The Tom Clancys HAWX demo

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bjj hero

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In general I loved the demo. 2 Big niggles though...

First the terrible camera when the pilot assist is turned off. Its set at a fixed position about a mile outside of your plane with no way to move or change it. HUGE oversight. If you dont use it you cant use any of the more acrobatic msnouvers

Second and less of a niggle. Whats with a plane carrying hundreds of missles? way too much ammo, a massively improbable amount of ammo.

Whats everyone elses thoughts?
 

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I wanted to play this demo but Xbox live won't let me download it since I've still got a child account. Fucking bastards. So I'm looking forward to seeing what other people have to say about it. I want it to be good because I need another flight sim now that the Ace Combat series got intolerably Japanese and reminded me too much of a JRPG so that I can't stand to even watch the cutscenes.

And I was nervous about that camera view when the assist is turned off, sucks that it's as bad as it looked. Hopefully they'll change it. And about the shitloads of ammo, yes it's unrealistic (which is something that usually bothers me) but it's necessary for a game like this. What kind of game would it be if you went on realistic sorties consisting of going up, firing a few missles at targets from beyond visual range, and landing again? You've gotta have plenty to do on missions.
 

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When did the HAWX demo come out? Is it on Live?

Anywho, I played it at PAX, it's pretty fun, there was an emeny who just wouldn't die, and that pissed me off, but otherwise it was good fun.
 

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I was not very optimistic about this game until I played the demo, and now I'm really excited for it... I thought it was great fun despite the couple of issues the OP brought up... the co-op looks like fun, too... I'll probably be picking this title up now.

EDIT: Stupid, stupid name for a game, though.... what the hell were they thinking...?
 

bjj hero

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HAWX is on live. I did like the level up system, after enough xp you level up and can use new planes. I wonder if they will have perks (tighter turning circle, quicker climb rate?) and how much variation there will be on ammunition.

The camera is just awfuul though.

Niggle must be a midlands thing...
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Syphonz said:
I've never heard the term 'niggle' in my life..
It's my new favorite word.
I'm pretty sure I have, by little old british ladies, I think its a plant... huhge oversite having flying plants in their game.

Tell me OP, have you emailed Ubisoft about these "niggles"
 

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ElephantGuts said:
And I was nervous about that camera view when the assist is turned off, sucks that it's as bad as it looked. Hopefully they'll change it. And about the shitloads of ammo, yes it's unrealistic (which is something that usually bothers me) but it's necessary for a game like this. "What kind of game would it be if you went on realistic sorties consisting of going up, firing a few missles at targets from beyond visual range, and landing again?" You've gotta have plenty to do on missions.
A PC game, exhibit A) A10 Cuba

greatest flight game ever, tough as nails, you have to even taxi the plane before you get to the runway!, awesome with the saitek cougar (which is based off F16 controls) http://www.thecomputershow.com/computershow/reviews/a-10cuba.htm
 

bjj hero

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Ubi are famous for ignoring the community, check the endwar forums for evidence. If its not changed on launch Ill vote with my feet and not buy it.
 

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Whats the in cockpit view like?
Can you move your view inside the cockpit and are the dials etc working?

I cant play these games in 3rd person.

I liked the ace combat games but cant stand the storys / cut scenes.
 

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ColdStorage said:
TsunamiWombat said:
Syphonz said:
I've never heard the term 'niggle' in my life..
It's my new favorite word.
I'm pretty sure I have, by little old british ladies, I think its a plant... huhge oversite having flying plants in their game.

Tell me OP, have you emailed Ubisoft about these "niggles"
I hear this term all the time, haven't you ever had a 'niggling feeling'? (i.e. your brain trying to make you remember something)

(Oh and HAWX is kinda ok)
 

bjj hero

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oAmadeuso said:
Whats the in cockpit view like?
Can you move your view inside the cockpit and are the dials etc working?

I cant play these games in 3rd person.

I liked the ace combat games but cant stand the storys / cut scenes.
The cockpit looks good, from someone whos never sat in a fighter jets cockpit. The L stick flies the plane and the right lets you look around from inside the cockpit. I didnt notice the dials working, I think its all on the HUD.

Unfortunately You cant throw the crazy moves unless you swith the pilot assist off which throws your view out of the plane to a fixed point miles away. Meh...
 

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bjj hero said:
Second and less of a niggle. Whats with a plane carrying hundreds of missles? way too much ammo, a massively improbable amount of ammo.
That's the problem I have with most console flight sims/fighters, way too many weapons. I love it when you have 8 or so missles and you must, I repeat, YOU MUST use them wisely!
 

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bjj hero said:
Second and less of a niggle. Whats with a plane carrying hundreds of missles? way too much ammo, a massively improbable amount of ammo.

Whats everyone elses thoughts?
Sounds less like a simulationist game and more like an arcade game. Wow been a while since I've used that term to refer to a console game.
 

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bjj hero said:
oAmadeuso said:
Whats the in cockpit view like?
Can you move your view inside the cockpit and are the dials etc working?

I cant play these games in 3rd person.

I liked the ace combat games but cant stand the storys / cut scenes.
The cockpit looks good, from someone whos never sat in a fighter jets cockpit. The L stick flies the plane and the right lets you look around from inside the cockpit. I didnt notice the dials working, I think its all on the HUD.

Unfortunately You cant throw the crazy moves unless you swith the pilot assist off which throws your view out of the plane to a fixed point miles away. Meh...
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Crap... that would be a deal breaker for me.
 

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I was really rather fond of "OFF" mode. It's cool, and lets you play seeing your plane, and your environment and lets you see how badass you are when you dodge a missile. The thing I don't like about it is that it can get a bit confusing and it's finicky as hell about letting you target your enemies, preferring to cycle between the few closest units, forcing you to pop into Assistance mode to get a lock on an objective enemy, then pop back out and go bring the painful destruction. The one thing I didn't like was having to listen to the annoying ground commander ***** about you only blowing up half of the invasion fleet in four seconds, while the other fleet on the other side of the map is landing and spewing tanks all over the place, only to be reminded by your commander that you should go and help them. Likewise, since your teammates are covered in facemasks, I have no idea who anyone is.

Overall it's a bunch of fun and especially good when accompanied by "Highway to the Danger Zone". As are all fighter jet piloting games should.
 

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It was ok but I'm not really into realistic flight games. My biggest problem was the second mission. It started out fine but then they throw a crap ton of enemies everywhere, some **** yacking in my ear something about bombers (by the time I figured it out it was too late) and all kinds of other crap going on. I mean wtf? This is supposed to be a demo (and I assume one of the early stages) so cut me a little slack!