The term "Gamer".
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I have to agree with this. This is actually what I came in here to say.SL33TBL1ND said:
As far as I'm concerned, anyone that plays games is a gamer. Some more or less than others. But those of us that are passionate about gaming, spend a significant amount of time playing games and enjoy keeping up to date with game news, I prefer to refer to as a game enthusiast. We're a type of person no different than, say, a sports enthusiast that sits in the break room discussing their favorite sports teams and their favorite players.
What the flying eff are you talking about. Calm down and breathe slowly.GunsmithKitten said:
I told you what it means to me, I am not talking about a gamers' licence.
In my book
ME BEING GERMAN SO THE DEFINITION HERE DIFFERS ANYWAYS
Now we all calm down and grab a beer and relax, maybe watch a movie, and maybe play a game, which is something, I hope, we all like here.
-I've played games on almost every gaming console since the Atari 2600.
-I've played Dungeons and Dragons ever since I could read and roll dice.
-I was a HUGE Magic: The Gathering player from Fourth Edition until the end Kamigawa.
-I had multiple Mage Knight: Apocalypse armies, with battlements, siege engines, dragons, tanks, etc.
-I am an avid fan of Warhammer 40k, and I own Eldar, Dark Eldar, Chaos, Black Templar, and Sisters of Battle armies.
-I also play Warhammer Fantasy; High Elves, of course.
-I have a small Hordes army; Legion of Everblight, Thagrosh the Prophet as caster.
-I play tons of board games, preferably Fantasy Flight ones. Twilight Imperium 3rd Ed is one of my favorites.
-My current most played games include LoL, Street Fighter 3rd Strike, Guild Wars 2 and Halo 4.
If that's not fit to be called a gamer, than I don't know what is. Not everyone that's a "gamer" has my sort of gaming tastes or background, but that doesn't mean I'm not one myself.
-I've played Dungeons and Dragons ever since I could read and roll dice.
-I was a HUGE Magic: The Gathering player from Fourth Edition until the end Kamigawa.
-I had multiple Mage Knight: Apocalypse armies, with battlements, siege engines, dragons, tanks, etc.
-I am an avid fan of Warhammer 40k, and I own Eldar, Dark Eldar, Chaos, Black Templar, and Sisters of Battle armies.
-I also play Warhammer Fantasy; High Elves, of course.
-I have a small Hordes army; Legion of Everblight, Thagrosh the Prophet as caster.
-I play tons of board games, preferably Fantasy Flight ones. Twilight Imperium 3rd Ed is one of my favorites.
-My current most played games include LoL, Street Fighter 3rd Strike, Guild Wars 2 and Halo 4.
If that's not fit to be called a gamer, than I don't know what is. Not everyone that's a "gamer" has my sort of gaming tastes or background, but that doesn't mean I'm not one myself.
i would call myself a gamer, albeit a more casual one. A lot of my free time is spent on games, but im quite happy to do other stuff like go shooting or parties and nights out and stuff. But i predominantly game. I have nothing against the term 'gamer' in itself, but it does mean different things to different people - as a rule of thumb, actual gamers just see it as people who like to play games, whereas the rest of the population see it as a much more life-consuming hobby. Thats very vague, and theres a lot of exceptions, but its mostly right, and i cant say i like the non-gamer view very much. the fact that its incorrect aside, that view very much discourages me from talking about gaming with a lot of people (not that its all i talk about, but im learned enough in this field to not make the conversation awkward even when talking to non-gamers)
as a conversation topic, gaming is very much the same as sport, especially to people who dont know much about it, which is why i dont really like the image of your life it presents if you discuss it. When i talk to sportsmen i dont see their life entirely consumed by training and protein shakes
as a conversation topic, gaming is very much the same as sport, especially to people who dont know much about it, which is why i dont really like the image of your life it presents if you discuss it. When i talk to sportsmen i dont see their life entirely consumed by training and protein shakes
I haven't entered or read the full discussion yet, forgive me if I'm being repetitive.
I've heard plenty of people describe themselves as "reader," "film geek," "motorist," etc. So I don't see how it's particularly degrading to say "gamer." I don't agree with the whole "hardcore gamez" movement, but if you play a lot of video games, it's a perfectly accurate descriptor. I'm a gamer, a reader, an internet user, a recovering television-viewer and a guy who really likes tacos. None of these matter on the whole, but they're all perfectly accurate things to say.
