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Doug

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Oh, now that you have Rome, MOD THAT SHIT UP!

Seriously though, Rome's mods are incredible and make the thing feel like an entire new game.

Also, I'm surprised how early pre-purchases are available for Empire. I mean, it comes out in February.
Indeed? Which mod in particular were you thinking of? Or mods?

And yeah, I was somewhat surprised to see it on steam so early, but I suppose Creative aren't as anal about it as EA, or the like.
 

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I love the total war game although I felt the MTW2 expansion was pretty poor work for fine developers. Anyway, in EMPIRE TOTAL WAR (it deserves the capitals) I just hope they get guns and ships right. The MTW2 guns were okay but weren't that useful unless your strategy was based on them. And the navel battles have the developers in uncharted waters (teehehehe) in terms of game design. Hopefully there won't be an easy way to win nor ruin the chance of heroic victories.
 

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A cathedral a town keeps heretics away. If you don't have any priests in places where they can go rogue, you don't get heretics. Just stuff 10 of them in your conquering army for fast conversion, they can't rebel that way.

What's far worse imo, are the inquisitors. They pop up everywhere and kill kings and cardinals alike with hardly any chance of failing. Yay for muslim factions. Naffatuns and Janisaries aren't bad either.
 

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Definitly looking forward to Empire. Hope there will be dragooners in it, would be awesome.

My highest wish is that they would team up with Games Workshop, and make Warhammer: Total War. Seriously, it would be a perfect setting for a Total War game, and the realtime battles would be every warhammer fans dream come true. A World War: Total War would be nice too, but it would probably be too controversial, considering you have to deal with relativly modern politics too.
 

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Doug said:
xitel said:
I actually had a class in High School where we used Rome: TW to simulate ancient battles. It was great.
Sweeeet! I know they did it for a TV show or 2 over here (UK), although one of them was abit of a flop (Time Commanders) and the other was for the discovery channel.
I loved time commanders... And they cut it...
 

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Maybe Im lazy, but maybe less busy work with armies and cities because you get to a point where your empire starts getting so massive its hard to handle. I think they are dealing with this problem by having troops spawn or be built within armies commanded by generals. Also looks like tech isnt just based on each city, that there is a tech advancement that does your whole empire. So develop (A) troop, you can build (A) troops anywhere within your empire, not just one city.
 

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Doug said:
xitel said:
I actually had a class in High School where we used Rome: TW to simulate ancient battles. It was great.
Sweeeet! I know they did it for a TV show or 2 over here (UK), although one of them was abit of a flop (Time Commanders) and the other was for the discovery channel.
I Loved time commanders. At the time I was playing Mediaeval: Total War on a screen with only 16-bit colour depth, so all the writing was illegible, so Rome seemed like the bee's knees.
 

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I absolutely LOVE Total War, but the only one that'll run properly on my computer with its current video card is Shogun Total War. (I just about wet my pants when I saw there were geisha in that game, historically inaccurate as they may be...) My brother has all of the TW games, so he usually lets me play them on his computer. I love the music in Medieval and the beautiful graphics; they were nice touches. I also like that the later games have more civilizations for you to play as.

I love civilization games in general, but my brother is a thousand times better than I am at the war part, LOL! I always just want it to auto-decide, because otherwise, I screw everything up. =X

Speaking of my brother: he's really excited for Colonial (?) Total War, because he's a huge history nerd. Does anybody know when that game is coming out, and what stores I selling it? I want to pre-order it for him for Christmas, but I can't find it anywhere. =/
 

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Kragey said:
I absolutely LOVE Total War, but the only one that'll run properly on my computer with its current video card is Shogun Total War. (I just about wet my pants when I saw there were geisha in that game, historically inaccurate as they may be...) My brother has all of the TW games, so he usually lets me play them on his computer. I love the music in Medieval and the beautiful graphics; they were nice touches. I also like that the later games have more civilizations for you to play as.

I love civilization games in general, but my brother is a thousand times better than I am at the war part, LOL! I always just want it to auto-decide, because otherwise, I screw everything up. =X

Speaking of my brother: he's really excited for Colonial (?) Total War, because he's a huge history nerd. Does anybody know when that game is coming out, and what stores I selling it? I want to pre-order it for him for Christmas, but I can't find it anywhere. =/

Steam is where you can per order it.
For Download, its coming out Feb 6.
 

