The "Screaming Children on Mics" Argument

[Leviathan_]

Typical console user/BlOps player attitude who doesn't value teamwork at all. The reason why I switched over to PC gaming.

The elitism in this place stinks.

The "typical console user" attitude is identical to the typical PC gamer attitude. Any differences you may think you have encountered is a product of your imagination. Having played on live for a very long time, and having played on PC for even longer, sometimes even the same games on both platforms, let me tell you, there is no fucking difference.

The one key difference is that if you are playing a PC game which allows dedicated servers (most of them) the fuckwits screaming at you are more likely to get banned. If you frequent that server you wont run into them again. The amount of fuckwits screaming is the same. And its very close to ZERO.

If you ***** about little kids with mics you are clearly doing so for one of the following reasons; you need something to ***** about or you need to claim superiority of platform X because platform Z has more kids with mics.

PC gaming is where the strategy game crowd is at, who are usually more eager to use teamwork to win a game than your average cowaduuty player of which there are more of on consoles. It's not even elitism, it's just plain simple facts.

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

there are mute buttons.

In Halo2 (at least when I played it), the mute button was in the joining screen... not in game where the shouting started V_V.

Anyway, it's just easier for me to stick to PC. I can usually mute them there one way or another - PC you usually get more control, whereas on the console you're pretty much running an "OS GAME" from my point of view.

Finally MeeWee Two was bad enough with incredible imbalances making it practically useless to be a skilled player over somebody who's played for longer, and even then there are really easy noob tactics you can use to destroy even the best players. As for Black ops it's spawncamp galore. Since I don't play WW2 shooters, MW1 is the only Call of Duty game that exists for me, and it is pretty good.

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

See sometimes people use text chat too - I think killing floor has the best policy at the moment. You can individually (because it's 6 player servers) block chat, voice, z 'fast chat' key... etc etc.

 

[ryanxm]

i agree with you, there is a mute button, Use it.

i think its far more annoying when people think that EVERY kid playing a game is a screaming moron ¬_¬

 

[SovietX]

See, this is why I think kids shouldn't be allowed to play online until they are older and mature enough to be respectable online. I couldn't give a toss if my kid was playing COD or whatever, no matter the age limit (Because unlike other parents, I would be willing to teach him right from wrong and morals) My little tike can play single player games until later on.

Thats what happened with me, I lived off GTA3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Turok and Resident Evil Code Veronica when I was young. By the time I got into online gaming I knew what was annoying and what wasn't.

And that my friends, is how its done.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Either you are talking out of your arse or you are a very, very lucky person.

6 prestiges in Black Ops. 7 days played. You know how many screaming kids I have run into? Or how many squeeky voiced pre teens? About 20. Just like most other people.

TF2 on the other hand? Every second server. Maybe you frequent a specific dedicated server and any kid screaming ****** gets kicked before he can finish the word?

Sure there are squeeky voice pre-teens in TF2, but they're pretty much all polite, compared to every second person in COD, regardless of age, being a complete douchebag.

False.

Have you even played Black Ops or MW2? Or do you just assume everyone who plays that game is like that because its COD?

Let me just clarify here; I dont even play COD anymore and im not interested in defending the franchise, or its fanbase. But you arent being honest and you need a reason to claim your game is better because the other game has kids playing. Which is almost as childish as plugging in your mic and telling anyone who kills you you fucked their mother last night.

I believe you're misinterpreting my post, or not paying attention to my previous posts. So let's break down you're response.

False.

Some nice evidence you have there, just because you've had different experiences compared to me doesn't make mine not true.

Have you even played Black Ops or MW2? Or do you just assume everyone who plays that game is like that because its COD?

I regularly play COD6, if you check my steam page (available through my profile) you'll find I've logged over 200 hours on that game. Also, I don't assume, I'm recounting my experience. That experience has been every second player being a complete douchebag.

Let me just clarify here; I dont even play COD anymore and im not interested in defending the franchise, or its fanbase. But you arent being honest and you need a reason to claim your game is better because the other game has kids playing.

Where did I claim, anywhere, that one game was flat out better than the other? Where is my dishonesty? I'm merely stating that, in my experience, the community of TF2 has been magnitudes better than COD's.

Which is almost as childish as plugging in your mic and telling anyone who kills you you fucked their mother last night.

It would be, if that's what I was saying.

