The 'test' for psychopaths

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teisjm

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She thinks that if he came at their moms funeral he might also come at her sisters, so if her sister is killed she might see him again... thought everyone knew that one by now
 

PureChaos

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because she hopes the man will appear again at the funeral of her sister. heard that one a while ago on the radio and got it right the first time i heard it.
 

slyywiskers

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becouse its that time of the month (with the mothers death, the man not calling back and such it can be very stressfull)
 

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... I don't understand how this tests for psychopathic tendancies. There are any number of circumstances that may have led to the woman killing her sister, that have nothing to do with this man at the funeral.
 

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plastic_window said:
Allegedly, this is a test for psycopathic murderers. Yeah, you heard me. More importantly, you saw the word 'allegedly' which means that I don't know if it's true or not.

Besides, this has probably been done before. It's not a very original concept. Anyhoo, here's the question:

A woman goes to her mother's funeral and meets a man there. She dances and romances with him all night, but fails to get his name or number. The next week she kills her sister. Why?


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Again, I'm going to have to point out the word allegedly which means I don't know if this is for real or not.
She finds out that the man was her sister's husband! OMG! I would kill to have a hunky husband like that! :D
 

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WAIT! I GOT IT!
The man was the mother's husband! She had loads of brain-busting sex with her father! The father is changing the will to include more of her sister, because the woman was really bad at it! And so she kills the sister as a warning to the father!
HA HA HA! I FIGURED IT OUT!
 

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Mercanary57 said:
WAIT! I GOT IT!
The man was the mother's husband! She had loads of brain-busting sex with her father! The father is changing the will to include more of her sister, because the woman was really bad at it! And so she kills the sister as a warning to the father!
HA HA HA! I FIGURED IT OUT!
Genius. Nothing short of excellence. I want to read this book now!
 

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Rascarin said:
... I don't understand how this tests for psychopathic tendancies. There are any number of circumstances that may have led to the woman killing her sister, that have nothing to do with this man at the funeral.
A person with psycopathic personality disorder is supposed to understand the reasoning behind the woman's actions. That she kills her sister so that the man will show up to the next funeral.


This plays on the fact that psocopaths can't feel empathy, they don't consider other people's rights, or feelings, just themselves. To a psycopth, killing the sister is not wrong, it's just a tool to see the man again, a perfectly logical solution to the problem.
 

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Psychopaths (also known as sociopaths) possess the same problem-solving skills that the rest of us do, and some of them have been found to be remarkably brilliant (e.g., Ted Bundy). The assumption that all sociopaths approach problems with a "Whom can I kill to solve this?" mentality (and that sociopaths believe everyone else thinks this way as well) is an erroneous assumption based upon a false stereotype. Most sociopaths would find this question as illogical as the rest of us and ponder a whole range of other possibilities (e.g., why didn't the girl strike up a conversation with the man at the funeral, examine the condolence book afterwards, or ask her sister about him?); rather than just blurting out the purported "typical" response, many of them would provide answers just as mainstream as those offered by us "normal" folks (e.g., one sister thought the other was involved with the mystery man and killed her sibling over an imagined romantic rivalry).

In other words, this isn't a question where all the psychopaths would go one way and everybody else would go another. As a quick 'n' easy way to separate the sheep from the murderous goats, it wouldn't work. Besides, no one hypothetical is ever going to reveal the state of any person's mental condition; whole batteries of multi-item tests are needed for that. Entirely healthy folks can answer one isolated question in such a way as to indicate the possible presence of mental illness, just as severely ill folks can answer the same question in a healthy
manner.

The appeal of this one-question pop psych quiz lies in its implicit promise that by using it on your friends, you can locate the psychopaths lurking in your circle of acquaintance and thereby protect yourself from them, or perhaps in the process of your answering it you'll uncover some deep, dark secret you've been keeping from yourself. We like our world simplified whenever possible, and therefore anything that appears to be an easy-to-use tool will be quickly seized upon, even if it's flawed.

Would that it were that simple. Psychopaths are intermingled with the general population and are not that easily identified. They are best characterized as persons devoid of remorse and empathy. What sets them apart is not that these two characteristics are depressed or reduced in them, but that they are entirely missing. Psychopaths are held in check only by their fear of being caught and punished; the potential impact of their actions upon others is without relevance to them, and guilt is just a word in the dictionary to them, not something they themselves experience.

Not all psychopaths are rampaging killers, constantly on the hunt for their next victims. Many live law-abiding lives and outwardly appear quite normal. They lack a sense of right versus wrong, and they do not care about the people in their lives, not even their spouses or children; the risk to their own well-being is what keeps them, for the most part, on the straight and narrow. These are not healthy individuals to become involved with, but on the other hand, they are not necessarily mere heartbeats away from taking up the nearest hatchet and laying waste to the steno pool just because it's Tuesday.

A psychopath might think to murder her sister after their mother's death, but the motivation would more likely be one of inheritance. "Why settle for half an estate when only one person stands between me and all of it?" would be a more prevalent line of thought.
 

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I may be thinking of something else but I think that the man was death, that is why the woman could not get his name from him and why killing her sister would lead to seeing him again.
 

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Psijac, thank you. Finally someone else trying to get a little sense into the thread.

I would like to point out that psycopathic personality disorder is associated with sadism, and violent behaviour in almost all cases though, and an affinity for lying. Most psycopaths are also very charismatic, and smart, which almost makes it a desired trait in some completely law-abiding positions, they exhibit many qualities that are desired in executives, for example.
 

