

[Nwabudike Morgan]

Snip

Was not prepared for huge wall of text...

What's with the extreme stereotypes in your huge wall of text btw? I'm finding you rather insulting.

There are nerds on the internet, but not everyone on the internet is a nerd. And most nerds that are on the internet aren't completely like this. They can like things in varying degrees or not care about them at all, along with multiple, even compteting similar things, although they do have the same consuming enthusiasm for the type of thing or activity that they like. We're all game nerds, that's why we're on this forum talking about them, but almost all of us aren't like the ones I described. Which is why I post here. Shit, a lot of us are nerdy about things that aren't really traditionally nerdy things. That's what happens when you grow the fuck up.

I'm willing to bet, though, that most of us were the sad kind of nerd in the second grade. I sure as hell was. I once called a kid a retard and punched him in the gut because he told me the Ferrari F40 was better than the Lamborghini Diablo, which in retrospect, it probably was, because, as I told him, the Diablo had a V12 not a shitty V8 that needs TWO turbos to make any real power and the Diablo is not made of plastic (read:carbon fiber) and that in the F40 to open the door to get out you had to pull on this stupid shitty little string where the Diablo had doors that opened UPWARDS and because the Diablo was one mile per hour faster, which means that even though the F40 would beat it off the line the Diablo would catch up and then just bury it over a distance, which is what fucking really matters, retard, you win a race by going faster than the other car.

And the things the nerds who have grown up do have that nerd hate for they hate in a much more mature, bitter, cynical, more subdued and much less fanatical way. The thing we hate's fans are no longer "retards who fuck their mothers and should die in a fire", they're "idiots who lack taste". The fucking philistines.

Also the kids who do it these days have no idea what a console war is like. I'm a scarred veteran of the REAL console war, where the kids fighting in it would literally fight each other over it, although it was kind of quaint in how we'd call our enemies "girls" instead of "faggots". And since I want to believe that we weren't just fighting over nothing, that it wasn't us being dumbass children, I to this day believe that the Genesis can eat a dick.

I can't hate him completely, since Bad Boys 2 was a symphonic masterpiece of genius-level stupid. I mean, they threw cars at cars in that movie.

Yeah but that shit was pretty hilarious.... so what the scene when a car tied to a chain and is being swung behind a car carrier.

Best thing about Bad Boys 2: you know the giant, amazing house they blow to shit in the end? They spent several million dollars on buying it so they could shoot there, then they ACTUALLY BLEW THE FUCKING THING UP. It's really awesome in that "rock star driving a Rolls-Royce into a swimming pool" way.

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

Once in Science class we had a Sharing Circle (can't imagine anything less scientific, and no I'm not in a special class) in which we had to state our favourite movie. At least four people said Transformers 2.

On the original Transformers: Okay, the point where Shia LaBouef (not even gonna try to spell that right) says, "More than meets the eye," is slightly less forced than the closing monologue in Dark Knight, but he really needs to work on that stutter. I couldn't tell any of the giant robots apart, and Megan Fox has a really unattractive forehead which for some reason she keeps insisting to show off. Oh, and yes, Megan, you are shallow. He was just saying that you weren't to get with you. And the sad thing is: it worked.

 

[IanBrazen]

However every now and then there is a glimer of good movie within his madness.
(skip to 3:34)

I absolutely HATE the movie pearl harbor, but this scene where the zeros are passing by everyone gives me chills.

I think bay is great at cinematography but everything else is garbage.

Michael Bay's Pearl Habour; because apparently America win that battle but didn't notice

And yeah, Michael Bay's "EXPLOSIONS" was hilarously accurate

HA!
good one.
I also wanted to ask, did anyone else feel sick in transformers 2 when he kept spinning the camera in a 360 shot every 5 seconds?

 

[Tdc2182]

Do you remember the Rock? That was an awesome movie. Also Bad Boys. Another awesome movie series. He just sucks monkey dick nowdays. And you also can't blame the entire movie on one guy. He doesnt single handedly do every entire thing in his movie.( Or does he...)

 

[Doug]

However every now and then there is a glimer of good movie within his madness.
(skip to 3:34)

I absolutely HATE the movie pearl harbor, but this scene where the zeros are passing by everyone gives me chills.

I think bay is great at cinematography but everything else is garbage.

Michael Bay's Pearl Habour; because apparently America win that battle but didn't notice

And yeah, Michael Bay's "EXPLOSIONS" was hilarously accurate

HA!
good one.
I also wanted to ask, did anyone else feel sick in transformers 2 when he kept spinning the camera in a 360 shot every 5 seconds?

I can't say it did because...well, I don't hate myself enough to have my childhood memories raped by MB's Transformers, heh.

 

[Vrex360]

If Micheal Bay hadn't been involved in making 'The Island' I may actually have ended up liking it.

But the main reason I hate Michael Bay is that reportedly Scarlett Johansson wanted to go topless for the sex scene in that movie but Michael Bay refused to let her to keep the PG-13 rating. So yeah, damn you Mike Bay for pretty much destroying what could have been a major highlight in that movie.

 

[benbenthegamerman]

You all sicken me.

And you sicken all of us.

Fair and square.

Touche'

i do say good sir, shall we play a game of tiddlywinks? Do be prepared, as i shall show no mercy.

OT: micheal bay sucks. that is all.