 

[Zeema]

I can have a wonderful time, but when I hear "12-year-old-voice" suddenly the fun drains away and I'm in a world of morons.

same here

i was talking to this guy he lives in DC and we were discussing the War in Iraq. [we were playing RDR]

kid who was eavesdropping comes on and says Racist jokes about Muslims, Americans, Russian's and pretty much any other group of people.

we left the lobby and i said what you just said.

 

[Kukakkau]

360 is worse for online FPS gaming, especially CoD - when I would play those games seriously every 2/3 matches there would be some kid shouting, swearing and accusing us of cheating because we won while he sat trying to get a chopper gunner or something.

But there is still quite a few load mouthed idiots on all platforms

Frankly I think to online game you should have to take a basic IQ test and supervised voice test before you are allowed to play online. Just think how many trolls etc would be told they are not wanted online.

 

[Vault101]

Wow the elitism is really stinking this place up.
I personally don't have a problem with screaming children, they are hilarious to annoy, and if that fails just pretend you are attracted to them. They soon shut up.

I'd rather have screaming kids on my console than the nerd population polluting pc games, playing their shitty outdated memes down the mics constantly while their lackeys applaud like a collection of retarded chimps.

Oh sorry, did I just put console players in a better light than pcs? Somebody crucify me please.

Wait what?Since when did being a nerd and spouting memes go hand in hand?From my experience mostly kids are the meme spouting machines online.
And when did this become a "Pc is better the console" thread?

That's the impression I got from reading some of these posts at what the thread was interpreted as. But to answer your question, I don't meet a lot of screaming children when I play pc games online, but the people who keep shouting "it's over 9000!" among other irritating things that only nerds would spout, so yea it's a pretty nerdy hobby. But to get this thread back on track
no screaming children don't effect my gameplay, in fact they improve it, as I said before it's hilarious to annoy them, same with any other chodey minority you come across.

you say "nerd" like its a bad thing, I dont think theres anything wrong with being a "nerd" I mean lets face it...some of just ARE (I'd rather call myself geek as I always thourght "nerd" was more the "smart/acedemic" side of things..but thats a whole other thing) I mean I would simply be lying to myself if denied being a geek/nerd...that said however one doesnt have to be "pathetic" or a loser to be considered a nerd/geek

I would probably have less of a problem with your statement if you said "Im sick of people and their stupid unfunny memes!"

but then again thats probabl just nitpicking

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Wow the elitism is really stinking this place up.
I personally don't have a problem with screaming children, they are hilarious to annoy, and if that fails just pretend you are attracted to them. They soon shut up.

I'd rather have screaming kids on my console than the nerd population polluting pc games, playing their shitty outdated memes down the mics constantly while their lackeys applaud like a collection of retarded chimps.

Wait...waitwaitwaitwaitwait!

You prefer THIS:

*pretend this is in all caps, being squealed out by a high pitched kid*: you stupid !@#$ing *insert racist comment* !@#ing *insert homophobic insult here*! Imma !@#$ing !@#$ your !@#$ing Grandma up the !@#$ing !@#$ you !@#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over this?

I got the control point! All their base are belong to us! Our skills are over nine thousand, cuz we're row row fightin' the power!

Seriously, the meme spammer might be cringe worthy, but the 12 year old who spouts non stop insults in a high pitched voice just kills the fun. I play the game to play the game, not to troll trolls.

And it's a pain to have to mute them, especially when you're playing splitscreen online, since it takes TWO people out of the action while we go and mute the guy.

 

[Cazza]

The problem is you have to mute them. One of games I play the most is last man standing. I pause for like 2 seconds to mute this little prick and get killed. Happens all the time.

 

[Sudenak]

Well, any game that has children screaming on mics immediately loses its playability for me. I understand that you can just mute people if you need to, but it's so bloody commonplace to need to mute one of the little brats that you end up needing to just mute-all and be done with it. That transforms the game from co-op to a bunch of lone ranges blowing up a bunch of enemy lone rangers.

So, while I have (watched) people play Halo and COD in dead mic silence, I'll never see the appeal of that.

So far with TF2, I've only encountered a few children, and only had to mute one. The one I muted wouldn't stop begging for an item even though no one would trade with him and everyone was pleading with him to stop talking, so we had to eventually mute him if we wanted to win. Aside from that, mic-talk is essential to get strategy going and to save someone from a Spy attack unless you have the most envious WPM rate ever.

It really does make a big difference. I don't care if they're "too young to handle this game". I do care if all they do is just spout gibberish that does nothing to help their team out. A ten year old child that is constantly screaming "fags" at the top of his underdeveloped lungs is doing nothing for anybody besides making himself feel cool for saying a naughty word without mommy catching him.