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Hevoo said:
Steam is where you can per order it.
For Download, its coming out Feb 6.
Thanks! Now that I know what the damn thing is actually CALLED--Empire--I'll get right on pre-ordering it.
 

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Definitely looking forward to Empire. It's hard to think where Creative Assembly can go after this game, though. Not only are they running out of eras to host Total War in, the 18th/19th centuries seems to be the best setting for the series.
Oh, should also mention I'm a big fan, though a relative newbie in the series. Played the demo of Rome so many years ago, but the only whole game I've played so far is Medieval 2. I think although the AI was definitely... lacking; the feel and structure of the game was very well-done.
 

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Modern: Total War isn't total war and will never work, nor feel like the old games.

And they're all awesome.
 

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Zani said:
Modern: Total War isn't total war and will never work, nor feel like the old games.

And they're all awesome.
Maybe after Empire they will make Shogun 2?

But I still wish they make some kind of WW1:TW just to be diferent of other 20th/21st Century RTS games. ^^
 

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Wasder said:
Yay! I'm the only person here who seems to love M2TW! Damn I love that game.
Nah, it's my favorite game of the series too. :D

And oliveira8, I hope they will make a WW1 total war game, but it will be hard to pull it off and not destroy the franchise.
 

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Doug said:
Anyway, I loaded up Rome: TW again for the first time since before Medieval 2: TW (the current top end of the series) and I was amazed at how primitive Rome already seemed in comparison to Medieval 2. This reminded me that the Total War series has improved beyond graphics and theme over the series.

So, the point of this thread is to see who likes/dislikes the series, why, and for the fans, what you hope for the next game, Empire: Total war (I'm hoping 'Modern: Total War' comes next ;))
Primitive in what sense? Besides the graphics of course. Medieval II is essentially a souped up Rome. As for "Modern" Total War, it's been pretty much established over at the official forums that it just wouldn't work however...

Zani said:
Modern: Total War isn't total war and will never work, nor feel like the old games.
I took an official survey recently. Sega listed four possible scenarios for the next Total War game. Feudal Japan, Warring States China, Rome and World War I.

Wasder said:
Yay! I'm the only person here who seems to love M2TW! Damn I love that game.
M2 is also my favorite :D

Empire Total War sadly, I'm not that into it. Musket and ship battles ehhh... just really isn't my thing. I'd definitely try it out at some point but I'm not foaming at the mouth unlike the previous times. In terms of improvements, useful diplomacy would be nice.
 

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Total War is one of my favorite series of games, and I've loved each and every installment. Rome I think was my favorite, and I think that was simply because of the staggering variation between the different factions. Sure, those differences always existed but there was alwas a stark contrast between playing as the Romans, with their flexible and powerful infantry, more than adequate archer/artillery support and above average calvary and the greeks with the nearly impenetrable and utterly inflexible hoplite formations. The style of play that is fostered was so radically different. I never saw a reason NOT to press the attack as the romans, unless dramatically outnumbered. With the greeks, there is a constant struggle to make sure the pointy ends of the spear are constantly facing the enemy line, leading to much micromanagement of formations and often, little forward progress.

Medieval 2 desperately tried to steal the spotlight though. It just seemed like, for much of the game, most of the armies had a very similar formula. Enough infantry to hold the enemy off your archers, and enough calvary to ravage the flanks of the opponents formation. Often, the key seemed to revolve around simply having more calvary (or better calvary) than the opposition.
 

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Zani said:
Wasder said:
Yay! I'm the only person here who seems to love M2TW! Damn I love that game.
Nah, it's my favorite game of the series too. :D

And oliveira8, I hope they will make a WW1 total war game, but it will be hard to pull it off and not destroy the franchise.
WW1 rts is very complicated to do thats true, mainly cause most of the WW1 was set inside trenches and shelling the enemys trench till some mad General said:"Time to go over the trenches boys!". While the RTS side of the game might become a bit dull, the turn base side would gain advantage of the trench system like: keeping the morale up, diseases and other stuff.

And they can always twist somethings like covering the time betewen 1900-2000 but thats already asking too much. :p