The stereotypical vampire?

Aloran

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Right, after attempting to read and watch twilight (I failed at both attempts, got through the first chapter of the book and about 10 mins through the film), I came to realise that the books themselves crap all over the traditional stereotype of vampires.
So, fellow escapists, I ask you a question:
what to you, defines a vampire?
 

WinkyTheGreat

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An often pale, undead person who was bit by another vampire to become one. This creature has a weakness to sunlight (sometimes deadly), need to be invited into a home in order to enter (optional), and is nearly impossible to kill (stake through the heart, dismemberment, etc all work). They do not sparkle in the sun nor do they play baseball....

Anything out of Underworld, Elder Scrolls, and the like.
 

NeW SpEcTrUM

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Anything that isn't like Bram Stoker's Dracula. I really don't like that stereotype. To me, the only /essential/ thing that must exist to define a vampire would be the thirst for blood. While it's not necessary for me, I find it important to have the avoidance of sunlight and other things. What I don't like is stuff like weaknesses to garlic, religious imagery, stakes, etc etc.

My ideal vampires exist in a world similar to what you'd find in Vampire: The Masquerade or Underworld. I also really enjoyed this fun indie movie called Lady Is A Vamp.
 

Zhalath

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Let me list off essential traits:
-bloodthirst (preferably human)
-destruction in sunlight
-fear of holy symbols
-incredible strength and speed
-undeath
-weakness to staking or decapitation then treatment of body
-maybe shapeshifting
 

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Pale, pointy teeth, bloodsucking, sexual ambiguity, hatred of running water, holy water, garlic, crosses and the sunlight (or actually UV), immortal (or very, very long lived), has a bunch of sexy brides from the neighbouring towns, kill it with decapitation and/or stake through heart, stronger than a human, sometimes shapeshifting abilities or mind control, terribly arrogant (usually the reason for a vampire's downfall)...
Hm, did I forget anything?
Oh yeah, they don't sparkle.
 

ThreeWords

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The blood thing seems compulsory, and to me, they generally need the super strength and speed. Also, the fact that you need a serious effort to even slow them down is vital, as is the idea that they don't die by normal means. They are either infected by a non lethal feeding or are born to the condition. It is incurable.

The invitation to enter is cool, but not necessary, as is the sunlight and holy symbols weaknesses, and shape shifting. They are often more intelligent than humans

Vampires should never, never glow in sunlight.
 

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Skeleon said:
Pale, pointy teeth, bloodsucking, sexual ambiguity, hatred of running water, holy water, garlic, crosses and the sunlight (or actually UV), immortal (or very, very long lived), has a bunch of sexy brides from the neighbouring towns, kill it with decapitation and/or stake through heart, stronger than a human, sometimes shapeshifting abilities or mind control, terribly arrogant (usually the reason for a vampire's downfall)...
Hm, did I forget anything?
Oh yeah, they don't sparkle.
pretty much this XD

unless the vampire is extremely camp, then he can have a few sparkles, or flared trousers. But they cant be "sparkly" :p
 

high_castle

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So much of what we consider "typical" vampire traits were invented by Hollywood, not the old myths. For instance, vampires burning in the sunlight was first seen in the film Nosferatu because the director thought it was beautiful and poetic. In Bram Stoker's original novel, Dracula was free to move about in the sunlight. He just didn't have access to all his abilities, and thus was stronger and more frightening at night. Old folklore says nothing about sunlight, either.

Personally, I'm fascinated by the commonalities within certain myths. And I like the obscure ones better than the ones Hollywood has invented. In some traditions, they can't cross flowing water, or they have to count every grain of sand thrown at them. Religious artifacts may or may not work against them. The vampire myth predates Christianity, and it should be noted that crucifixes working against them came into the folklore with the spread of religion.

The two defining traits of the vampire are a hunger for blood and rising from the dead. Both of these seem to be prerequisites in any myth. It's the thirst for blood we seem to find most compelling, as its taboo and often used as a sexual metaphor (thank you, Mr. Stoker). Originally vampires were ugly and often less intelligent than people, sometimes having no memory of being human at all. But thanks to Bela Lugosi, we now think of vampires as being extremely attractive. And as the fear of foreign men preying on our innocent young girls dissipated, vampire became more sexually ambiguous to portray fears of homosexuality and rape. Again, this is something Hollywood and pop culture have invented.