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hannahdonno said:
plastic_window said:
Allegedly, this is a test for psycopathic murderers. Yeah, you heard me. More importantly, you saw the word 'allegedly' which means that I don't know if it's true or not.

Besides, this has probably been done before. It's not a very original concept. Anyhoo, here's the question:

A woman goes to her mother's funeral and meets a man there. She dances and romances with him all night, but fails to get his name or number. The next week she kills her sister. Why?
Well, I say: With the loss of her mother the stability she found in family has evapourated, she has lost her female role figure in life. The fact that she does not find out more about this man shows her lack of desire to find an emotional connection with anyone at this traumatic time in her life but a physical connection which she desires. She will probably blame her mother for the emotion she is feeling at this time, and seeing the connection between her mother and sister (older sister maybe, so a strong female role model) causes her to find her as a suitable outlet for the guilt/betrayal she is feeling from the death of her mother.

ANALYSE ME.
I've analyzed you, and come to this conclusion: I love you.
 

Daye.04

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Hum ... guess I*m totally normal then. I guessed that the guy was he sisters husband, and she had to kill her sister in order to get him. How is that not a as psychotic train of thoughts?

megapenguinx said:
This is like the other test:
You have a bathtub full of water and you have a spoon, a cup, and a ladle.
Which would you use to get the water out?
I said cup.
Now give us teh Psyco-answerz! =P

psijac said:
*snip*

In other words, this isn't a question where all the psychopaths would go one way and everybody else would go another. As a quick 'n' easy way to separate the sheep from the murderous goats, it wouldn't work. Besides, no one hypothetical is ever going to reveal the state of any person's mental condition; whole batteries of multi-item tests are needed for that. Entirely healthy folks can answer one isolated question in such a way as to indicate the possible presence of mental illness, just as severely ill folks can answer the same question in a healthy
manner.

The appeal of this one-question pop psych quiz lies in its implicit promise that by using it on your friends, you can locate the psychopaths lurking in your circle of acquaintance and thereby protect yourself from them, or perhaps in the process of your answering it you'll uncover some deep, dark secret you've been keeping from yourself. We like our world simplified whenever possible, and therefore anything that appears to be an easy-to-use tool will be quickly seized upon, even if it's flawed.

(...)

Not all psychopaths are rampaging killers, constantly on the hunt for their next victims. Many live law-abiding lives and outwardly appear quite normal. They lack a sense of right versus wrong, and they do not care about the people in their lives, not even their spouses or children; the risk to their own well-being is what keeps them, for the most part, on the straight and narrow. These are not healthy individuals to become involved with, but on the other hand, they are not necessarily mere heartbeats away from taking up the nearest hatchet and laying waste to the steno pool just because it's Tuesday.(...)
Here we were all having fun, joking around. And then you come here defining it? =P
But thanks for the essay, though. It was really interesting read.

But not neccessairly that they have to kill someone. I mean they can think if they just put him in a spot where he is damaged or just being treated as less, in order to promote their own goals. That's still rather psychotic, right?

I strongly doubt this question alone is for defining people mental state, all by its self. I mean it's more likely that it is somewhat a factor. Like answer a psycothic answer to these three questions, and we'll grant you the option of being checked for psycothic mentality.
Like a pinpointer. If you answer "the correct" answer, you do in fact have a reletively strange train of thoughts. ANd that might be like .. The basics of figuring out who might be psycothic, right?

As I said above. I agree. It says nowhere that psychotics have to be rampaging killers. They can very well be people who places other peoples feelings/wellbeing below their own goals.
 

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SODAssault said:
hannahdonno said:
plastic_window said:
Allegedly, this is a test for psycopathic murderers. Yeah, you heard me. More importantly, you saw the word 'allegedly' which means that I don't know if it's true or not.

Besides, this has probably been done before. It's not a very original concept. Anyhoo, here's the question:

A woman goes to her mother's funeral and meets a man there. She dances and romances with him all night, but fails to get his name or number. The next week she kills her sister. Why?
Well, I say: With the loss of her mother the stability she found in family has evapourated, she has lost her female role figure in life. The fact that she does not find out more about this man shows her lack of desire to find an emotional connection with anyone at this traumatic time in her life but a physical connection which she desires. She will probably blame her mother for the emotion she is feeling at this time, and seeing the connection between her mother and sister (older sister maybe, so a strong female role model) causes her to find her as a suitable outlet for the guilt/betrayal she is feeling from the death of her mother.

ANALYSE ME.
I've analyzed you, and come to this conclusion: I love you.
Haha, bless you. And why would that be?
 

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hannahdonno said:
SODAssault said:
hannahdonno said:
plastic_window said:
Allegedly, this is a test for psycopathic murderers. Yeah, you heard me. More importantly, you saw the word 'allegedly' which means that I don't know if it's true or not.

Besides, this has probably been done before. It's not a very original concept. Anyhoo, here's the question:

A woman goes to her mother's funeral and meets a man there. She dances and romances with him all night, but fails to get his name or number. The next week she kills her sister. Why?
Well, I say: With the loss of her mother the stability she found in family has evapourated, she has lost her female role figure in life. The fact that she does not find out more about this man shows her lack of desire to find an emotional connection with anyone at this traumatic time in her life but a physical connection which she desires. She will probably blame her mother for the emotion she is feeling at this time, and seeing the connection between her mother and sister (older sister maybe, so a strong female role model) causes her to find her as a suitable outlet for the guilt/betrayal she is feeling from the death of her mother.

ANALYSE ME.
I've analyzed you, and come to this conclusion: I love you.
Haha, bless you. And why would that be?
You are the only other person I've seen that goes into such insane depth and detail.