I've heard plenty of people describe themselves as "reader," "film geek," "motorist," etc. So I don't see how it's particularly degrading to say "gamer." I don't agree with the whole "hardcore gamez" movement, but if you play a lot of video games, it's a perfectly accurate descriptor. I'm a gamer, a reader, an internet user, a recovering television-viewer and a guy who really likes tacos. None of these matter on the whole, but they're all perfectly accurate things to say.
this topic just popped up on another forum i go to... so i'll just quote myself:
A Gamer is anyone who plays video games. Oh but i do have a theory as to why some people feel the need to make a stricter definition and it's usually to separate themselves from people that don't play the same way they do. They believe their way is superior and deserves a better title. Thus hardcore-gamer was born. it's really stupid and shows elitism which i hate.
The type of gamer i am, i'd say retro-gamer and indie-gamer. Also a bit hardcore in terms of the difficulty i prefer, however i do not spend a lot of hours playing games so i don't meet that qualification completely. I also don't have much of a dedication to playing a game, if it annoys me or i can't beat a part after 10 tries, i usually stop playing. Maybe i'll return another day, maybe not. if i dont enjoy it, i wont play.
I'm actually pretty open minded about games, i'm not picky on what i'll try, but i am picky on what i like.
ALSO: i can understand why some people don't want to call themselves gamer at all, because of all the stereotypical traits others might associate with you if you call yourself that.
A Gamer is anyone who plays video games. Oh but i do have a theory as to why some people feel the need to make a stricter definition and it's usually to separate themselves from people that don't play the same way they do. They believe their way is superior and deserves a better title. Thus hardcore-gamer was born. it's really stupid and shows elitism which i hate.
The type of gamer i am, i'd say retro-gamer and indie-gamer. Also a bit hardcore in terms of the difficulty i prefer, however i do not spend a lot of hours playing games so i don't meet that qualification completely. I also don't have much of a dedication to playing a game, if it annoys me or i can't beat a part after 10 tries, i usually stop playing. Maybe i'll return another day, maybe not. if i dont enjoy it, i wont play.
I'm actually pretty open minded about games, i'm not picky on what i'll try, but i am picky on what i like.
ALSO: i can understand why some people don't want to call themselves gamer at all, because of all the stereotypical traits others might associate with you if you call yourself that.
"Gamer" is often used as sort of a collectivizing term, mainly by people who either want to count themselves as part as some group or who want to put others in groups.
I believe that defining yourself primarily as part of a group is weak, dangerous and quite idiotic, as is the use of terms lik "gamer" to define yourself.
I prefer being an individual. Does not mean that I'm not part of a "gamer community", but I am not a "Gamer" as in "I define myself as part of that group".
I believe that defining yourself primarily as part of a group is weak, dangerous and quite idiotic, as is the use of terms lik "gamer" to define yourself.
I prefer being an individual. Does not mean that I'm not part of a "gamer community", but I am not a "Gamer" as in "I define myself as part of that group".
More Fun To Compute said:
The things here is how casually it's thrown around, why that is, and what would classify someone as "one". I personally don't feel the need to complain about the negative connotation it brings, as it's just another label, but you aren't wrong.
I game therefore I am a Gamer. People who make that into a negative either about my hobby or my standing in society are assholes and I won't give them the time of day.
It's like if I see a guy standing on a lake fishing, I would call him a fisherman. I could say to myself:
'Well he's just out there to drink beer and get away from his nagging wife and annoying children.'
He is a fisherman, that's correct. Me making that a negative thing is just me being an asshole.
The name isn't a bad thing. It's what people associate to the name that makes it bad.
It's like if I see a guy standing on a lake fishing, I would call him a fisherman. I could say to myself:
'Well he's just out there to drink beer and get away from his nagging wife and annoying children.'
He is a fisherman, that's correct. Me making that a negative thing is just me being an asshole.
The name isn't a bad thing. It's what people associate to the name that makes it bad.
Well. yes, I can be horrible like that, lolGunsmithKitten said:Concession smugly accepted. Wasn't so hard, was it?N3squ1ck said:I'll just leave it with that:GunsmithKitten said:
We're not going to agree ever on thise -very- important thing so yeah
kthxbye
But yeah