Any game that attracts enough of them where "oh, you just play with mute-all, it's easy" is either so accessible that everybody loves it or is so stupid that little kids love it. In the case of Lag Ops, I'm guessing the latter. Given how much money you have to shell out for a game like BlOps, I'm surprised that anyone would be okay with having to immediately cut out a good chunk of online co-op play strategy because of screaming kids. It'd be like saying you love going to the pool, but that you shouldn't go into the deep end because all of the children that aren't allowed to swim there yet are standing by the edge pissing into it. Just because something is common where you go, doesn't mean it's okay.

 

[blackcapedmanx]

The issue isn't merely that there are a bunch of screaming children playing console games, it's that the people in the game play like they're a bunch of screaming children. Imagine the player base for America's Army (probably the least forgiving online team shooter in history) back when it launched in 2003 who took every movement with the greatest of consideration and had to diligently work together even when mic communication wasn't anywhere near as universal as it is now. Compare to COD, where the three seconds it takes to watch the killcam after you die is usually skipped for being and unbearable separation from running randomly around a pointless and entirely non-tactical arena with a pair of sawed off shotguns hoping to happen to run into someone on the other team.

 

[Vibhor]

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

You do know Black ops is an M rated game which means no children should play it?
To put this as a real life example imagine this,
You are in a titty bar when a kid comes and start screaming that naked women are bad for health and mommy told them to not to drink or smoke.

 

[Pointer]

So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.

For a lot of reasons. First and foremost you have to listen before the mute button can even be pressed. And honestly I don't want to hear how much of a f** I am from a person who can't purchase the game legally (at least in my country).

That being said BlOps on the computer is a lot more mellow prospect for me. I have yet to experience someone yelling obscenities at me and its a comforting prospect not having to mute a score of people to be able to sit through a game in quiet. More often than not people are friendly actually and most servers have some sort of profanity filter as well as a botchecker.

 

[imperialreign]

Typical console user/BlOps player attitude who doesn't value teamwork at all. The reason why I switched over to PC gaming.

Sadly, it's amazing the difference in the types of players between the console and PC realms . . . reminds me of this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106526-PC-Gamers-Beat-Console-Crowd-to-Bad-Company-2-Vietnam-Map-Unlock

I'm not big on consoles, but I've spent quite some time around my friends who do a lot of gaming on xBox. The indifference other players have towards each other, the "every man for himself" mindset, and the immaturity simply astounds me. Even with some games that are designed around team-based play with everyone trying to function together as a whole unit (i.e. TF2), you'll find simply the opposite the majority of the time in the console community.

But, anyhow, back OT - I can't stand it, either . . . but the annoying, offensive voice speak isn't really a problem in the PC community. We occasionally get some children (both young and old), but it's enver been bad enough in any game for me to have to mute them. The majority of PC players still communicate via keyboard, anyhow, and the vast majority of all players are good sports about it all - routinely complimenting each other and simply having fun.

 

[Pointer]

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

You do know Black ops is an M rated game which means no children should play it?
To put this as a real life example imagine this,
You are in a titty bar when a kid comes and start screaming that naked women are bad for health and mommy told them to not to drink or smoke.

The ratings are in place but that doesn't stop mommy from getting her child a game, especially considering how soft an M BlOps generally is. There are some disturbing moments but I don't think that most kids are in it for the story. Besides that point in other countries besides the United States rating are different, and are often just suggestions.

And your analogy really doesn't hold water. Maybe if the kid punched you in the nuts, called you a fag, then had sex with a stripper in front of you then it would make sense.

 

[EightGaugeHippo]

Actually, in all my time online console gaming, I have maybe met, 3 maybe 4 annoying kids.

I don't get where people got this idea from? Most people don't even turn on their mics online, and when they do they're usually in a private party with their friends.

 

[soulasylum85]

i play cod all the time and fortunately i dont have to deal with screaming kids or muting people. you see xbox has this thing called a "party" where you and your friends can talk to each other in a private room while you play your game. so that ends the whole "its a pain in the ass to mute everyone" arguement. and for you ps3 users (i have one to im not putting down the ps3) you are stuck muting everyone, unfortunately sony hasnt seen the usefullness and necessity of a party chat function yet. although you could just activate your blutooth and not put it on... those things are shit for chat anyway.

 

[TheRealCJ]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

"Screaming into a headset" is not "playing".

 

[sgt. soap mctavish]

i have to deal with it everyday. It's not fun.