The pop view of the vampire differs wildly from the vampires of folklore. People have been playing with the myth for a long time, inventing and dropping aspects as they see fit. I think the key problem with the Twilight vampires isn't in their creation, but in their creator. A more talented writer might have been able to pull of the sparkling thing (I say maybe here, not definitely), but Meyer just doesn't have the skill to make it seem anything more than trite. What bothered me about the books (especially after my sister, 8 years older than me and normally of sound taste, recommended them heartily), is the lack of characterization. It's standard romance fare, but with the pretense of being a vampire novel. If I wanted to read trashy vampire novels, I'd read Anita Blake. ba-dum-tish
 

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Trying to pull away from Vampire stereotypes usually is bad. They can be different, but have to overall be similar. Perhaps being stereotypical but having one or two gone as they were just superstitions.
 

Internet Kraken

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Anything that sucks blood, stalks people i the night, has pale skin, and hates the sun.

Really it can qualify as a vampire so long as it doesn't glow like diamonds when exposed to sunlight.
 

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high_castle said:
So much of what we consider "typical" vampire traits were invented by Hollywood, not the old myths. For instance, vampires burning in the sunlight was first seen in the film Nosferatu because the director thought it was beautiful and poetic. In Bram Stoker's original novel, Dracula was free to move about in the sunlight. He just didn't have access to all his abilities, and thus was stronger and more frightening at night. Old folklore says nothing about sunlight, either.

Personally, I'm fascinated by the commonalities within certain myths. And I like the obscure ones better than the ones Hollywood has invented. In some traditions, they can't cross flowing water, or they have to count every grain of sand thrown at them. Religious artifacts may or may not work against them. The vampire myth predates Christianity, and it should be noted that crucifixes working against them came into the folklore with the spread of religion.

The two defining traits of the vampire are a hunger for blood and rising from the dead. Both of these seem to be prerequisites in any myth. It's the thirst for blood we seem to find most compelling, as its taboo and often used as a sexual metaphor (thank you, Mr. Stoker). Originally vampires were ugly and often less intelligent than people, sometimes having no memory of being human at all. But thanks to Bela Lugosi, we now think of vampires as being extremely attractive. And as the fear of foreign men preying on our innocent young girls dissipated, vampire became more sexually ambiguous to portray fears of homosexuality and rape. Again, this is something Hollywood and pop culture have invented.

The pop view of the vampire differs wildly from the vampires of folklore. People have been playing with the myth for a long time, inventing and dropping aspects as they see fit. I think the key problem with the Twilight vampires isn't in their creation, but in their creator. A more talented writer might have been able to pull of the sparkling thing (I say maybe here, not definitely), but Meyer just doesn't have the skill to make it seem anything more than trite. What bothered me about the books (especially after my sister, 8 years older than me and normally of sound taste, recommended them heartily), is the lack of characterization. It's standard romance fare, but with the pretense of being a vampire novel. If I wanted to read trashy vampire novels, I'd read Anita Blake. ba-dum-tish
At least Anita Blake is actually a series and has sex in it ;)

Bloodlust and undead are my defining traits for vampires.
 

Maet

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The vampires from Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel more or less define the modern image of a vampire. Some people love it, some people hate it, but when I think vampire, I think "enhanced human creatures with fangs that enjoy blood and have an unfortunate weakness to holy water, crucifixes and sunlight, but are otherwise immortal."

The perceptions of supernatural begins are always changing. I'm pretty sure that the "Buffy Vampire" isn't very similar to the "Stoker Vampire," but it was still accepted as a natural evolution of the idea. I doubt Twilight's "Sparkle Vampires" will be accepted as the next step in their ever changing look.

Edit -- I forgot something; a vampire having a "soul" is optional.
 

IamSARAhearMYgrr

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Anne Rice does a wonderful job with the many novels she writes in a series she calls the Vampire Chronicles. This is college level reading so if you are like me and could not stand the retardation that is Twilight you should probably enjoy Anne Rice.