The Troubles

[Thamous]

I was thinking, that a great setting for a game would be the The Troubles of Northern Ireland, or for that matter any time of immense civil conflict. I think it would be a good break from the alien planets and the middle east, and would also afford many new game play mechanics. Thoughts?

 

[madcap2112]

Interesting idea, though it might be a hard sell in that area. Still sort of a sore spot over there, I would think.

 

[Thamous]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

I had the same concern, but you never know, I doesn't have to be a particular area, simply a town almost anybody can identify with and can relate to, which in my opinion would give a more personal feeling.

 

[LordGarbageMan]

It would be interesting, and I think it would be a big hit if in the right hands.

 

[IrishBerserker]

The war in Ireland is still technically there its just under the surface. Theres even the looming threat of it bursting to the surface.

There are still people around who fought and for most Irish we still have the desire to get the Brits out. So it'd be a pretty bad idea (same with most other "civil" conflicts)

No matter what, a game like that would just piss off a lot of people who you really shouldn't be pissed off. Also it probably would be inaccurate and/or biased.

 

[Smitty of the Tolchocks]

I don't think this would sell if the protagonist were from one side vs the other,most likely it would be a local cop.It almost certainly wouldn't be a game where you played as Lenny Murphy or some other nut like him(GTA Ulster),.however stopping him and Moore and their gang(not the UVF as a whole,just Murphy's and Moore's gang)would make a likely scenario for a group of missions.

 

[thiosk]

I would rather to with "the troubles with tribbles" game

 

[Thamous]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

Right, the IRA is too soon, but killing Middle Eastern terrorists isn't?

Well, people don't identify well with middle eastern terrorist as they do with your average Joe just trying to make it through awful times.

 

[quiet_samurai]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

Right, the IRA is too soon, but killing Middle Eastern terrorists isn't?

You're technically right about that. But killing terrorists is kind of the USA's bread and butter at the moment, and being involved in a civil conflict amongst people involving the UK isn't really something most Americans would enjoy taking part of. The culture is just to easy to relate to as compared to radical Islamics.

 

[Thamous]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

Right, the IRA is too soon, but killing Middle Eastern terrorists isn't?

Well, people don't identify well with middle eastern terrorist as they do with your average Joe just trying to make it through awful times.

Terrorists are terrorists. It is not socially acceptable to use violence and terror to get your way, you need to use the way we all use, democracy, lobbying and protesting.

...ok?I don't see what that has to do with anything. I was pointing out that people can't relate to a terrorist as well as they do a person trying to simply make it through the day.

 

[Thamous]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

Right, the IRA is too soon, but killing Middle Eastern terrorists isn't?

Well, people don't identify well with middle eastern terrorist as they do with your average Joe just trying to make it through awful times.

Terrorists are terrorists. It is not socially acceptable to use violence and terror to get your way, you need to use the way we all use, democracy, lobbying and protesting.

...ok?I don't see what that has to do with anything. I was pointing out that people can't relate to a terrorist as well as they do a person trying to simply make it through the day.

I was trying to point out how hypocritical it is to consider the IRA better than any other terrorist organizations. Maybe I misinterpreted your post.

No its my bad, I didn't really notice the IRA in their, so yes you would be right.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

I'd play it as long as it's historically accurate, and if it's fun of course.
Most gamers are too, i don't know to say this...narrow minded?
They wouldn't be able to grasp a new type of game. They'd expect either an Assassin's creed style game or a Halo style game.
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Good luck wooing the fans out there to try something *GASP* new.

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Too soon, i pitched this idea on a thread a while back and i got the same response. It would be interesting, but its still too soon.

Right, the IRA is too soon, but killing Middle Eastern terrorists isn't?

It's not, the thing is, if your playing a game as the IRA, you'd be stuck fighting fairly modern British soldiers. For some reason I can see English gamers getting into that.

 

[MajoraPersona]

Sure, why not? It'd be fun to get to liberate the north...

Oh, or are you one of THEM? Bastards want to kill good, decent, honest folk who just want their homeland back?

Troubles ain't over, not 'till Ireland's free.

Though, of course, the PIRA went a little overboard.

 

[IrishBerserker]

I'd play it as long as it's historically accurate, and if it's fun of course.
Most gamers are too, i don't know to say this...narrow minded?
They wouldn't be able to grasp a new type of game. They'd expect either an Assassin's creed style game or a Halo style game.
-_-
Good luck wooing the fans out there to try something *GASP* new.

It wouldn't be fun. It'd involve the the oppresion and murder of Irish people. as well as British soldiers who probably didn't want to be part of the fight.

 

[Thamous]

Sure, why not? It'd be fun to get to liberate the north...

Oh, or are you one of THEM? Bastards want to kill good, decent, honest folk who just want their homeland back?

Troubles ain't over, not 'till Ireland's free.

Though, of course, the PIRA went a little overboard.

No, most Americans are not one of THEM.

 

[Thamous]

I'd play it as long as it's historically accurate, and if it's fun of course.quote]

It wouldn't be fun. It'd involve the the oppresion and murder of Irish people. as well as British soldiers who probably didn't want to be part of the fight.

Like I said, I doesn't have to be Ireland, that was simply the best example I could think of.

 

[IrishBerserker]

I'd play it as long as it's historically accurate, and if it's fun of course.quote]

It wouldn't be fun. It'd involve the the oppresion and murder of Irish people. as well as British soldiers who probably didn't want to be part of the fight.

Like I said, I doesn't have to be Ireland, that was simply the best example I could think of.

I understand that, but it'd be pretty much the same given any conflict of this nature.

 

[Thamous]

I'd play it as long as it's historically accurate, and if it's fun of course.quote]

It wouldn't be fun. It'd involve the the oppresion and murder of Irish people. as well as British soldiers who probably didn't want to be part of the fight.

Like I said, I doesn't have to be Ireland, that was simply the best example I could think of.

I understand that, but it'd be pretty much the same given any conflict of this nature.

Perhaps, but I think when its not your home town, our anybody's for that matter, you can understand whats going one and enjoy it without seeing you and your neighbors house being burned down and because of that image being disgusted.

 

[MajoraPersona]

Sure, why not? It'd be fun to get to liberate the north...

Oh, or are you one of THEM? Bastards want to kill good, decent, honest folk who just want their homeland back?

Troubles ain't over, not 'till Ireland's free.

Though, of course, the PIRA went a little overboard.

No, most Americans are not one of THEM.

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Well, this is awkward now. Half of me wants to stop here, and half of me wants to rant about how wrong that is on several levels. Sure, there was that Revolution a couple centuries ago, but...

Human beings have natural instincts for both kindness and destruction. The instinct to protect one's own and the instinct to eliminate others is integral amongst social animals. As society grows larger, the laws we put in place exist to regulate the group precisely because of these instincts. That description I put up there applies to many people; assuming most Americans are not fitting that description upsets me.

Though, in context, they are not, and I'm more prone to ranting than anything else, especially when the Troubles are brought up.